Unlocking mods in solo career

[Rama]

This poll is about the mods unlocking feature announced by the dev Friday 6/6

[CCG_Pips]

I voted...

 

To be clear, if we have to play solo campaign to unlock some mods, I will think twice before to buy BOS and, sorry, but much probably will not buy it.

 

I never played any solo campaign (IL2) & just two or three solo missions on ROF....so I will be unable to unlock any of these mods. So, if these mods are necessary to play in online coop missions , I will just have to stop playing!!!

 

it should be far better to offer these mods freely with this solo campaign or payable for other customers that play only online coop.

[AndyJWest]

Since at this point it is entirely unclear what exactly is involved, I can't see much point in having a poll.

[DD_Crash]

+1 Andy J is right, until we know the proposed scheme of what the mods are and how they are earned all this is just speculation. And no doubt some people will get worked up over it when there might be no need.

[Rama]

What is absolutely clear (confirmed by Jason 2 times) is that the mods (at least some mods) will be unlockable only in solo career. It isn't speculation.

The point of the poll is only about this specific feature. It can't be more clear.

[--Voltaire]

Dear devs of BOS !..

 

I Fly ROF (that i appreciate so much) since the beginning !...

 

 

What do I think about the obligation to unlock mods in solo campaign?

 

Definitively I... I DISLIKE it !...

 

I would prefer the ROF way !... 

 

Best regards 

 

[LAL_Wolf]

+1

 

Definitively I... I DISLIKE it !...

[RAF74_Winger]

Didn't vote. I do have an opinion: It will give a good sense of progression within a single player career, but has some downsides in multi-player gaming particularly within established squadrons. However, until we know exactly how it will be implemented there's no point making a fuss except to insist that 1C/777 clarify their intentions.

 

W.

[ACG_Kraut]

I'm opposed to any unlocks in multiplayer. They just don't work in any game that takes itself seriously. 

I couldn't care less about what they do with SP, I will only be in MP. If you have to do unlocks, keep it strictly SP.

[Trooper117]

First reaction, 'not sure if I like that idea'.. but then I thought,I don't care one way or the other really, and as it looks like that is the way the game is structured anyway you are going to have to like it or lump it, or throw your teddy in the corner, bite your nose off to spite your face etc etc.. its no big deal in the grand scheme of things.

I love the way though that in any flight sim game there are people who say they won't buy the game or support the devs if they don't get things their way... classic!

[Rama]

Please no disputes and controversy, this poll is only for what it is: a poll, nothing more. So please do no comment on each other opinions, everybody is entitled to have its own.

I launched this poll to have an idea about the distribution of opinions about this matter, not to start an ego fight. Polls are what this sub-forum is all about, no?

Edited July 7, 2013 by Rama

[Emile]

Hello,

1 : dislike

2 : never play solo campaign

3 : no no no , please make it as simple as possible, thx.

[Zak]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, gents. I'll keep an eye on this thread because, as I said before, this feature may be redesigned in some way - public testing programs wil show how exactly.

 

P.S. please, avoid using red colored letters, red is for moderators only.

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

I like it, because it will focus on how to play this Sim. and give you some history on the cause and effect of the Battles. You never know it might make you have a better understanding on how to use the mod...Or they'll just start selling those mods, either way; any way to fund the project is a good idea.

Edited July 16, 2013 by Mastiff

[BraveSirRobin]

I'd like to see them force single player only people to fly MP in order to unlock items.  

 

Just kidding...

 

But you can imagine the outrage if they tried that.  Forcing MP people to fly in SP is an awful idea.

[LuftManu]

I think , It can be a Good idea, but how it is Used, i will explain.

 

MP: The Unlocks can be on/off depend on the Server, and if it is On, Depends on the "points" or the "time" you are on the server. also the Squadron you are Flying whit it could be some exception (Dont depend if the Server has this On/Off), ex: if XX squadron Didnt Have this mod, you cant Get it up, but if YY yes, you can already set it, the first time you select the Aircraft

 

SP:Simple, a Option that sets on or Off, On: Points you earn on your Victories, to spends in Modifications and Planes , just for challengin, and off, Just play whit the old way,

 

This is only Ideas, for me i would like this idea, if the Option becomes availible in the Final release, Salute and sorry for my English.

