G-pa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 AWOL - for the summer, wtf! newbies get founder access, steam wtf! I paid up front for this? I fly full contact!
dburne Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) Yes - please - keep working on it. RoF should have been the starting point, then improving from there - rather than working to get to that point. I don't think mine is a minority opinion on this matter. Amen to that!! I really am quite surprised, knowing how decent the ROF career was, and what we have now in the new BOS. At this point, I am not even sure I am going to give this campaign a go. Seriously, everything that has gone on here since the new update and things that have been said and done, is leaving a really bad taste in my mouth at this point for this sim. Edited October 4, 2014 by dburnette
Voidhunger Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Im really happy that you SP crowd are happy, but try too see things from the MP crowd perspective for a second, what if the devs forced you guys to go and grind on MP to get your unlocks too use in SP.... I assure you that the sp crowd are not happy 1
Dakpilot Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Perhaps I am in a minority but I enjoy both MP and SP I find it hard to fathom those who wont even TRY the SP missions am actually really enjoying some of them, sorry but I know that enjoying a flightsim is a bit odd to some around here Cheers Dakpilot 2
dburne Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) I think I am done with this one. What has happened here today is just way wrong. No, I will not be trying single player, or any play for that matter. Good luck with your decisions developers. Edited October 4, 2014 by dburnette 1
wellenbrecher Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Dak, it's about being forced to play something one has no interest in. That right there alone kills the enjoyment I might have gotten out of it if I had decided to do so on my own terms when I felt like it. And yes, if it's the only way to get full functionality out of the game it's "forcing" us. 1
Afwastus Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) At his point (after the tutorial and a number of SP missions), I am thinking that I'll just watch a movie or read a book and let the game play itself (Ground Attack Mission, Full Autopilot and x16 compression) with occasional inputs to start new missions so I can play MP at some later date. The game in general is very fun, the patches have brought many good improvements, but I just can't stomach forcing myself to run through SP missions over and over to get some unlocks. (So, I'm not saying it's all bad or trying to say that the developers are not making progress). Edited October 4, 2014 by Afwastus
kaboki Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) No, just dramatic again. no comment I assure you that the sp crowd are not happy Well why are you guys trying to convince us MP guys too go through the painstakingly campain to get our unlocks??? Or are you reallly so evil that you wanna inflict us the same pain as you go through...or maybe Dakpilot just speaks for himself:p Edited October 4, 2014 by kaboki
1./KG4_Blackwolf Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Dak, it's about being forced to play something one has no interest in. That right there alone kills the enjoyment I might have gotten out of it if I had decided to do so on my own terms when I felt like it. And yes, if it's the only way to get full functionality out of the game it's "forcing" us. Yup no interest in SP at all. Bad move on their part IMO.
kaboki Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) Perhaps I am in a minority but I enjoy both MP and SP I find it hard to fathom those who wont even TRY the SP missions am actually really enjoying some of them, sorry but I know that enjoying a flightsim is a bit odd to some around here That you enjoy it doesn't mean that everyone will enjoy it, im happy for you by all means. And yes I also enjoy flightsimming, but purely MP(except in FSX because I haven't learned enough ATC to go on VATSIM yet), because as I have said enough times already, there is zero challenge in SP for me. And I don't like being forced to play something I don't like... Edited October 4, 2014 by kaboki
Thor Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 The amount of aggression by some in here is astounding. ---- Extreme_One, you mentioned that it seems to you they haven't done any market research. I disagree. The old crowd of simmers (the one which is hugely aggravated by unlocks, it seems) doesn't represent enough of a customer base to really thrive. With only that crowd a flight sim will remain in the "barely-surviving" bracket until the sponsors pull the plug. It seems to me that 777 Studios is trying to attract new people: let's call them the Warthunder crowd to simplify it. Huge potential customer base. With BoS they want to attract the ones who have played Warthunder for a while and now want to move on, delve deeper into flightsimming, try more realism physics-wise and historically. I applaud the developers for trying something new to increase the attraction of the genre, while at the same time staying true to hi-fidelity flight simming. Their sim oozes both professionalism and a huge love for flightsimming which is quite remarkable. If they manage to bring in a new generation of simmers it will be a huge accomplishment and the salvation of the realistic combat flight sim as a genre. There is a new world of virtual reality flightsimming just around the corner, with Oculus Rift etc, and that together with a sleek, bug-free, smooth-functioning, modern-looking sim may just bring nirvana to simmers and developers alike. BoS is our best bet for that and it's a great bet as well, because of the dedicated and talented team working on it. ---- Oh, and BTW, Stalin wasn't Russian. ---- Yeah, he was Georgian!
