BigMotor Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Sorry, I'm a little late to the dogfight, but what do you gain by being able to use your key on Steam?
dburne Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Sorry, I'm a little late to the dogfight, but what do you gain by being able to use your key on Steam? For those that prefer to run their games from the Steam library.
Nonolem Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 Something I don't understand : why do so many want to add their game on their Steam account?I have some games on my Steam account, and some other games not. The fact is... I really don't care about it... I see no advantage or disadvantage to have a game on my account or not... As long as everything is working, it's my only concern. 1
Nonolem Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 With Steam managing your games you only need to remember one Username and Password. You only need to install one client and then on any PC you own, now or in the future, you can install any of your games. Steam handles the updating and patching of games automatically. Steam also tracks the hours spent playing each game, if that's a statistic you'd enjoy knowing. Many people, myself included, will choose a Steam version of a game over other versions for all the above reasons and more ... Your second point apply also to BoS, or RoF, without Steam. I think that the others are not very important. Anyway, of course, gamers are free to prefer whatever they want... As long as the two versions of the game are identical (and they are).
-NW-ChiefRedCloud Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 Chief, i thought if you bought on Steam you'd have to get any additional DLC thru Steam and if you bought here you'd have to get additional DLC here.. That's what I thought too OneEye but I haven't seen anything confirming this. p.s. I saw you and Jim in Chucks video ..... You guys did good ... enjoyed watching Chief
JimTM Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 That's what I thought too OneEye but I haven't seen anything confirming this. p.s. I saw you and Jim in Chucks video ..... You guys did good ... enjoyed watching Chief Thanks Chief, it was a lot of fun flying with Chuck, Dog, and Basher (gunning for Dog, but not in the credits because he wanted too much money). :-) Kind of reminded me of the old Saturday ROF bomber nights on New Wings. Salut!
Chuck_Owl Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 I completely forgot about Basher! Sorry about that...
[JG2]douchey Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Another vote to allow me to migrate my game ownership to Steam. Lots of games have done it before, and it is in Steam's interest since DLC's from that point on would be purchased from within Steam. Technically, I suppose WT allowed it as well by moving a couple folders around, but you still have to go to the launcher for updates. BUT... DLC works without trying to paypal the Bratva through xsolla. Plus, I think it would cut down on some of the frontend stuff that the IL2 developers have to do. Just rent some amazon servers for the games and the updates, and let steam do the patching while people sleep.
LizLemon Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Another vote to allow me to migrate my game ownership to Steam. Lots of games have done it before, and it is in Steam's interest since DLC's from that point on would be purchased from within Steam. Technically, I suppose WT allowed it as well by moving a couple folders around, but you still have to go to the launcher for updates. BUT... DLC works without trying to paypal the Bratva through xsolla. Plus, I think it would cut down on some of the frontend stuff that the IL2 developers have to do. Just rent some amazon servers for the games and the updates, and let steam do the patching while people sleep. They already rent amazon servers for the game and updates. But letting us activate the game on steam like other titles do would be a great thing. The download speeds I get when updating the game now can best be described as better then dial-up. Yet patches from steam max out my connection.
=SIM=Ruttley Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I heard that on top of the 190 A3 and the LA5, owners of the expensive edtn. would get more exclusive planes as they release. Is this true, and will owners of the steam deluxe edtn. get these if so?
FuriousMeow Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Negative. Everyone has to pay for new planes. 1
=SIM=Ruttley Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Negative. Everyone has to pay for new planes. So there's no difference in what's included in the Steam version and the version purchased from this site?
