Requiem Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Labeled cockpit for the Bf 109 F-4. I am not a native german speaker nor an expert on the 109, so if there are any issues please let me know and I can amend the images so they will be updated in this first post without needing to edit the post itself. Items in pink on the the right hand side (radiator flap control) and portions of electrical panel which I couldn't read properly could probably use some better translation. 16
Guest deleted@16979 Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Just what i was looking for. TY!
Marcomies Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Great! Any idea what the red and green knobs are?
Uufflakke Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 A = Vorratsmesser Kraftstoff Something like Fuel Indicator. 1
Matt Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 The lever you marked with prop-pitch is actually the fuel cock lever. The prop-pitch is controlled by the rocker-switch on the throttle know itself. The two way switch below the throttle is the switch for automatic propeller pitch control (on/off), in front of the throttle is the mechanical undercarriage position indicator (might be of interest). 1
Uufflakke Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 About the text for the radiator flap control lever: Zu = Closed Auf = Open Ruhe = Rest 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted November 26, 2013 1CGS Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Couple of things: -The coolant temperature gauge is actually a combination gauge that reads coolant exit and oil intake temperature. -The bomb release handle is technically the emergency bomb release handle (i.e., emergency jettison). -"Oxygen shower" should be "oxygen cylinder." Edited November 26, 2013 by LukeFF 1
Requiem Posted November 26, 2013 Author Posted November 26, 2013 Thanks guys, +1 for you I've updated them accordingly, so I hope I've understood you correctly in the changes.
PB0_Foxy Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 About the text for the radiator flap control lever: Zu = Closed Auf = Open Ruhe = Rest If anybody want to know how it works: Engine cooling system description Heat generated by this engine is dissipated into the lipstream from two radiators, one located beneath eachwing root towards the trailing edge. The cooling air flow is controlled by two hydraulic actuators which determine the position of the intake lip and upper and lower radiator flaps associated with each radiator. These flaps are controlled by the rotary selector valve, set by the pilot to one of four detented positions. Both radiator flaps move in association with the wing flaps. The valve settings are 'auf' (flaps fully open),'zu' (flaps fully closed), 'ruhe' (flaps hydraulically lockedat their current position) and 'autom'. When the flaps are at the closed position, and the wing flaps are retracted, the cooling flaps remain slightly apart, and maintain a minimum cooling flowthrough the radiators. The 'autom' setting provides for automatic modulation of the flaps position under the influence of a thermostat. This is installed in the coolant outlet pipework from the engine and normally regulates the engine coolant temperature to around 80°/85°C. At approximately 110°C, at low altitudes,the coolant may be expected to boil. The cooling system operates at elevated pressure maintained by a pressure relief valve whichoperates at approximately 1 bar. Any outflow of coolant from this valve is piped so as to discharge immediately ahead of the exhaust stubs on the right side of the engine, where itimmediately vaporises, thereby indicating to the pilot in a direct manner that the engine has become too hot. Under these conditions it is reported that vapour may enter the cockpit although thepilot was not aware of this. The design and orientation of this relief valve are such that positive g assists the valve to open. Engine temperature is indicated to the pilot on a dual function gauge. This gauge normally indicates coolant temperature,unless the adjacent spring loaded button is pushed, where upon oil temperature is displayed.
Uufflakke Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 These 2 layouts of a Bf 109 F-2 might help as a reference for the F-4 type:
mudpuppy Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Thanks to Requiem for starting this, and others for their contributions. (Pretty darned good community, here.)
Zwoop Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Good job again! I'm gonna add these pictures to the 109 flight manual, if Requiem doesn't have anything against it?
Flyingpencil Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Thanks! Small detail, but the "Oxygen Cylinder" is actually the "Oxygen Regulator" (Or "Economizer" in Queens English . The cylinder is somewhere in back of plane. And missing flow in "Oxygen *flow* monitor." Edited November 26, 2013 by Flyingpencil
Requiem Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Great stuff guys! Updated again. P.S. No objections Zwoop, have at it. Edited November 27, 2013 by SYN_Requiem
PB0_Foxy Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 There is still something wrong about the throttle Requiem ! As Matt said in post 5 , the rocker switch on the throttle is to set manually the prop pitch. The 2 way switch manual/auto is under the throttle friction nut
1CGS LukeFF Posted November 27, 2013 1CGS Posted November 27, 2013 Has anyone noticed that when pushing the stabilizer trim forward, the value on the indicator goes from -8 to 3?
SYN_Ricky Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Couple of things: -The coolant temperature gauge is actually a combination gauge that reads coolant exit and oil intake temperature. Yes and by default it shows coolant temp. To read the oil intake temp one had to press the little know on the right upper corner of the dial.
Trooper117 Posted December 4, 2013 Posted December 4, 2013 Great thread... exactly what the doctor ordered. Thanks for the info guys, we need more like this when the other aircraft come into the game
Marcomies Posted December 4, 2013 Posted December 4, 2013 Does anyone know what those knobs are? According to Uufflakke's reference pictures the big red knob next to the "fuel cock lever" is probably "engine instant stop lever" but there seems to be nothing on the two smaller green knobs: the one in front of fuel primer system and the one above radiator flaps switch.
II./JG27_Rich Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Flare Gun Port next to the Manifold Pressure Gage Edited January 12, 2014 by II./JG27_Rich
StarLightSong Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 Very intuitive way to learn the many controls when set as my desktop : )
SYN_Haashashin Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 I just cleaned this topic. No off-topic and no derailing every other topic please.
Guest deleted@26674 Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Thanks for posting that. I lost all my old pdfs from the IL2 Sturmick days.
Hajnel Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 Labeled cockpit for the Bf 109 F-4. I am not a native german speaker nor an expert on the 109, so if there are any issues please let me know and I can amend the images so they will be updated in this first post without needing to edit the post itself. Items in pink on the the right hand side (radiator flap control) and portions of electrical panel which I couldn't read properly could probably use some better translation.
Hajnel Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/rudywielkie/photos/a.625667007613580.1073741838.261438257369792/625667074280240/?type=3&theater Could you tell me what kind of measurement from cockpit from bf 109 is it? Jagdschweder 77 from April 1945 in Polen, Oberschlesien near Ratibor
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