G-pa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Can I have my money back this is not what I sighed up for & in this economy my girlfriend really wants it?
URUAker Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 So good news about the campaing, but the best news to me is that some people reports better performance. Bad performance on my old rig is what has kept me away from BOS for months, and teh inhabilty to custom setting th graphic options like i do in other games to squeezee every fps i can. I hope the campaign is engaging. And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DEVS GIVE US CUSTOM GRAPHICS SETTINGS BACK!!! I play ROF and CLOD very smooth but BOS turns to a slideshow wit more than 3 planes near by!!!
kaboki Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DEVS GIVE US CUSTOM GRAPHICS SETTINGS BACK!!! I play ROF and CLOD very smooth but BOS turns to a slideshow wit more than 3 planes near by!!! Yeah, please open up the graphic settings and let us who never had struggles with performance turn up the ridicilous low terrain LOD distance...another thing that annoys me with this sim. And why do we have to live in the "dark ages" running on DX9? Isn't it time for flightsims to move on into the future and support DX11....? Edited October 4, 2014 by kaboki
Thor Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 There are smoke grenades. L2A2,much more fun! I once stained a nasty neighbours precious lawn with an orange smoke once, but its a long story.......!
G-pa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 EDITED SWEAR WORD were are the original founders we shouldn't have to unlock anything? EDITED BY FSM
Chuck_Owl Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) @Belmont: Brilliant! You should make a movie about it before Peter Jackson makes a 3-part-prequel-movie about it Y'a pas à dire... j'me suis poilé solide sur celle-là. Edited October 4, 2014 by 71st_AH_Chuck
KodiakJac Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 The SP guys don't like grinding unlocks any more than the MP guys. We both play the same game except the MP guys fly against human opponents and the SP guys against AI opponents. Beyond that we're all flying around shooting things up. I don't think either group likes the unlock "storyline" behind their gaming. You should see all the SP guys howling on SimHQ about it. The XP grinding gets in the way of everybody's immersion, not just the MP guys. As an SP player what I worry about more is what will I do when the short term grinding is over...play a bunch of disconnected random campaign missions? No historic squads to join, no pilot career to follow? SP needs a huge amount of attention by 1CGS after release. Its not like SP players move on to MP servers. Its usually not a progression thing. The content pipeline looks mighty bleak for SP players right now. For MP players the grinding is a small hurdle on the road to the promised land
Leaf Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 What's keeping my hopes up right now is the knowledge that way back in '09, RoF wasn't perfect either. Now it's the best WW1 sim there is. I'm sure BoS will be the same, given time. And money.
6S.Insuber Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Chuck, your dropbox tutorials are no longer available ... do something please! :-)
Zak Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Can I have my money back this is not what I sighed up for & in this economy my girlfriend really wants it? Talk to the customer service for the answer, please. The link is in your profile. And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DEVS GIVE US CUSTOM GRAPHICS SETTINGS BACK!!! I play ROF and CLOD very smooth but BOS turns to a slideshow wit more than 3 planes near by!!! I'm afraid this is not going to happen, also 3 planes turning game into a slideshow are poorly related to graphics, it's about optimization which is WIP. bullshit were are the original founders we shouldn't have to unlock anything? Everyone's equal except the bonuses that Founders were give. ALL unlocks is not what they were given.
Jade_Monkey Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Can I have my money back this is not what I sighed up for & in this economy my girlfriend really wants it? Send us your girlfirend and you will get the money
Zak Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 What's keeping my hopes up right now is the knowledge that way back in '09, RoF wasn't perfect either. Now it's the best WW1 sim there is. I'm sure BoS will be the same, given time. And money. We hope so as well. Also considering that the community is getting mission editor someday in the future. Send us your girlfirend and you will get the money What the hell??