FuriousMeow Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Well, yes, except the Steam related parts. Version from here can work with Steam overlay, but not the rest of Steam. Steam version has larger patches because its Steam, and there's a potential for delayed patches on Steam because it is Steam. 1
RainMan Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 and there's a potential for delayed patches on Steam because it is Steam. There's no delay in patches from what I noticed with my Steam version of BoS (can easily verify from the forum messages of "downloading now" compared to my Steam client updating the game at the same time). 1
=SIM=Ruttley Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Well, yes, except the Steam related parts. Version from here can work with Steam overlay, but not the rest of Steam. Steam version has larger patches because its Steam, and there's a potential for delayed patches on Steam because it is Steam. Ok, thanks for the replies
FuriousMeow Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) There's no delay in patches from what I noticed with my Steam version of BoS (can easily verify from the forum messages of "downloading now" compared to my Steam client updating the game at the same time). I have other titles on Steam, and there have been delays with getting patches vs direct from devs. So there is that. Edited September 9, 2014 by FuriousMeow
VoodooShark Posted September 10, 2014 Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) As in ROF you can purchase the base version and then log in with your existing account.(maybe wait until it's 75% off) Other than that you're stuck with the non steam version. the reasoning behind valve's decision is likely that they don't get a cut but still have to provide server capacity for installs and patching. So they would only lose money by doing so. One solution would be that 1c pays valve for their services but i guess they prefer to keep that money for renting server capacity from Amazon. Edited September 10, 2014 by VoodooShark
marklar Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) I have other titles on Steam, and there have been delays with getting patches vs direct from devs. So there is that. You changed this setting for all your Steam games, did not you? . Can someone explain why BoS won't appear on my Steam profile? When I check my "Recent Game Activity" page BoS is not there. Also when adding a video there is an option to associate it with the game but again BoS is not on the list. There is IL2 1946, IL2 CloD but not BoS. Edited September 12, 2014 by marklar
Ojisan_Dog Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 S~ not finished reading all this but i wanted to stop and say hello to some of my old best enemies... csThor and Siggi S~ fellas good to see familiar names here. if i overlook any of the old crowd i apologize. i have a good memory somewhat although me eyes ain't so good anymore. and if i have to jog your memories... we met and flown against each other back when IL2 was STILL a BETA by Oleg. stopped flying for about 9 yrs or so now but want to fly again. i bought Cliffs but it was rather dismal at launch with the bugs and such. but i am back for another go. oh... i was also known as Ojisan_Dog back in Hyperlobby
pencon Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 My friend just bought his version off steam not knowing that we can't fly against each other online . We're both not too impressed with this scenario. Steam should give a refund to people so they can buy the game off 777 instead . OR let us use our key numbers .
SYN_Bandy Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Gawd I hate steam... Reminds me of the ticketmaster monopoly of my youth...
Mikey Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I have steam but it really pisses me off. Especially when you buy a game from steam then come to find out you have to install uplay to play that game you bought from steam. Steam is intrusive and i prefer supporting the people who make the games rather then the walmart of pc games who like to take a big chunk out of the devs paycheck.
Zak Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I have steam but it really pisses me off. Especially when you buy a game from steam then come to find out you have to install uplay to play that game you bought from steam. Steam is intrusive and i prefer supporting the people who make the games rather then the walmart of pc games who like to take a big chunk out of the devs paycheck. A really big chunk by the way. Thank you. 1
SvAF/F19_Klunk Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 I took the time to read the majority of gamer's reviews that has been written so far on steam, and there are some people who really have done an excellent job; lots of examples and in-.depth. What struck me though is that hardly none of the negative reviews had any substance whatsoever; all very short and either they reviewed the game based on the registration process alone (no mention whatsoever about the actual game).. or some hateful comments based on less than 1 hr gameplay. No substance whatsoever! I would suggest to STEAM that they should NOT allow members to write a review if they haven't spent at least 6hrs or so with the game itself. Reviews are meant for HELPING others in the steam community to make decisions wheather to buy a product or not. rediculous! 1
mudpuppy Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) I would suggest to STEAM that they should NOT allow members to write a review if they haven't spent at least 6hrs or so with the game itself. Reviews are meant for HELPING others in the steam community to make decisions wheather to buy a product or not. I'd like to see that happen. Not sure how they'd manage that that but it does seem possible. Edited September 24, 2014 by mudpuppy
marklar Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 You should rather ask why people give bad reviews in first place. Why other games don't have so many negative reviews? They were also reviewed by gamers with less than 1h playing time. Wasteland 2 > 89% good - 11% bad XCOM > 97% good - 3% bad BoS > 78% good - 22% bad CloD > 71% good - 29% bad.
