Halon Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 You can keep your realistic likelihoods to yourself... Here's what I would love to see in an ideal world TB-3 I-153 TU-2 Lancaster Short Sterling Swordfish Avenger (FAA Colours) Wildcat (FAA Colours) B-17 CR.32 CR.42 Falco SM.79 Sparviero Ki-61 Hien
BlitzPig_EL Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 OK I'll play. Curtiss Hawk III Hawk 75 P40B P40N Brewster Buffalo P51A Ki 27 Ki 43 Ki 84 Ki 61 A5M A6M 2N H8K PBY F4F FM2 CR 42 Mc 200 Hs 123 I 153 Gloster Gladiator D 520
Eisvogel Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 6 hours ago, sevenless said: Yes. It was called Ju-88 S0, S1 and S2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_88#Ju_88S Ju 88S[edit] High-speed bomber series based on Ju 88 A-4 but with ventral Bola gondola omitted, smoothly glazed nose with radial-ribbed supports instead of the "beetle's eye" of the A-version, and GM-1nitrous-oxide boost, fastest of all variants. Ju 88 S-0 Fitted with two BMW 801 G-2 engines, single 13 mm (0.512 in) dorsal gun and 14 SD65 65 kg (143 lb) bombs. Ju 88 S-1 Fitted with two BMW 801 G-2 engines, the GM-1 boost system and could carry two SD1000 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) bombs externally. Ju 88 S-2 Fitted with two turbocharged BMW 801J engines, wooden bomb bay extension as used on the Ju 88 A-15. Ju 88 S-3 Fitted with two 1,671 kW (2,241 hp) Jumo 213A engines and GM-1 boost system. http://www.aviation-history.com/junkers/ju88.html Hi, a little correction : indeed the S variant was the fastest of the 88, however it seems only the S-1 used GM-1 operationnaly, S- 0, S-2 was only prototypes and S-3 was probably the fastest of them (even without GM1) with 600 km/h at ~6000m with combat power in clean configuration from obscure estimations and different sources. I don't recall exactly the numbers but the S-1 was only an Umbau of other 88 with less than 100 made from 1943 to 1944 and about 300 S-3 were delivered from July to august 1944 to mainly KG66 and LG1 I would love more 88 (and 188, 217) variants so many forgotten variants for this beauty... 1 2
Rjel Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) A show of hands. Who didn’t crack open a copy of Janes or another encyclopedic book with obscure WWII aircraft to list as a way to impress everyone with your knowledge? In any case, I’ll take one of these - Edited November 15, 2022 by Rjel Spelling
CountZero Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rjel said: A show of hands. Who didn’t crack open a copy of Janes or another encyclopedic book with obscure WWII aircraft to list as a way to impress everyone with your knowledge? In any case, I’ll take one of these - When your home town airplane factory have to mutch scrap and your bored, you make this legendary airplane.
Rjel Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 If I remember correctly, it was built by Goodyear with the idea of it being used as a way to transport fuel.
CountZero Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Rjel said: If I remember correctly, it was built by Goodyear with the idea of it being used as a way to transport fuel. Didnt know, to me it just looked like there was extra parts of airplanes, of many differant production airplanes , and they just decided to merge them together into that ? Edited November 15, 2022 by CountZero
BlitzPig_EL Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 Jane's, I don't need no stinking Jane's man!! ? 1
Rjel Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said: Jane's, I don't need no stinking Jane's man!! ? Me either. While I’m not an aviation expert, I play one on the forums. Edited November 15, 2022 by Rjel #%\&$@“#%
Gambit21 Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Rjel said: A show of hands. Who didn’t crack open a copy of Janes or another encyclopedic book with obscure WWII aircraft to list as a way to impress everyone with your knowledge? In any case, I’ll take one of these - ‘raises hand’ Don’t need it. Aside from all the Zero’s and P-40’s and Oscars H8K Emily. PBY Jake Mavis Pete A6m2-N Rufe of course.
