Zeev Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Hello. I am interested in this game. As I understand it is still in development. I am mostly a single player person, Will I enjoy Battle of Stalingrad if I buy the game NOW? Also, is there any gameplay videos of the most updated build of this game? Thanks!
Finkeren Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 QMB offers a good dealof variety, and release with the campaign mode is about a month away (fingers crossed) I say get it now.
Zeev Posted August 15, 2014 Author Posted August 15, 2014 Remember that I am new to the game What is QMB?
Zeev Posted August 15, 2014 Author Posted August 15, 2014 Thanks Voidhunger.Finkeren, I like your sig Last question: Is there other digital version than steam, and which one you suggest me to buy?
pilotpierre Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Zeev, go for it. QMB will give you plenty of practice for the campaign when the game is released. Edited. Personally i like the non steam version that can be purchased on this site. Edited August 15, 2014 by pilotpierre
Brano Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Quick Mission Builder.You can setup basic scenarios like 1 vs 1,2 vs 2,2 vs 4 etc.Mix it with fighters or bombers with different experience (novice,average,veteran,ace).Set up weather and daytime (morning,noon,evening,night etc.) different airfield,ground units (tanks,AAA,vehicles,trains). For videos,just visit this thread http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/61-fan-videos/ Or just hunt them down on Youtube To buy the game,just visit mainpage store and decide for standard or premium http://il2sturmovik.com/store/ Edited August 15, 2014 by Brano
StG2_zulu354 Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 With the Quick Mission Builder (QMB) you can easily make your own mission. But they are - in my oponion - not that deep. Actually I wouldn't recommend the game for SinglePlayer only. But with the release of the campaignmode that can change quickly. QMB is good for training saissions. You can buy it on Steam or directly on the homepage. While buying the Deluxe version you get 2 planes (La-5, FW-190) extra. Otherwise you have to buy them for about 20 funds in the store. Wich one you should use, I can't say. But properly I would buy the game on the homepage. 1
216th_Jordan Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Remember that I am new to the game What is QMB? Its the Quick Mission Builder It lets you set up quick missions with airstart and configurations of up to 16 planes + groundforces as trains, tanks, artillery, flak etc. plus weather and time...
Blooddawn1942 Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 I never got bored playing with the QMB. Even if it delivers not such an immersive experience like a campaign or a good singlemission, there is lot to do. And it is the best way to make yourself with the planes and the game familiar until the campaign mode is unleashed upon us singleplayers. If You are familiar with flightsims , there is absolutely no reason to not buy BoS.
Zeev Posted August 15, 2014 Author Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) With the Quick Mission Builder (QMB) you can easily make your own mission. But they are - in my oponion - not that deep. Actually I wouldn't recommend the game for SinglePlayer only. But with the release of the campaignmode that can change quickly. QMB is good for training saissions. You can buy it on Steam or directly on the homepage. While buying the Deluxe version you get 2 planes (La-5, FW-190) extra. Otherwise you have to buy them for about 20 funds in the store. Wich one you should use, I can't say. But properly I would buy the game on the homepage. How many planes do you have if you buy the standard edition? and why did they release the 2 for extra price? 20$ each I never got bored playing with the QMB. Even if it delivers not such an immersive experience like a campaign or a good singlemission, there is lot to do. And it is the best way to make yourself with the planes and the game familiar until the campaign mode is unleashed upon us singleplayers. If You are familiar with flightsims , there is absolutely no reason to not buy BoS. Is it much better than Cliffs of Dover? Edited August 15, 2014 by Zeev
Finkeren Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 How many planes do you have if you buy the standard edition? and why did they release the 2 for extra price? 20$ each Is it much better than Cliffs of Dover? To answer the last first: It's a very open question wich of the 2 sims is 'better' they both have their strong and weak points, but consider that ClOD is now a fully developed sim after years of dedicated work by Team Fusion, while BoS is still in development. About the different versions: Standard edition comes with 8 planes (Bf 109 F4 and G2, Ju 87, He 111, LaGG-3, Yak-1, IL-2 and Pe-2) Premium Edition has two extra fighters (Fw 190 and La-5) The reason they can be purchased is to allow buyers of the Standard Edition to get all planes eventually (the total price is the same as for Premium) however, they won't get the extra "eye candy" in the form of a Golden bar under their forum name and other such nonsense
Blooddawn1942 Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 The QMB is a mighty tool compared to the singleplayer content CloD delivers.For the Game in general...well. That is a matter of Taste. I've spend a lot of time with CloD. And with the team Fusion patch it shows all its potential. CloD has slightly deeper systemsimualtion and really nice Cockpits. And for the price its unbeatable. But there is a serious lack of singleplayer content unless You purchase the Desastersoft add ons. To make a long story short, for every dedicated flightsim enthusiast BoS is in my opinion a must have. Even in its unfinished state. (Along with CloD and DCS and RoF)
Finkeren Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 The QMB is a mighty tool compared to the singleplayer content CloD delivers.For the Game in general...well. That is a matter of Taste. I've spend a lot of time with CloD. And with the team Fusion patch it shows all its potential. CloD has slightly deeper systemsimualtion and really nice Cockpits. And for the price its unbeatable. But there is a serious lack of singleplayer content unless You purchase the Desastersoft add ons. To make a long story short, for every dedicated flightsim enthusiast BoS is in my opinion a must have. Even in its unfinished state. (Along with CloD and DCS and RoF) I concur. This is a fair and accurate describtion. I'd like to add though, that the Digital Nature Engine of RoF abd BoS offers a very unique 'feeling' of flight that can't be properly described but has to be experienced. Both sims also have IMHO the best harmonised graphics, where all elements seem to fit together in a way that neither ClOD nor DCS can deliver, even if their cockpits are better done.
