1CGS LukeFF Posted August 2, 2013 1CGS Posted August 2, 2013 possible mods Bf109F-4: armoured windshield no headarmour gunpods droptank bombs The armored windshield, removed head armor, and bombs were in the alpha we saw.
71st_AH_Mastiff Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 lol I guess the real problem is the MP guys are just to lazy to start a campaign. lol
Trident_109 Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Bonne nouvelle ! question "avant 1er septembre" donc beta en aout ? j'espere de tout mon coeur ! Good news! issue 'before September 1' so beta in August? I hope with all my heart! No. The prerelease clearly says FALL. That is from September 21st to December 22. Anywhere in between those dates is when we will receive the prerelease. September 1st is still summer. We won't get it then unless something great happens. The prerelease is a sort of beta test as not all features and menus may be added until perfected and distributed by 777. Both the $89.00 and $49.00 prerelease is PRIOR to the official release, which is sometime in spring 2014 (March 21 to June 21st).
Feathered_IV Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Nice little extra to sweeten the preorder. Almost got my slush fund up to the required amount for a preorder. Next week hopefully. I liked the idea of these unlockable features. One of the drawbacks from earlier sims is there's no real tangible reward for progressing. This will go some way to fixing that. Some things I won't really ever unlock. The He-111 just isn't my bag, so the electrically heated cock sock will be out if my grasp (see what I did there?). However I'm sure I'll carry all before me with a Stuka siren and a cup holder in the Pe-2. 2
Matt Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Thanks alot for the pre-order bonus. lol I guess the real problem is the MP guys are just to lazy to start a campaign. lol And if you would have to play MP (instead of the campaign) to unlock these mods, everyone who doesn't play MP would be too lazy aswell then i guess. Anyhow, If the campaign will be good enough, it's not a problem for me. Still not convinced by that method, but then this unlocking business is not clear enough for me (does unlocking mods for the FW 190 require you to fly a not-so-historical BoS campaign, that's one of the things i'm curious about, same for other planes that possibly get added later and did not show up during the BoS).
Bearcat Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 This is actually a very good question ..... I am in your boat CS.. most of my offline flying is either in QMs or SMs.. I rarely do campaigns at all.. and I fly offline daily.. usually in the morning before I go to work.. Can this be clarified? Is it possible that the dve team could/would make the unlocks available for offline play period as opposed to just campaigns.. Make it so that it is based on time spent flying an aircraft offline period whether in a QM, SM or campaign?
Kling Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Some of you guys will find a way to complain about everything. This!!! Sometimes I really lose hope in humanity...
150GCT_Veltro Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) This!!! Sometimes I really lose hope in humanity... Agree, all these complains are going to be really boring.......wait and see. However i've some questions for the expertens, the IL2 with gunner was a filed mod or a different version? And the Bf-109F-4/B was itself a filed mod or a different version? Edited August 2, 2013 by 150GCT_Veltro
1CGS BlackSix Posted August 2, 2013 1CGS Posted August 2, 2013 No. The prerelease clearly says FALL. That is from September 21st to December 22. Anywhere in between those dates is when we will receive the prerelease. September 1st is still summer. We won't get it then unless something great happens. The prerelease is a sort of beta test as not all features and menus may be added until perfected and distributed by 777. Both the $89.00 and $49.00 prerelease is PRIOR to the official release, which is sometime in spring 2014 (March 21 to June 21st). In the Russian language there is no distinction between the words Autumn and Fall. Autumn begins on September 1 and ends on November 30. Winter begins on December 1 and ends on February 28. Spring begins on March 1 and ends on May 31. We use these terms in our work. 3
1CGS LukeFF Posted August 2, 2013 1CGS Posted August 2, 2013 However i've some questions for the expertens, the IL2 with gunner was a filed mod or a different version? The initial Il-2s with gunners were field mods.
DD_Reggie Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 In the Russian language there is no distinction between the words Autumn and Fall. Autumn begins on September 1 and ends on November 30. Winter begins on December 1 and ends on February 28. Spring begins on March 1 and ends on May 31. We use these terms in our work. Ahh, there you go everyone, the Premium Pre-Orders can expect access any time from September 1st to November 30th Excellent, looking forward to it.
LuftManu Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) In the Russian language there is no distinction between the words Autumn and Fall. Autumn begins on September 1 and ends on November 30. Winter begins on December 1 and ends on February 28. Spring begins on March 1 and ends on May 31. We use these terms in our work. Excelent news Blacksix! altrough i bough the standar edition I cant wait to see footage and reviews from the guys, Thanks! Edited August 2, 2013 by .-RDS-.Manu_vc
Feathered_IV Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Ahh, there you go everyone, the Premium Pre-Orders can expect access any time from September 1st to November 30th Excellent, looking forward to it. It may be the result of ten years of Maddox-induced stress disorder with regards to release dates, but I have to ask: what happens to premium buyers if they are late?