IRRE_Belmont Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 @Belmont: Brilliant! You should make a movie about it before Peter Jackson makes a 3-part-prequel-movie about it Y'a pas à dire... j'me suis poilé solide sur celle-là. Already making a prequel mate 3
G-pa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 let me make this perfectly clear I paid up front, to support IL2 flight simulation, but not to have to unlock, I thought that was the deal! comments please!
Voidhunger Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 its not about unlocks (maybe a litlle) but the sp campaign is boring as hell without life and ...its a joke in this kind of simulator. old IL2 is better even with worse graphic and FM
G-pa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Send us your girlfirend and you will get the mone you can't afford her boy?
DD_bongodriver Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I thought we all knew about the unlocks for months and months, I don't like them, but knew we were getting them. 3
FTC_crash1983 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 i went to land on frist mission of the campain cashed got 50% of the points, didnt unlock the 23.cannon and cant play next mission with out it and cant reaplay frist one stuck with no way to unlock anything. how do i fix this?
Zak Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 let me make this perfectly clear I paid up front, to support IL2 flight simulation, but not to have to unlock, I thought that was the deal! comments please! You did support the sim, thank you for it. And you got early access. That was the deal. I thought we all knew about the unlocks for months and months, I don't like them, but knew we were getting them. Another god blessed day when bongo may be the most reasonable person in the thread.
kaboki Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) The SP guys don't like grinding unlocks any more than the MP guys. We both play the same game except the MP guys fly against human opponents and the SP guys against AI opponents. Beyond that we're all flying around shooting things up. I don't think either group likes the unlock "storyline" behind their gaming. You should see all the SP guys howling on SimHQ about it. The XP grinding gets in the way of everybody's immersion, not just the MP guys. I probably just speak for myself here, but it's not the grinding in itself that bothers me. I could give a damn about wether we have to grind those unlocks or not. But I want to grind in the mode I like to play and that is MP, that way I would atleast feel Im achiveing something for my skill. I hate SP because it's just not any challenge at all and I purely bought the game to play MP. So being forced into something I never paid to play just to get the full game in MP I find really annoying and it pisses me off. It sure would take me longer to grind in MP because it's harder but I would atleast have fun while doing it.....Im not having ANY fun at the moment...Being bored when playing a video game isn't exactly encouraging me to continue. It tempts me more to go elsewhere and look for FUN. Another god blessed day when bongo may be the most reasonable person in the thread. Well it depends on who judge what is reasonable or not..from your subjective view that may be reasonable... Edited October 4, 2014 by kaboki
Madov Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 bullshit were are the original founders we shouldn't have to unlock anything? As an original founder who bought into this sim in July 2013 I was well aware what the benefits of 'foundership' were. The requirement of unlocking stuff being dispensed with was never offered from then until now. You bought into the sim and now complain rudely. I am glad that these developers are strong enough to stick to their guns and not vacillate according to the ill winds coming from certain quarters. Let them defend their plans as the Russians defended Stalingrad. Go away if you can't stand the heat, stay and fly their way if you can put aside your ego. 4
G-pa Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Talk to the customer service for the answer, please. The link is in your profile. I'm afraid this is not going to happen, also 3 planes turning game into a slideshow are poorly related to graphics, it's about optimization which is WIP. Everyone's equal except the bonuses that Founders were give. ALL unlocks is not what they were given. uploaded my game for the ump-teen time can't unlock shit?
Zak Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 uploaded my game for the ump-teen time can't unlock shit? 1 day ban for flaming. If you have any extra questions please talk to customer support.
SYN_Lt_Dan Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Already making a prequel mate better put that on hold mate don't think you have the XP to make part 2 yet 1
DD_bongodriver Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Another god blessed day when bongo may be the most reasonable person in the thread. I'm not that bad.
Chuck_Owl Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 [You do not have sufficient XP points to comment about the above post.] 3
IRRE_Belmont Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 better put that on hold mate don't think you have the XP to make part 2 yet Damnit Gonna start a kickstarter hold on
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