Pre-order and early access - discussion

[Bearcat]

I find it hard to belive that the two additional planes would cost 40 dollars that is the difference between Standard and Premium Edition prices. In Rise of Flight most normal planes cost nowadays 6.25 dollars and if I remember correctly they used to cost 7.99 dollars before.

Perhaps.. I don't know for sure.. it's just speculation on my part .. but there is certainly more involved in a WWII aircraft than a WWI one on every level and considering that initially RoF aircraft were $8 when you think about it $20 is not far fetched.. but even if it is going to be  $10 or $15 when you multiply that by two (per AC) and factor in the at the least 30 day earlier access.. the difference in price still makes sense..

[Grifter]

I think it's great they offer a premium level, and while the perk pods, etc. are nice it is the early access and ability to participate in the development that revs my engine!

Looking forward to meeting you guys in the sky soon. 

[woodsplitter]

I think it's great they offer a premium level, and while the perk pods, etc. are nice it is the early access and ability to participate in the development that revs my engine!

Looking forward to meeting you guys in the sky soon. 

free stuff early access its all good . I just want the game to be better than dover

[AnaRasanen]

free stuff early access its all good . I just want the game to be better than dover

 

But everybody can unlock those in game.

[Shea]

OK, my pre-order is in.

 

That short little dogfight video got to me... I could hear the whistle of the turbo on the 109...

 

Turbo,don't you mean supercharger

Edited October 20, 2013 by Shea

[Azuredragon]

My body is ready.

[=AVG=Zombie]

Just upgraded my pc, ASUS Maximus V Extreme, Dual SLI EVGA GTX 760, I7 , 16 Gig of ram and a ssd card.

That being said i reloaded all of my games and CLoD plays like a friggin movie!! ATAG's TF v4  is pretty damn good. It is like a different game now, anyway looking forward to BOS on max settings.....

[Recon]

Perhaps.. I don't know for sure.. it's just speculation on my part .. but there is certainly more involved in a WWII aircraft than a WWI one on every level and considering that initially RoF aircraft were $8 when you think about it $20 is not far fetched.. but even if it is going to be  $10 or $15 when you multiply that by two (per AC) and factor in the at the least 30 day earlier access.. the difference in price still makes sense..

 

So, I thought BOS wasn't going to have the 'pay for aircraft' setup like ROF.  But now I think it will ?   I was under impression (don't know why) that they would sell theatre's vs. just aircraft ?

[Dakpilot]

The two bonus aircraft in the premium version have been stated to be available as a separate purchase for those buying the standard game.

 

As far as the future it has been stated that the sales model will be different to ROF

 

however in a way, if in the future a theater that does not pique my interest, it would be nice to just "cherry pick" one aircraft that I really want to have 

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[AcesHigh]

So, I thought BOS wasn't going to have the 'pay for aircraft' setup like ROF.  But now I think it will ?   I was under impression (don't know why) that they would sell theatre's vs. just aircraft ?

 

My guess is pricing will be held out until much later, once they get an initial reaction to the games demand.   More demand more opportunity for DLC transactions.  They are after all in the business to make money, although I don't always agree with the way it's done.

[LordNeuro*Srb*]

R we going to have a full campaine of bettle of stalingrad. Time frame from avgust to end in february, with sesons map, or wheter changing.

And second releted qvestion is starting bettles of stalingrad, the city by it self undemaged and then with constantly bombardment eventualy in ruins.

[LLv44_Mprhead]

R we going to have a full campaine of bettle of stalingrad. Time frame from avgust to end in february, with sesons map, or wheter changing.

And second releted qvestion is starting bettles of stalingrad, the city by it self undemaged and then with constantly bombardment eventualy in ruins.

 

They have stated that timeframe will be from start of operation Uranus until the end of battle, so the answer is no.

[Bearcat]

So, I thought BOS wasn't going to have the 'pay for aircraft' setup like ROF.  But now I think it will ?   I was under impression (don't know why) that they would sell theatre's vs. just aircraft ?

 

Perhaps it will be a matter of both or some mixture.. perhaps it will be done in two plane increments I don't know.. I am just speculating .. but based on what I have read here I wold not be surprised if the content was in the $15-$25 range given that the RoF stuff was initially $8. A pay for aircraft setup is not a bad setup IMO.. It would be different if you had to have the aircraft on every machine but the way it is done in RoF is IMO a very good way to go.. It is not pay to win it is pay to fly.. I would most likely not buy certain aircraft until they went on sale while there are others that I would buy out the gate because I would intend to fly them.