HippyDruid Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Very nice. I hope the rear gunner works the way it did in IL2 which was really well done ... easy to aim and shoot with mouse, very intuitive. In ROF it's good but not as good. Just one opinion. ^^ This!! I am also interested in the the workings of the gunner. IL-2 does it very well indeed. I expect, I can drag a few more cronies into the game if the gunner is setup well and is intuitive. Any more information on this in the coming weeks would be very interesting to see. Cheers.
BraveSirRobin Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 lol I guess the real problem is the MP guys are just to lazy to start a campaign. lol No, the problem is that MP guys haven't the slightest interest in flying against AI. 1
leitmotiv Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 lazy Guys playing coops or online wars spend a loot time preparing , training for missions with team mates and its just not interesting playing alone vs Ais no mather how good single player campaign is, not to say how mutch time most of them spend billding coop misions or complicated SEOW campaigns (somtimes preperations goes more then 6 months to have all well set, counting online tests and so on), online its not only DF servers 1
Trident_109 Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) In the Russian language there is no distinction between the words Autumn and Fall. Autumn begins on September 1 and ends on November 30. Winter begins on December 1 and ends on February 28. Spring begins on March 1 and ends on May 31. We use these terms in our work. I didn't think there was a distinction, B6. Good to know any way. What I didn't know was that the times of the actual seasons was considered different than here. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised on September 1. Thanks for the clarification. EDIT: Hopefully my original intent was understood that I didn't want an uprising of forum members if the pre release gets pushed back to November when many are hoping or expecting September 1st. Edited August 2, 2013 by Robert
Heywooood Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 It may be the result of ten years of Maddox-induced stress disorder with regards to release dates, but I have to ask: what happens to premium buyers if they are late? dont be late In the Russian language there is no distinction between the words Autumn and Fall. Autumn begins on September 1 and ends on November 30. Winter begins on December 1 and ends on February 28. Spring begins on March 1 and ends on May 31. We use these terms in our work. i am officially excited now, be sure
[JG54]Vyper Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 In the Russian language there is no distinction between the words Autumn and Fall. Autumn begins on September 1 and ends on November 30. Winter begins on December 1 and ends on February 28. Spring begins on March 1 and ends on May 31. We use these terms in our work. I was going to guess the early release to be timed with the GamesCom event near the end of September...but if it happens before then, I won't complain!
Tone71 Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Rest assured the early release will be between 15th September and 29th September... because that's when I'm away on holiday!
Streiff Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Rest assured the early release will be between 15th September and 29th September... because that's when I'm away on holiday! I have heard from good sources that it will in fact be released the 15th of September. Oh, on the 29th it will close down until further notice for server maintenance.
1CGS LukeFF Posted August 2, 2013 1CGS Posted August 2, 2013 In the Russian language there is no distinction between the words Autumn and Fall. Autumn begins on September 1 and ends on November 30. Winter begins on December 1 and ends on February 28. Spring begins on March 1 and ends on May 31. We use these terms in our work. Heh, it sounds a bit like my experience when I was working in Israel earlier this year. Over there, the work week starts on Sunday and ends on Thursday. Quite a bit jarring for someone used to a lifetime of Monday-Friday work schedules.
crossfade Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Dear Pilots! A few days ago we launched our pre-order program and we're sincerely grateful to those of you who have already pre-ordered or will order the Standard or Premium edition of IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad in the coming days. We appreciate your support and confidence in us. Most of you must have noticed that the video trailer features an IL-2 with a rear gunner; however this version of the IL-2 is not in the announced list of planes that will be available at launch. Today we happily reveal that the IL-2 weapon modification with a rear mounted ShKAS gun will be available from the start to everyone who pre-orders the game before September 1st, 2013. You can pre-order the game now at IL2Sturmovik.com THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Tone71 Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I have heard from good sources that it will in fact be released the 15th of September. Oh, on the 29th it will close down until further notice for server maintenance. It will happen, I just know it...
Feathered_IV Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Feathered_IV, on 02 Aug 2013 - 20:54, said: It may be the result of ten years of Maddox-induced stress disorder with regards to release dates, but I have to ask: what happens to premium buyers if they are late? dont be late i am officially excited now, be sure What I meant was, what happens if the developers are late and they miss the Autumn launch window.
Heywooood Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) I imagine first still means first - the Premies will still get the first look and the devs will give them time to discover...then the Standards - then general release - the whole program would be pushed back ...but shut up lol...sheesh - jinxer Edited August 3, 2013 by Heywooood
Bearcat Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 This is actually a very good question ..... I am in your boat CS.. most of my offline flying is either in QMs or SMs.. I rarely do campaigns at all.. and I fly offline daily.. usually in the morning before I go to work.. Can this be clarified? Is it possible that the dve team could/would make the unlocks available for offline play period as opposed to just campaigns.. Make it so that it is based on time spent flying an aircraft offline period whether in a QM, SM or campaign?
