Developer Diary, Part 81

[Feathered_IV]

Are they deserters?  They dont dress like ground crew.

[heinkill]

Listen guys,

 

We have said all along that this was the system that was being built and would be implemented. Why anyone would assume that just because you bought the early access you would be exempt from this system is bizarre. If you want to help us find bugs and test the system great, if you want to complain about something ya'll knew was coming that is not helpful. This is the system Loft was designing all along and is now implementing. There should be no surprises here.

 

Jason

 

It's true. It was announced in Sept 2012 that the single player game would allow the player to earn points to unlock mods, and that points awarded would vary according to realism settings. 

 

Telling the full story though, it was not stated 'all along' that players would have to unlock mods in single player mode, in order to use mods in multiplayer mode.

 

H

[kaboki]

Are they deserters?  They dont dress like ground crew.

 

Yep, deserting pilots that refuse to "grind" their way to have acces to better weapons and winter camo...

[dburne]

Ok so I have installed the new update, have gone in and remapped all my controls.

 

I will have a look at this new campaign, but am not very excited and not thinking it is going to be for me.

Mainly because, I do not want to play it on just either normal or expert settings. I prefer custom settings, like having full CEM control , but having icons on and exterior views on.

I also do not care anything about earning XP and unlocking things.

 

So as a single player, what will that leave me with - just using the QMB?

Fwiw, I really enjoyed flying the ROF beta career.

Edited October 4, 2014 by dburnette

[skline00]

I'm so bad it will take me a week of strafing the convoy to advance

 

BTW, if you look real close at the guy walking along the road, it's probably a picture of me thinking about the proper way to strafe a convoy!  

Edited October 4, 2014 by skline00

[heinkill]

Got throught the tutorial for the campaign quickly enough.  Currently flying the LaGG for my first career. 

 

I notice there is very little air and ground activity.  This tends to make the experience dull.   RoF's beta campaign also had the same problem.  Will the devs care comment on their ambitions for the future with this?

 

In Update 79 devs said there will be 'decoration' ie air and ground activity not related to your mission, but due to requests from players with older PCs (or limitations of the engine?) this would not be a lot, but be limited to 'something in the middle' with an ambition to increase it as PC specs improve. Isn't the number of aircraft/objects a known limitation of the RoF engine?

[LLv24_Zami]

I dont care about MP but it sounds a bit strange that they have to play SP to unlock items in MP.

 

And for the SP campaign there should definitely be Custom difficulty option avalaible.

 

[Saurer]

Well yes, but only using the loadouts and skins you have unlocked in campaign play.

 

Or just fly in normal and turn the Auto Engine Management off

Edited October 4, 2014 by Saurer

[snowsnipersnow_sniper]

 Isn't the number of aircraft/objects a known limitation of the RoF engine?

 

It could be a known limitation of ROF/BOS engine. and ROF/ FMB.   very little air and ground activity

does activity appears only when a player is just near ? ... 

Should be a hard issue for future MP 3rd party server  missions, if it is.

[Wandalen]

Crap! I cant even install the game, the new installer gives me a error :-(

 

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/11193-setup-files-are-corrupted/

[Matt]

It could be a known limitation of ROF/BOS engine. and ROF/ FMB. very little air and ground activity

does activity appears only when a player is just near ? ...

Should be a hard issue for future MP 3rd party server missions, if it is.

AAA appears and disappears, not sure about moving ground units, but at least trains don't seem to disappear.

 

I only flew a few La-5 missions and the number of planes and ground units was OK (I saw 16 planes and around 15 enemy ground units).

 

I skipped the tutorial by using autopilot and 16x time acceleration, that worked and too less than 10 minutes.

Edited October 4, 2014 by Matt

[kaboki]

Or just fly in normal and turn the Auto Engine Management off

 

Those settings are for planes that have automatic engine management implemented(as in the plane had that feature in real life) and you can choose to enable the manual settings. I don't think it works the way you think it does, you can't use those settings to switch between manual and auto in "normal" settings, those settings are only effective in expert mode on the planes that has this feature that is.