[99th_Jaguar]

I  hope  that the ROF businness model will be different in BOS. Jason mentioned this on Facebook. Bundle each add on  as a theater pack with planes, maps, missions ect.  I am onboard. Then we can get back to arguing on the forum about who's plane was undermodeled. Ah the good ole days.      P.S. don't forget about Leand Lease.      

[Dexadrinne]

Well i REALLY hoping it all works. CLOD is trying to resurface bad feelings

[Zak]

For Standard edition owners La-5 and Fw 190 A-3 will be available for purchase separately (additionally, etc). This doesn't mean that all future content (god help us to create it) is going to be delivered this way.

Proper expansion packs with new maps and several planes - this is the plan for new releases.

[Jason_Williams]

Yes, what Zak says is correct and is what I have said many times guys. A focus on theaters with a possibility of SOME aircraft sold a la cart.

 

Jason

[ST_ami7b5]

^^ I like that.

[HeavyCavalrySgt]

Thank you.

[clayman]

I like that too .... Thanks!

Edited October 24, 2013 by clayman

[AnaRasanen]

I want to buy new planes...

[Mac_Messer]

Proper expansion packs with new maps and several planes - this is the plan for new releases.

Count me in for that! Would be awesome to buy individual theatre of operations expansion packs that consist of map(s) and adequate aircraft types and variants. At the same time, maybe the unhistorical planesets could be bought separately, to gain more interest and income.

[=BKHZ=Furbs]

Still not convinced enough yet Mac? come on...the waters much nicer in the founders pool, plus we have beer and girls over here.

Edited October 24, 2013 by =BKHZ=Furbs

[DD_bongodriver]

Mac, come on in, the waters lovely really, I haven't turned into a mindless zombie like the rest of them.......yet

[Mac_Messer]

Now that you mention it, yes, I`m not convinced so far. Main problem for me being the multiplayer part, hard to tell what BoS will be in this respect. I`m hoping that BoS can replicate IL2 in that area, then I`d be happy but so far, not enough material to make a decision.

Second being, I`m not exactly your typical simmer who has money to burn on everything he`d like. I had to choose, so a $40 choice was the only possible since BoS early access costs too much imo.

 

That said, I could`ve made a different choice if only I could buy only beta access restricted to bf109F4 + gunpods for say $30. Maybe some food for thought for the devs here. I also think that $100 for preorder in 2014 is going to make people think a bit more before they put down their cash on the table.

Edited October 24, 2013 by Mac_Messer

[Livai]

!!!EARLY ACCESS IMPORTANT NEWS!!!

 

All who have bought the Premium Package before the 18 October 2013 the early access starts on the 12 November 2013 and who bought the Standard Package need to wait to Dezember 2013. 

 

Confirmed from Source: http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/il-2-sturmovik-battle-of-stalingrad/news/il_2_sturmovik_battle_of_stalingrad,49017,3029238.html

[Dakpilot]

!!!EARLY ACCESS IMPORTANT NEWS!!!  confirmed from ZAK: consider the release on the 15th and if you get it earlier be happy 

 

Cheers Dakpilot

Edited October 24, 2013 by Dakpilot

[Matt]

Confirmed from Source: http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/il-2-sturmovik-battle-of-stalingrad/news/il_2_sturmovik_battle_of_stalingrad,49017,3029238.html

Like that's a confirmation.

 

Maybe they just copied it from these guys:

http://www.combatsim.com/printer.php?id=17475

 

I think the "after the 11th november" comment from Loft has been misunderstood.

 

 

I rank "sources" like this:

 

1. Developer

2. Alpha/Beta testers who can't keep their mouth shut (if applicable)

3. Publisher

4. Rumours on the forums

..

..

99. Video game magazines

[SOLIDKREATE]

 

 

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[Shea]

Will prob be confirmed tomorrow

[Petrosky]

I have a question or two about this pre-order i have bought one founders key and am wondering if i could order another with the same e-mail and sign in name would be nice to have another

copy installed on a seperate computer in case friend was over to try it out

[FuriousMeow]

Now that you mention it, yes, I`m not convinced so far. Main problem for me being the multiplayer part, hard to tell what BoS will be in this respect. I`m hoping that BoS can replicate IL2 in that area, then I`d be happy but so far, not enough material to make a decision.