BMA_FlyingShark Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) Noorduyn Norseman. Ford Trimotor. Curtis C-46. Fokker DVII aü. Have a nice day. Edited November 15, 2022 by FlyingShark
Bremspropeller Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said: It actually fought tempests and spitfires so they could put a squadron on the Bodenplatte map It fought way outside of the boundaries of that map, though. Now, if we had a "Berlin map"... I find it hard to narrow the amount of desired collector planes down to a handy list - almost too many aircraft to count them all.
Rjel Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 36 minutes ago, Gambit21 said: ‘raises hand’ Don’t need it. Aside from all the Zero’s and P-40’s and Oscars H8K Emily. PBY Jake Mavis Pete A6m2-N Rufe of course. What was the name of the Japanese tri motor bomber??? I remember now. The Marsha, Marsha, Marsha bomber.
SqueakyS Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 Mine would be Do 17 Ar 196 Beaufort Planes I would love to see but can't imagine they will ever be implemented. 1
dbuile Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 I might be weird, but: Ar 196 He 115 Do 17Z Bf 110 G4 night fighter with realistic radar scopes and radio navigation... like I said, maybe weird, but I wish I could act as Bordfunker. And planes to leisurely fly around in: He 70 Blitz Some kind of trainer like Buecker Jungmann Maybe a Fw 56 Ta 154 Moskito
MAJ_stug41 Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 GIMME GIMME GIMME a nightfighter after midnight, and all the radar mechanics that go with iiiit!
oc2209 Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 This isn't a suggestion thread. It's a general discussion thread. I don't see why it had to be dumped in this part of the forum so quickly. As if so much else is going on in the main page aside from whining about the lack of communication regarding the next DLC. Anyway... 4 hours ago, Rjel said: A show of hands. Who didn’t crack open a copy of Janes or another encyclopedic book with obscure WWII aircraft to list as a way to impress everyone with your knowledge? I own a Janes, but to be honest, I haven't looked at it since I was like 15. Once you get hardcore about aviation, the details just aren't complete enough in most cases. I didn't include any Pacific stuff in my list, since that would probably double the length of it. Oh, and I completely forgot Italian planes. What I came up with was truly just off the top of my head without getting into the nitty-gritty.
DerRechtsanwalt Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 Ju-188 B-26 Marauder Do-17Z FW200 Condor B-17E/F/G B-24 Liberator FW-189
oc2209 Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 2 hours ago, dbuile said: And planes to leisurely fly around in: He 70 Blitz Some kind of trainer like Buecker Jungmann Yeah, there's no need to be confined to combat planes, really. I like the thought of flying advanced gliders, for instance. Unfortunately, to be accurate, that would require more complex thermal and wind mechanics.
AndyJWest Posted November 16, 2022 Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Charon said: Torpedo Bombing? Yeah, I'd like to see a source for that. And a photo of the groove they cut in the runway to get it to work... Quick bodge to show the problem. I think I've got the scale about right. The MK XII torpedo (as used with the Swordfish etc) was 16 ft 3 in long. The Gladiator was 27 ft 5 inches. Edited November 16, 2022 by AndyJWest
FliegerAD Posted November 16, 2022 Posted November 16, 2022 I sure want the Ju 88S series would be a great addition too, although this thread is focussed on the best destroyer variant of the Ju 88. ...well, arguably. I personally would prefer the C-5 which was the fastest destroyer but the R-2 was historically just more important. Add the Beaufighter as an opponent and we can recreate some fierce 1943 battles of the Bay of Biscay. 3
IckyATLAS Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) On 11/16/2022 at 5:31 AM, AndyJWest said: Yeah, I'd like to see a source for that. And a photo of the groove they cut in the runway to get it to work... Quick bodge to show the problem. I think I've got the scale about right. The MK XII torpedo (as used with the Swordfish etc) was 16 ft 3 in long. The Gladiator was 27 ft 5 inches. You are absolutely right. It is my mistake. I mentioned the Gloster Gladiator, but for torpedo bombing it is the Fairey Swordfish. So here no escape for the devs, we need both planes ? I just changed the Title of the post to make things straight. Edited November 17, 2022 by IckyATLAS