Edited July 26, 2013 by =RDS=Manu_vc

[Nuni]

I dislike it... but why???

Because  I don't play solo campaign...

This kind of sims with out our partners or team mates are only another ordinary PC game.

[Habu]

There are 2 points about unlock.

 

As a player

I dislike and hate that kind of system. And i don't play solo campaign. Spending time to unlock features is a waste of time for me.

 

As a mission builder

That feature will be an horror to manage in our squad and other one. When i'll build a mission, i will have to do my mission with the unlock of my players. We already have the same thing with Rof with the plane, but we can manage it (hardly but it's possible). But for features on planes, it will be an horror. I don't know if the following situation will be real, but i imagine a bombing mission for exemple. Players enter the mission, and one after one, they say, sorry man, i didn't unlock that bomb. Ok men, let's play battlefields instead of IL2.

 

I think that gold farmer for MMO can have another oportunity to earn money with people who doens't waste their time to fly mission to unlock features.

 

In my squad, most of the players have wife and children, so they can fly one maybe two time a weeks. So, they don't want to waste their time in solo and multi to unlock features they should have. What will be the result for that people is that they will stopped flying il2 and do something else.

 

If they don't have the online connection, i will say let's use an hexadecimal program like we did for amiga and Atari to unlock features.

[16th-BR_diditopgun]

I dislike ! It's a combat flight simulator not "Battlefield", a MMO or whatever.....

[[JG54]Vyper]

Wow.

 

I guess we are all entitled to our opinions. Sorry but I find choice 3 to be a hilariously broken statement.

 

I think it's kind of neat that we'll be "encouraged" to fly some solo campaign in order to unlock some one aircraft per side.

 

Keeping in mind I already paid for premium and am almost exclusively a PvP/Multiplayer kind of pilot....I voted for it.  

 

I would REALLY enjoy it if in addition to the solo campaign we could also have the option of doing Co-Op. That would be amazing squad night/training fun.

[Rama]

Everybody is free to find any other's statement hilarious or broken... it doesn't mean it is hilarious or broken for everybody. In order to keep this thread clean, I asked everybody not to give his opinion on other's statement (see here ). So far it has been the case, I would appreciate it to continue. Thank's in advance.

PS. I also allready paid for premium.

[PA-Sniv]

I dislike it if we can't use them in coop mode as long as we haven't unlocked them in solo mode (as for the Yak-1 and G2)...

 

I may like it if we can unlock the mods in a "coop mode way"...

[PB0_Balto]

I dislike it and i dont play build in campaign on simulator as IL2 1946.

[[JG54]Vyper]

Everybody is free to find any other's statement hilarious or broken... it doesn't mean it is hilarious or broken for everybody. In order to keep this thread clean, I asked everybody not to give his opinion on other's statement (see here ). So far it has been the case, I would appreciate it to continue. Thank's in advance.

PS. I also allready paid for premium.

My apologies. I could have sworn when I read #3 yesterday it said something about "can't get mods", it seems to read fine now, ie make more sense.

 

And, for all I know English might not be your first language, so in that regard you would be doing far better than I.

 

I still think its...odd....that for a group of folks that are prepared to sit in front of a game for untold hours they aren't willing to put a small effort into this system and treat it sight unseen as if someone was trying to hand them an annoyed tarantula.

 

  

[Mick]

... I most probably won't buy the game if such a "gimmick" is implemented in BoS ....

[Volkoff]

Such a feature would not stop me from buying the game. I already pre-ordered the Premium Edition. Still, I will devote almost all of my time to multiplayer gameplay, with the exception of training missions. I would very much prefer that we also have a multiplayer game mode pathway to unlocking mods, in addition to a single player pathway.

[leitmotiv]

i like this option in single player campaigns, it makes it somehow more interesting, your reworded for your progress your encouraged to play it more to unlock different add-ons for your airplane or more airplanes so you can play more differant missions and campaigns and story is interesting

 

and if this could be only implemented for single player and have everything (exept airplanes you didnt still buy) unlocked if you wont to play online, would be much better. This i believe would not cause any problems for guys playing single player campaigns and eliminates all problems that guys bilding missions and playing online wars or coops will have if they dont wont to play SP campaigns to unlock all

[I/JG27_Zimmi]

Has there been a statement how we can unlock those features yet?