Second being, I`m not exactly your typical simmer who has money to burn on everything he`d like. I had to choose, so a $40 choice was the only possible since BoS early access costs too much imo.

 

That said, I could`ve made a different choice if only I could buy only beta access restricted to bf109F4 + gunpods for say $30. Maybe some food for thought for the devs here. I also think that $100 for preorder in 2014 is going to make people think a bit more before they put down their cash on the table.

 

 

You spent $40 on a title still a year away, then added another $10 on top of that. That title has a total lack of anything so far. $50 for standard access was too much?

[Rama]

I have a question or two about this pre-order i have bought one founders key and am wondering if i could order another with the same e-mail and sign in name would be nice to have another

copy installed on a seperate computer in case friend was over to try it out

 

I don't think you will be able run simultaneously the game on 2 different computers with the same login with an internet connection (at least, it isn't possible for RoF).

But if you want an offline access or a non-simultaneous access, you probably can do it on 2 different computers without purchasing a second key (at least, it's how it works with RoF).

[Stlkrash]

Actually you can get a refund. I asked and yes you can. On the Arm 3 refund thing, have you went thru the hoops and run around with steam and BI yet? I know a bunch of people in that mess right now. Good luck on that. They said and I kid you not, "We have you money, we don't care"

 

Now 777 and the IL2 team, have told me personally it is possible to refund you but I wouldn't do it just yet man. It is a BETA so will have issues, but it's our job to help them fix those issues and come with neat new stuff for them to figure out how to do for us lol..

 

So just wait it out, if you spent your cash, you spent your cash. See what happens, if you see issues tell them and see what happens, then make your decision.

 

But BI and Arma, can piss right off... All I will say about them, having supported them since OFP....

[FuriousMeow]

You can currently run RoF on many different computers, but only one instance at a time if using the same key/login. If you want to play at the same time on two different computers, you need two keys and two logins. Since email is free, I don't see much of an issue on that side.

[Mac_Messer]

You spent $40 on a title still a year away, then added another $10 on top of that. That title has a total lack of anything so far. $50 for standard access was too much?

I disagree about the "lack of anything" I bought both the P51D and FW190D9 that have already been created. At the same time I could support Luthier`s project. Until October the 2nd my pledge was $30, when I got my payment early I could squeeze out additional $10. So you see, there was no counteroffer from BoS devs.

[ElpolakoElpolako]

Hi I hope that the game will also speak Polish

I can not afford to access Premium and Standard Editions, but I would like to play and I admit that I would prefer Premium Edition

Edited October 25, 2013 by ElpolakoElpolako

[Bearcat]

 

 

I disagree about the "lack of anything" I bought both the P51D and FW190D9 that have already been created. At the same time I could support Luthier`s project. Until October the 2nd my pledge was $30, when I got my payment early I could squeeze out additional $10. So you see, there was no counteroffer from BoS devs.

Mac that statement makes no sense. Why would 1CGS make a "counter offer" they provided two options and it was up to us to take one or not. It is that simple. You chose not.. You chose to support DCS WWII and that is your choice. It still won't get you anything until at least a year.. and again that is your choice.

[clayman]

That exactly it Bearcat .... its a choice, simple. Yet it amazes me, we've gone through some very lean years for both flightsims and combat flightsims in general. Man o man now we have some movement, we finally are seeing some hope for this tiny genre we all have loved for years .... and people go off the rails forum wise like always. One can always get a refund, one can always buy all of them, one could be happy we have so much going on .... I for one am excited as hell, we the players have it good for the first time in a long time ... we have multiple choices, how good does that get?  ~S

[Aeromaster37]

That exactly it Bearcat .... its a choice, simple. Yet it amazes me, we've gone through some very lean years for both flightsims and combat flightsims in general. Man o man now we have some movement, we finally are seeing some hope for this tiny genre we all have loved for years .... and people go off the rails forum wise like always. One can always get a refund, one can always buy all of them, one could be happy we have so much going on .... I for one am excited as hell, we the players have it good for the first time in a long time ... we have multiple choices, how good does that get?  ~S

My feelings exactly.