Nickkyboy99 Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 The Gloster Meteor would be a good Normandy/Bodenplatte collector. It could be used in the Normandy career starting from the Battle of Caen and Saint-Lo phase. Historically, in late July 1944, the No. 616 Squadron and its seven Meteors were stationed at Manston airfield (an existing airfield in the game, just north of Dover). Its main task would be to locate and intercept V-1 rockets. In the Bodenplatte career, Meteors were stationed in the Netherlands and flew armed reconnaissance and ground attack sorties. It'd definitely sell really well; I mean... who wouldn't want to buy it?? I can already imagine Me 262 v Meteor dogfights in MP. Gloster Meteor F Mark I of No. 616 Squadron RAF in flight over the countryside between West Hougham and Dover, 1944-45 2 1 10
56RAF_Stickz Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 god I worked on 2 of those at Brawdy in the 70s, dont think I'd buy it so I dont have to remember each time how old it makes me 2
JV69badatflyski Posted November 19, 2022 Posted November 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Nickkyboy99 said: It'd definitely sell really well; I mean... who wouldn't want to buy it?? I can already imagine Me 262 v Meteor dogfights in MP. Nobody... Can just point to the right direction where everything is explained: (it's a very good read btw!)http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/meteor/Meteor-CFE.pdf This plane would be just a target for the schwalbe, not even a close threat. Ps: there were only 2or3 on the continent, based in Brussels and flew only recco mission on the front line, never above the ennemy territory. 3
56RAF_Stickz Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 in Jan 45 4 of 616 went to Melsbroek and in March the whole squadron moved over to Gilze Rijen (12-15 aircraft). As thunderbolts, p51s and tempests were a threat to an me262, the faster meteor would also be a threat. And I guess you would never ever fly an i-16 either for same reason.
1CGS LukeFF Posted November 20, 2022 1CGS Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, JV69badatflyski said: Ps: there were only 2or3 on the continent, based in Brussels and flew only recco mission on the front line, never above the ennemy territory. That's not even close to being true. 616 Squadron was flying armed recon missions and destroying targets right up to the war's end in May. That's easily proven by looking in the squadron logs. Edited November 20, 2022 by LukeFF 1 1 10
FliegerAD Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 I would not mind. And the Meteor did see combat against German jets. One was bombed by an Ar 234 of KG 76 on March 19 1945. ? 1
354thFG_Panda_ Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 It looks cool and futuristic. I hope it gets added in the future as a collector. 2
CountZero Posted November 20, 2022 Posted November 20, 2022 Yes it should be in game, especialy when they added axis jet airplanes, and coments that it didnt saw combat or it was to little of them and so on are comical considering ar234 has gunpods that were used on ONE airplane in whole war. Performance vise 262 gets shot down by Tempests P-51s Spitfires on regular bases i dont know why faster airplane then them would have any problems doing same... 4
Charon Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 7:20 AM, CountZero said: Yes it should be in game, especialy when they added axis jet airplanes, and coments that it didnt saw combat or it was to little of them and so on are comical considering ar234 has gunpods that were used on ONE airplane in whole war. Well, I don't think the Ar-234 gun pods (or, for that matter, the C.202 gun pods) should be in game either.
616Sqn_Johnny-Red Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) Personally I'd love to see the Meteor in game. It's a uniquely beautiful aircraft. Edited November 22, 2022 by 616Sqn_Johnny-Red 4 1
Talon_ Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 Hardly saw combat. I can think of lots of planes that would make more sense. 1
CountZero Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 ah yes , Spitfire XIVe but bubble canopey one, for 20$ LOL
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 Doubt we need and the XIV is worst spit regarding dog fighting , much better is IX . Doubt we need and the XIV is worst spit regarding dog fighting , much better is IX . Yes for Meteor.
Jackfraser24 Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 We need an Arado Ar-234 B-2/IBR in our inventories. They’ve got backwards facing guns to defend themselves against allied fighters.
1CGS LukeFF Posted December 2, 2022 1CGS Posted December 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said: We need an Arado Ar-234 B-2/IBR in our inventories. They’ve got backwards facing guns to defend themselves against allied fighters. Paper plane, never operational
Jackfraser24 Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, LukeFF said: Paper plane, never operational What did the IBR stand for? Also, why was it only on paper? Edited December 2, 2022 by Jackfraser24
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