[dburne]

Or just fly in normal and turn the Auto Engine Management off

 

Not sure I understand how to do this, where exactly does one turn auto engine management off in Normal mode? When I start the campaign, just gives normal mode without a way to go into it to change anything?

[sallee]

Not a suggestion in the "I think it should be implemented" way, but I agree with novicebutdeadly in that way of making unlocks progressive but realistic. As I've said elsewhere, it would be great to start with a worn out aircraft and have more choice as you receive experience and promotions. In fact, I think I'd positively want unlocks of that sort!

[Saurer]

 

Those settings are for planes that have automatic engine management implemented(as in the plane had that feature in real life) and you can choose to enable the manual settings. I don't think it works the way you think it does, you can't use those settings to switch between manual and auto in "normal" settings, those settings are only effective in expert mode on the planes that has this feature that is.

 

 

No they are not, they are further down and are named "switch propeller contoll pitch mode / radiator controll auto/manuall" or something like that

 

 

Not sure I understand how to do this, where exactly does one turn auto engine management off in Normal mode? When I start the campaign, just gives normal mode without a way to go into it to change anything?

 

 

You do it ingame in the cockpit

Edited October 4, 2014 by Saurer

[kaboki]

 

No they are not, they are further down and are named "switch propeller contoll pitch mode / radiator controll auto/manuall" or something like that

 

 

Ah, sorry my bad, guess I learned something new today:p.

[dburne]

 

 

 

 

No they are not, they are further down and are named "switch propeller contoll pitch mode / radiator controll auto/manuall" or something like that

 

 

 

 

You do it ingame in the cockpit

 

 

Well I loaded up the first mission, and all I had was the green start button.

You say I should select start and I do this from within the cockpit?

 

So once I am in the cockpit, I am going to be able to set manual water radiator, manual oil radiator, manual prop pitch, manual mixture,  manual cowls?

Edited October 4, 2014 by dburnette

[buster_dee]

Hey!!  The good news; even though I'm an old fart, I now have a "young pilots certificate"!!

You restored my faith in forums.

[Saurer]

Well I loaded up the first mission, and all I had was the green start button.

You say I should select start and I do this from within the cockpit?

 

So once I am in the cockpit, I am going to be able to set manual water radiator, manual oil radiator, manual prop pitch, manual mixture,  manual cowls?

 

Yes exactlly, it is as if you would uncheck the Auto managment in the custom Difficulty Option in the QMB.

 

The added the option to switch off the RPM Limiter in the lst weeks update or so

[dburne]

Yes exactlly, it is as if you would uncheck the Auto managment in the custom Difficulty Option in the QMB.

 

The added the option to switch off the RPM Limiter in the lst weeks update or so

 

Sorry, I appreciate the assistance but guess I am either not awake enough yet or not bright enough, I am just not seeing it.

[AbortedMan]

Well I loaded up the first mission, and all I had was the green start button.

You say I should select start and I do this from within the cockpit?

 

So once I am in the cockpit, I am going to be able to set manual water radiator, manual oil radiator, manual prop pitch, manual mixture,  manual cowls?

There are keybindings in the controls menu that toggle automatic or manual controls for various systems (throttle (engine wear, basically), RPM, mixture, radiators). These buttons can only be used in normal mode where the AI assistance is enabled. I bound them all to one single key so I can turn them off in one fell swoop.

 

I highly suggest, with BoS and every new game you acquire, that the first thing you do before you start playing is give the options menu a good once over and especially focus on the keybindings options. You'll find a lot of answers that you'll have questions for are quickly answered by just looking at the list of buttons and taking note of any commands that seem different or unexpected.

[Saurer]

I guess its more my ability to explain things in english.

 

Try to load a mission on normal difficulty, press LShift+R, LShift+N, LShift+M (default contolls for that) and you should be able to controll Mixture, RPM, Radiators, Switch Prop Pitch to Manual on the 109/190 and so on.