Zmaj76 Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) I wonder if unlockable planes would be unlockable in offline mode and later used in MP.... Edited August 3, 2013 by Tvrdi
Mogster Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 I'm OK with unlockable elements, people have asked for this approach on the ROF boards on occasion. ROF already has some unlockable elements in career mode.
71st_AH_Hooves Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) I wonder if unlockable planes would be unlockable in offline mode and later used in MP.... I dont think so as the way they are counting towards the unlocks is through the Single player online stats. I could be wrong but that is my simple understanding. Edited August 3, 2013 by Hooves
VPK_CARTOON Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 I wonder if unlockable planes would be unlockable in offline mode and later used in MP.... This is correct in my opinion.
71st_AH_Hooves Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 This is correct in my opinion. I thought the campaign missions were generated online, and that's where you get the points from.
71st_AH_Mastiff Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 I thought the campaign missions were generated online, and that's where you get the points from. yes..
hiro Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Well the campaigns need to d/l for specifics. This can be handy if the first few guinea pigs find a campaign is borked, then the devs can fix it and the Il-2 redownloads it again. The mention of the time spent in the game is a good idea, I think there should be multiple criteria for unlocking . . . like several paths to unlocking (unless its pay up then get the unlock) In the game, suited for however you play and the game can be coded to figure out someone's preferred method. But the best would be the player can choose it. Of course then the dev's would get the complaint that one way to unlock is unfair etc . . . I mean in war if you wanted X development, the country either did it themselves, or waited until their enemy did it, and steal it, or build something else or find a technique around the advantage that development gave, or waited for a blunder (like a lost pilot landing in an enemy airfield thinking it's his / hers. --------- Ok I crunched the numbers and figured out the thread code: Unlocking the locked lockables by playing so once unlocked would the lockables still be considered locked and lockable? Or would be unlocked and counted as an unlockable and therefore stock, but since used to be locked but now unlocked the lockable, now considered unlocked so it's safe to say lock stock and barrel, since the previously locked unlockable has a machine gun. spec-ing out a machine (PC) . . . I already got the preorder in . . . Exciting times man, to on the ground breaking sim as it's readied, and fly it. LukeFF, on 01 Aug 2013 - 11:40, said: Some of you guys will find a way to complain about everything. This!!!Sometimes I really lose hope in humanity... I think the awesomeness of the cool things that we do, outweighs the bad. ANd sometimes something bad happens as its lesson to be learned. Watch that movie Flight (the one that came out this year), and at the end it really has a great lesson. Plus it's WW 2 related in a long stretch. Sometimes complaints aren't related to the subject matter at hand, but from something deeper in the one lodging the complaint. Like at one my jobs long time ago, this lady kept complaining and eventually they brought me in (I was one of the leads). In talking with her, found out that her ex husband was computer tech and it wasn't her computer that was the issue, she just had rage issues vs her ex husband's (and his profession). She was in her 30's and was acting like she was in highschool, and I had to point out the differences in the situation. I then realized maybe switching to HR dept (because HR had all the single ladies) was a bad idea because they did alot of baby sitting. ONe can look at all the rage / complaint posts, and find similar user names in the Banana / ubi forums, or even just by reading the posts . . . and surmise the reason lies with CLOD. I'd be safe to say a great number (of people complaining / trolling etc) are because they felt they got burned from CLOD or were on the IL-2 side in the old IL-2 vs ROF back when Oleg was in the mix. Edited August 4, 2013 by hiro 1
Zmaj76 Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) lol I guess the real problem is the MP guys are just to lazy to start a campaign. lol Its not that. Wer just not used to it and dont have interest in spending our gaming time on SP. As you know most of us are family guys with real jobs. Every free time is used for MP to fly with buddies. In ROF I only finished first two parts of trainings. I thought unlockable planes are a good idea but if they couold be unlocked only in SP im not sure any more LOL Well see what will be after all..... Edited August 5, 2013 by Tvrdi 1
Talisman Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 Its not that. Wer just not used to it and dont have interest in spending our gaming time on SP. As you know most of us are family guys with real jobs. Every free time is used for MP to fly with buddies. In ROF I only finished first two parts of trainings. I thought unlockable planes are a good idea but if they couold be unlocked only in SP im not sure any more LOL Well see what will be after all..... Well put Tvrdi. Perhaps if we could fly the campaigns with our squad buddies and progress together, then that would help. If we can go on-line and fly a campaign with our squadron buddies and progress together in a Yak 1 for example, then that might serve as our training for the BoS theatre of operations and give us all the upgrades to our aircraft as applicable. Of course, then that would not be strictly a single player campaign, but more like a multiplayer campaign with an AI mix. Perhaps that is what the BoS development team will offer the community.
SvAF/F16_Goblin Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 That would be a very interesting scenario. There is possibilities then for a squad to fly training campaigns together against AI only to prepare and hone tactics.
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