 

Will you be able to unlock the features just under full real settings? Are non full real pilots forced to fly full real to unlock all items and vice-versa? Is it a system which equally allows to unlock features using the whole spectrum of difficulty settings?

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

I voted...

 

To be clear, if we have to play solo campaign to unlock some mods, I will think twice before to buy BOS and, sorry, but much probably will not buy it.

 

I never played any solo campaign (IL2) & just two or three solo missions on ROF....so I will be unable to unlock any of these mods. So, if these mods are necessary to play in online coop missions , I will just have to stop playing!!!

 

it should be far better to offer these mods freely with this solo campaign or payable for other customers that play only online coop.

yea figures you cant bother to play SP but harp on MP? your just lazy!

[bolox]

I'm a 100% offline flier, mainly in campaigns

 

and I think this not a good idea

 

I instinctively dislike being forced into a particular way of playing, and feel this will do nothing the reduce the disdain SP is held in by a small but extremely vocal group of MP players.

[Rama]

your just lazy!

No judgement on other's opinions or behavior please!

[saf]

I voted no opinion.  If it`s there (unlucking modes in SP) I deal with it.  If it`s not there I also deal with it    Not a game breaker for me- what`s the deal?

[DUTTENHOFER]

Solo campaign is a great medium for unlocks. You could eat up noobs all day on MP and gain mods for doing very little. This way everyone is equal. Also Solo campaign fucking rocks. Comparing yourself to your wingmates, trying to keep your pilot alive and well is a great experience. This isn't Call of Duty, it's IL-2, the game that always has a fun and dynamic single player.

[12.DD_Agost]

I think it is a good indicator what you are capable of in a controlled "laboratory"-like environment (in SP) which means everyone faces the same challenge. Altough as a reward it would be maybe luckier to get paint schemes or insignias instead of mods. Mods (I think everyone likes to tinker with his favourite aircraft a bit) should be attained via some kind of XP (I think I read about them somewhere) you have your rank based on your achievements, flying under hard difficulty, completing difficult missions or shooting down higher ranked players, or flying with obsolete or "crap" planes, etc. should get you more XP to unlock mods. This could function both in SP and MP modes quite well, I believe. 

[150GCT_Veltro]

I don't care a lot about single palyer, so i don't like it at all.

 

However, i will not be a tragedy if we'll have also to play the career. It will be a problem, for the our virtual squadrons but as we know, the online community is less than the 2 - 5%. We count less than nothing.

Edited August 5, 2013 by 150GCT_Veltro

[VBTAG_yello]

 the online community is less than the 2 - 5%. We count less than nothing.

 

How do you know? Sad...

[PauloHirth]

PLEASE, let a space for modders, is part of fun too, sounds, effects, 3D fixes, maps... THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THERE IS A LOT OF MOD FANS, WILL INGREASE INTEREST in the big mod community.

[Volkoff]

I don't care a lot about single palyer, so i don't like it at all.

 

However, i will not be a tragedy if we'll have also to play the career. It will be a problem, for the our virtual squadrons but as we know, the online community is less than the 2 - 5%. We count less than nothing.

 

Veltro,

Oh, come on, don't put us down like that, man. You don't count for less than nothing. We couldn't possibly count for nothing. Even dev team members enjoy multiplayer and play on virtual squads, look at the Flying Barans member list. Unless they are serious self haters, they must have some affection for their own kind.  I am sure that the devs want the multiplayer experience to be super awesome.  Hey, the single player career mode fans may be on to something and we can try their World out, see how it is, whatever. I hope that the single player only crowd tries out multiplayer, because I know they will be missing out on some good times, if they do not do so. Anyway, we, multiplayer fans and virtual squad members, will get through whatever the requirements are for the mods. Jason convinced me that it is all just about presenting us with a challenge and rewarding us for our effort. It is no biggie.

 

 MJ

Edited August 16, 2013 by MishaJames

[AX2]

 

I would REALLY enjoy it if in addition to the solo campaign we could also have the option of doing Co-Op. That would be amazing squad night/training fun.

+ 1.000.000.000.000

[J2_Trupobaw]

The poll needs some non-biased questions. Until we know what the mods will be, what their usefulness outside campaign will be and how difficult the'll be to unlock , I have no opinion.