[6S.Insuber]

Unfortunately the disabled ESC bug is still there.

[AbortedMan]

I guess its more my ability to explain things in english.

 

Try to load a mission on normal difficulty, press LShift+R, LShift+N, LShift+M (default contolls for that) and you should be able to controll Mixture, RPM, Radiators, Switch Prop Pitch to Manual on the 109/190 and so on.

Also note that the 109 manual pitch button toggle is different than the RPM (AI assistance) button toggle. They are two different functions and appropriately have two different keybinds. Also, the 109 prop pitch is not controlled by your propellor pitch axis...there are separate keybinds for the 109 airscrew pitch as well.

 

So to clarify you need to bind the following to enable manual prop pitch on the 109:

109: manual prop pitch enable

109: prop pitch up

109: prop pitch down

 

Paraphrasing the exact command nomenclature, but hopefully that clears it up before there's any confusion.

[dburne]

 

I highly suggest, with BoS and every new game you acquire, that the first thing you do before you start playing is give the options menu a good once over and especially focus on the keybindings options. You'll find a lot of answers that you'll have questions for are quickly answered by just looking at the list of buttons and taking note of any commands that seem different or unexpected.

 

Seriously?

 

I guess its more my ability to explain things in english.

 

Try to load a mission on normal difficulty, press LShift+R, LShift+N, LShift+M (default contolls for that) and you should be able to controll Mixture, RPM, Radiators, Switch Prop Pitch to Manual on the 109/190 and so on.

 

Thanks Saurer, I appreciate your helpful assistance.

I will give that a try, in hopes I can accomplish what I am trying to.

[snowsnipersnow_sniper]

first unlocked La-5 skins screenshots

 

 

 

[dburne]

I guess its more my ability to explain things in english.

 

Try to load a mission on normal difficulty, press LShift+R, LShift+N, LShift+M (default contolls for that) and you should be able to controll Mixture, RPM, Radiators, Switch Prop Pitch to Manual on the 109/190 and so on.

 

Are we talking strictly the German planes being able to do this?

I went into the control settings, and did see key commands for auto/manual on the prop pitch, and water radiator. ( did not see similar for oil or cowls).

 

So I started the first mission in the campaign, which is in the Lagg 3, and tried the right shift +p and right shift +r to switch to manual for prop pitch and water rad, but did not seem to have any effect, I still could not control those...

[Freycinet]

The amount of aggression by some  in here is astounding.

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Extreme_One, you mentioned that it seems to you they haven't done any market research. I disagree. The old crowd of simmers (the one which is hugely aggravated by unlocks, it seems) doesn't represent enough of a customer base to really thrive. With only that crowd a flight sim will remain in the "barely-surviving" bracket until the sponsors pull the plug.

It seems to me that 777 Studios is trying to attract new people: let's call them the Warthunder crowd to simplify it. Huge potential customer base. With BoS they want to attract the ones who have played Warthunder for a while and now want to move on, delve deeper into flightsimming, try more realism physics-wise and historically.

I applaud the developers for trying something new to increase the attraction of the genre, while at the same time staying true to hi-fidelity flight simming. Their sim oozes both professionalism and a huge love for flightsimming which is quite remarkable. If they manage to bring in a new generation of simmers it will be a huge accomplishment and the salvation of the realistic combat flight sim as a genre.

There is a new world of virtual reality flightsimming just around the corner, with Oculus Rift etc, and that together with a sleek, bug-free, smooth-functioning, modern-looking sim may just bring nirvana to simmers and developers alike. BoS is our best bet for that and it's a great bet as well, because of the dedicated and talented team working on it.

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Oh, and BTW, Stalin wasn't Russian.

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Edited October 4, 2014 by SYN_Haashashin
removed offensive sentences

[von_Greiff]

I like it! A little bug here, a little error there...but all in all, even like the sp-capaign, gives me time to get used to the sim and set every little key set up right, before it gets to the real online-nittygritty....