Blooddawn1942 Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Yes. Absolutely! That thing I was just going to add to my post. The feeling of flight that BoS and RoF delivers is absolutely second to none!
Finkeren Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 You should also be aware, that BoS is still a sim in development and therefore have some graphical glitches (most seriously the way objects are rendered against a cloudy background) as well as some FM anomalies (mostly centered around the German fighters that are trimmed by way of an adjustable horizontal stabiliser) Nothing that breaks the game, the overall experience is still the most flight simming fun you can have atm.
SharpeXB Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Rise of Flight has extremely good SP mode almost to the detriment of MP. SP is almost certainly the most popular game mode there. It has a "Beta Career" which is a never ending (800 days worth) of missions and another Career Mode by Pat Wilson which is amazing. So hopefully BoS follows in the same path. Cliffs of Dover has really slim SP unless you buy Desastersoft Campaigns which are really good but I fear are no longer being sold. I could be wrong but I can't find them online anymore. Single Player is really the best immersive and realistic mode for flight sims IMO so that's where most of the effort should go in developing the game. Hopefully BoS ends up similar to RoF.
dburne Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Rise of Flight has extremely good SP mode almost to the detriment of MP. SP is almost certainly the most popular game mode there. It has a "Beta Career" which is a never ending (800 days worth) of missions and another Career Mode by Pat Wilson which is amazing. So hopefully BoS follows in the same path. Cliffs of Dover has really slim SP unless you buy Desastersoft Campaigns which are really good but I fear are no longer being sold. I could be wrong but I can't find them online anymore. Single Player is really the best immersive and realistic mode for flight sims IMO so that's where most of the effort should go in developing the game. Hopefully BoS ends up similar to RoF. Agreed on the ROF SP mode, and I also do hope we get similar for BOS. Re: Cliffs of Dover, it having hardly anything in SP has been mentioned a couple of times , so I thought I would just point out - there are several sets of SP Missions and also Campaigns done by some fine folks like Bolox, Heinkill, and others, that are extremely good. Most are hosted over at airwarfare.com, a search for offline campaigns for Cliffs of Dover there will turn up quite a few. They even redid the stock campaigns to where they are now very , very good.Some are mentioned here in the Other 1C Games forum. If BOS ends up similar to ROF for us single player guys, I will be extremely happy. Right now I have not even launched it in the last several weeks, as I await for some more SP content.
Gambit21 Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 and another Career Mode by Pat Wilson which is amazing. All this time and I still haven't tried PW's career. I might have to give it a go.
KodiakJac Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 RoF, when combined with PWCG, is IMO the best combat flight sim ever created. It is my hope that BoS will get there someday, whether through an IL-2 1946 style FMB or a PWCG style campaign manager. In either case unlimited content is easily generated. BoS has the graphics and FM chops, now it just needs a content generator to become world class. Fingers crossed!
LizLemon Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 IMHO as an SP sim BoS just isn't there yet. Many above have mentioned the QMB, but this just can not compare to well done SP missions and what people can do with a FMB. They are all very straightforward in nature, with no surprises or that special feeling of real, chaotic combat. Hopefully this will all change when the SP campaign is finally available, which should be around launch. Until then there isn't any real depth for the SP player. Also keep in mind that playing SP will be required in order to unlock modifications for aircraft. How this experience point rpg (or even war thunder) style system will be implemented remains to be seen.
Zeev Posted August 16, 2014 Author Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) I have a question regarding the bonus aircrafts that you can buy with the premium version of the game (90$). Is it just skins or a whole new aircraft like in DCS? Edited August 16, 2014 by Zeev
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 I have a question regarding the bonus aircrafts that you can buy with the premium version of the game (90$). Is it just skins or a whole new aircraft like in DCS? They have their own well defined flight models, giving them very definite strengths and weaknesses.
Zeev Posted August 16, 2014 Author Posted August 16, 2014 They have their own well defined flight models, giving them very definite strengths and weaknesses. So is this game will be like Rise of Flight, that every new aircraft will cost you money?
Phant0m Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 Yes, and no. I doubt you will get free planes but the model they are going for was a hybrid between ROF and IL2. Most interpret that to mean you would buy expansions which had maps, theatres and planes but they might also have a couple of rare or interesting planes to be purchased separately (like the la-5 and FW190). This is contingent on them having the funds to develop said expansion.
Picchio Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) Referring to the now in your question, my answer would be no: I would advise you to be patient and wait until the single-player Campaign mode comes out - the Quick Mission Builder is fun but unless you're very fond of multi-player (which I'll leave for someone else to discuss), I think it can only offer a glimpse of the single-player portion, and perhaps of the entire game. Nontheless, here you have the chance to get familiar with this sim's portray of WWII aircraft and its chosen theatre of war: although the taste of it is no less than marvelous, many could agree that what we have now is an appetizer. Quite an appetizer of course, but it would only be in a Campaign mode that all of this could find its most interesting application. Regarding the comparison with CloD, it would be quite unfair to call it fully developed, so I think that no real comparison can be made: CloD's own single-player still has serious and foundamental lacks. Edited August 16, 2014 by Picchio
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