SvAF/F19_Klunk Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Marklar, that doesn't make sense. You cannot make any assumptions about statistics based on less than 100 reviews of BoS. Rule nr in in statistics; to make any reasonable conclusion based on statistics and number, 43 is far from enough. Besides, we are talking about a game that isnt even finished or released.. U cannot compared it with ie Xcom, a finished game that has been on the market for a long time.... Humbug!! I suggest u take a look on the handful of negative reviews ( not more than 10) and u will find that most of them gave it a negative review Only because of the registration process.. not the game in itself... So... Try again..your conclusion is just plain silly Edited September 24, 2014 by SvAF_Klunk
Vaxxtx Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Marklar, that doesn't make sense. You cannot make any assumptions about statistics based on less than 100 reviews of BoS. Rule nr in in statistics; to make any reasonable conclusion based on statistics and number, 43 is far from enough. Besides, we are talking about a game that isnt even finished or released.. U cannot compared it with ie Xcom, a finished game that has been on the market for a long time.... Humbug!! I suggest u take a look on the handful of negative reviews ( not more than 10) and u will find that most of them gave it a negative review Only because of the registration process.. not the game in itself... So... Try again..your conclusion is just plain silly IF registration and having to be "conncted" to a server is part of the process to play a game, it is part of the review. EA are subject to reviews as well on Steam. If a dev puts a game on steam in EA, they are aware of it, and people are reviewing the EA state of the game, and can change the review after release. Not sure what the problem is. Edited September 24, 2014 by Vaxxtx 1
marklar Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 So why do you bother with these reviews at all if they are unreliable? Moreover you want to block people with less than 6h with the game. Registration process is also part of this game and it can affect one's experience. If devs paid more attention to the image of their product they would sort it already by adding appropriate information on the login screen. I had problem with activation as well but managed to sort it out myself.
Vaxxtx Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 I bought the most amazing pair of headphones the other day - sound quality superb, look great, but the packaging was horrendous. It took me almost ten minutes whilst I tried to open the packaging, I ended up using a pair of scissors. 1* Rubbish Reviews from random people are often valueless. Do you have open the package EVERY time you use them? If so, I agree, rubbish. Again, packaging, box art, documentation, interace, is still part of a review. So in the case of your headphones, if you got upset with the packaging, and tossed them out and bought another brand with better packaging than obviously you cared for the packaging more. Nothing wrong with that....thats what is important to YOU.
marklar Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 Reviews from random people are often valueless. But they still affect the overall score. It's not shown yet on the store page but it will be once BoS is released.
Vaxxtx Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 Do people need to register their BoS game every time they play it through Steam? No, I didn't think so. Nope, but you have to "connect" to play most of the game.....again there are lots of people who dont like that.
Ravenravenshadows78 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Is it possible for a dev to give us a concrete explanation as to why, when or if alpha purchasers of this game will be able to recieve a steam key? The lack of solid information in regard this topic is disappointing. I will reinstall the game again as I don't have a steam version, just to update it.
SYN_Mike77 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 the steam key thing is a valve/steam decision, it's not up to 777 to decide. 1
StarLightSong Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I'm expecting to have some avenue to play the steam verison given we were onboard so early on - prior to release. Of course it can be done. I've purchased steam ROF keys for for $5 on a legit game auction site which bundles indie games with a few established games. So maybe some nominal payment. The hub for mods that Steam provides for some games is very modern, as in 15 years past the millenium, let's have something new and community based via the social internet. Skyrim's workshop is sometimes adolescent and creepy but very functional. Right now with a 90Kbs Northern connection I'll be stuck flying single player untill Xmas.
Yakmaster Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 It seams if you ask for steam key youll get it, this guy on youtube vid is saying hes recived steam key from them even though he didnt buy it on steam but buy it on web page so it seams they can solve this problem and all are happy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHUpNUVXBc4#t=639
wuffman Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Not sure where to post this, but I am locked on the first mission of the campaign. I crashed on my first flight after completing the task ( kill the 109 ), but it did not unlock the bombs required for the next mission. Now the second mission defaults to an error message about weapons mod not being unlocked for this account. Is there anyway to restart the campaign, as I cannot redo the first one?
SYN_Haashashin Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Dont think so wuffman, but devs allready said its a known bug and will be solved very soon.
wuffman Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Dont think so wuffman, but devs allready said its a known bug and will be solved very soon. Thx for your prompt reply, now I know I did not just break my game, lol! Do you know if flying single mission do anything towards unlocking mods for campaign? Might be a workaround...
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