 

@Zak....u mentioned "name change" mostly possible, maybe tuesbday....

 

BTW...unlocks weapons/equip./skins, everything works fine here

 

v.Greiff

[Saurer]

Are we talking strictly the German planes being able to do this?

I went into the control settings, and did see key commands for auto/manual on the prop pitch, and water radiator. ( did not see similar for oil or cowls).

 

So I started the first mission in the campaign, which is in the Lagg 3, and tried the right shift +p and right shift +r to switch to manual for prop pitch and water rad, but did not seem to have any effect, I still could not control those...

 

 

You need to set up the first tree controlls under Engine Management :

 

 

 

 

automatic mixture and supercharger controlls

automatic Radiator controlls

automatic RPM limiter

 

If you switch these three of you have access to full engine management in Normal.

They are not plane specific 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Prop Pitch on the 190/109 and the water Radiator no the 109 is still automatic as it was in reality. 

To controll these manually you need the Controlls:

 

 

These work only if you have full engine management on

Edited October 4, 2014 by Saurer

[CisTer-dB-]

One quick question and I am sorry if it was answered before but, will we be able to join or merge it with the Steam version? 

[kaboki]

The amount of aggression by some in here is astounding.

 

 

hmmm dunno, from what I can see in this thread the agression is more from the fanboys getting insulted by people who is not happy with the unlock system. If someone complains they get accused for being kids, immature, trolls, or having to little sex or other personal attacks....

Edited October 4, 2014 by SYN_Haashashin
answered an edited post

[t4trouble]

This is my choice, I will not grind offline so i can use the UNLOCKS in MP, i shall move on.

[SYN_Haashashin]

hmmm dunno, from what I can see in this thread the agression is more from the fanboys getting insulted by people who is not happy with the unlock system. If someone complains they get accused for being kids, immature, trolls, or having to little sex or other personal attacks....

 

Please if you see any kind of personal attacks, report it but do not answer to it.

[Vandal]

Why can't we simply get a steam key?  I hate these launchers.  I think I'll just wait until the official release and play it then.

Edited October 4, 2014 by SYN_Haashashin

[SYN_Haashashin]

Why can't we simply get a steam key?  I hate these launchers.

 

Because is Valve decision. They have change their policie about the transfer of keys bought outside of Steam, at least with some games.

[dburne]

You need to set up the first tree controlls under Engine Management :

 

 

 

 

Saurer, you da man - thank you so much!!

Kind of a pitb to have to do this each time I start a mission, but it does accomplish what I want to accomplish.

 

I sure do wish for us single players, who just want to fly the campaign, it would have been much nicer and easier to allow us to adjust this in the settings menu, rather than having to toggle them off with each mission - but at least now I know I can continue to control my engines how I want when flying the campaign under Normal settings...

 

Thanks again, I really appreciate your patience in explaining that to me.

[Saurer]

Saurer, you da man - thank you so much!!

Kind of a pitb to have to do this each time I start a mission, but it does accomplish what I want to accomplish.

 

I sure do wish for us single players, who just want to fly the campaign, it would have been much nicer and easier to allow us to adjust this in the settings menu, rather than having to toggle them off with each mission - but at least now I know I can continue to control my engines how I want when flying the campaign under Normal settings...

 

Thanks again, I really appreciate your patience in explaining that to me.

 

 

No problem, not at all i'm happy that you got it working

 

You could bind these three controlls to one key to do all at once, but the option in the menu would be great

[Voidhunger]

Is it possible to have all loadout and skins unlocked in QMB?

I dont want to play this unfortunate campaign and all is locked in QMB.

[dburne]

No problem, not at all i'm happy that you got it working

 

You could bind these three controlls to one key to do all at once, but the option in the menu would be great

 

Good idea, I think I will just go assign all three to one of my HOTAS buttons as well.

 

Thanks,