WWII Aircraft Suggested Plane List

[CountZero]

52 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Why the P-38L should be in the game.

• Would appeal to P-38 Lightning fans who want to see earlier or later versions of the P-38 other than the P-38J-25.
• The P-38L would have a purpose in Bodenplatte being a career plane option because it was a contemporary plane at that time (later half of 1944).
• The P-38L was the most numerous variant, with way more built than the J (3,800+ vs ~2,970 respectively).
• The P-38 L-5 was the most common sub-variant.
• Equiped with air-brakes.
• Avionics are controlled via hydraulics rather than by cable wire (one benefit is having a faster rate of role).
• Machine guns are loaded with lots of ammunition (2,000 rounds). Cannons are loaded with 150 shells).

This is same like ppl asking for 109E4 when we already have E7, J-25 we have in game is same as L version, and L version was at time of bobp mostly used in Italy or PTO, small amount of them were in area we have compared to J.

To bad bosted alerons and air-brake was not made as modification that we can turn on/off, then we could have earlyer J versions mostly used in BoN with J-25 we have.

We have early and late version of 47 and 51, giving it timeline from 43-45, when it comes to 38 we need earlyer version like G for example to also get 43-45 op for 38s out of it. 

[FeuerFliegen]

56 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Why the P-38L should be in the game.

• Would appeal to P-38 Lightning fans who want to see earlier or later versions of the P-38 other than the P-38J-25.
• The P-38L would have a purpose in Bodenplatte being a career plane option because it was a contemporary plane at that time (later half of 1944).
• The P-38L was the most numerous variant, with way more built than the J (3,800+ vs ~2,970 respectively).
• The P-38 L-5 was the most common sub-variant.
• Equiped with air-brakes.
• Avionics are controlled via hydraulics rather than by cable wire (one benefit is having a faster rate of role).
• Machine guns are loaded with lots of ammunition (2,000 rounds). Cannons are loaded with 150 shells).

 

 

Post seems pretty off-topic, but....

 

The J-25 version we have now has air brakes.

The J-25 version we have now has hydraulically controlled ailerons.  Earlier J versions did not; maybe that's why you thought that.

The J-25 version we have now has the option to add 2,000 rounds of .50 ammunition.

 

other than those features, what benefits would there be to the L-5?

[Jackfraser24]

Why the Fw-200 should be in the game.

• Would be useful in Normandy as an anti-shipping aircraft.
• 1CGS would make it the best Fw-200 module ever made for flight combat simulators.
• Could be used as a Bomber or a transport aircraft. Played a small part in Stalingrad as transport aircraft.
• Was derived from airline service so it would have a nice classic airliner era feel when flying it.
• Was an AI aircraft in IL-2 1946, so it would be cool to have a Fw-200 flyable in Great Battles.
• Could carry 2,100kg of bombs.
• Had a very good range for it’s era - 3,556km with standard fuel; 4,440km with overload fuel.

[Jackfraser24]

6 minutes ago, SCG_FeuerFliegen said:

 

 

Post seems pretty off-topic, but....

 

The J-25 version we have now has air brakes.

The J-25 version we have now has hydraulically controlled ailerons.  Earlier J versions did not; maybe that's why you thought that.

The J-25 version we have now has the option to add 2,000 rounds of .50 ammunition.

 

other than those features, what benefits would there be to the L-5?

Improved features because the L variant made its debut later in the war.

[Asgar]

Don’t respond Asgar… if you do it’s gonna be mean… don’t do it?

[BOO]

I dont a later Ju52. I can barely get there on time as it is

[CountZero]

3 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Improved features because the L variant made its debut later in the war.

What exact improvments that J-25 dont have, and were used in bobp area we have ? 

Ju 52/3 with floats makess better use of code bit space on disk then making L 38.

 

 

[BOO]

Just now, CountZero said:

What exact improvments that J-25 dont have, and were used in bobp area we have ? 

Ju 52/3 with floats makess better use of code bit space on disk then making L 38.

 

 

floats over everything every time

[Lusekofte]

On 1/23/2022 at 1:30 AM, BlitzPig_EL said:

No_Face, you go right on playing the sim your way, and don't let any snobbish hard core player ever dictate your fun.

 

Ever.

Snobish???????????

I guess you did not comprehend my point. But that word I never been called before, nor hardcore. You totally missed the point. Or took a cheap shot

[BlitzPig_EL]

Was not taking a cheap shot sir.

 

I just think that the "full difficulty or nothing" crowd turn off a lot of prospective new players.  Back in old IL2 I preferred what we at the time called "full real", and mostly that's how I played the sim.  What irks me is that so many hard core players think that their play style is the only correct way to play the sim, which is patently nonsense.

 

Play it the way you like it, and have fun.  That's all I'm trying to say.  If it isn't fun, why bother at all?

Edited August 26, 2022 by BlitzPig_EL

[Jackfraser24]

Why the Ju-352 should be passed for consideration.

• Would be useful in late war scenarios like Bodenplatte or a a late war Eastern Front battle (especially if that's where this series is going next).
• Despite only 50 or so were built, it proved to be a worthy successor to the Ju-52. It was faster (370 km/h at 6,000 meters), had a longer range (2,995 km fully loaded), and had a higher load capacity.
• It required 60% less runway.
• The Ju-352 has not been covered by flight simulators before. Be worth a shot? 1CGS would do a brilliant job at it.
• After the war, one of the surviving two Ju-352's were sent to Britain to be evaluated. There should be enough data to make a Ju-352 (the other was sent to be Stalin's personal transport plane in the USSR).

[DD_Arthur]

Personally, I'd really like to see the very, very, very late version of the ju52 in game.  The one with the eight engines, swept back wings and the thermonuclear weapon capability....

 

[Jackfraser24]

Collector Planes that should be passed for consideration by front.

 

Eastern Front (1941-43)

 

Soviets

• A-20 C
• A-20 G-1
• DB-3b
• DB-3m
• DB-3t
• I-16 series 5
• I-16 series 6
• I-16 series 18
• IL-4
• LaGG-3 series 4
• LaGG-3 series 35
• LaGG-3 series 66
• MiG-3 series 15
• MiG-3 series 34
• P-39 M-1
• P-39 N-1
• P-39 N-5
• P-400
• P-40 B
• P-40 C
• P-40 K-15
• P-40 M-10
• P-40 N
• Pe-2 series 206
• Pe-3
• Pe-3bis
• R-5
• R-10
• SB-2m
• Su-2
• Yak-1 series 1
• Yak-1 series 36
• Yak-1 series 49
• Yak-1 series 60
• Yak-1 series 96
• Yak-1b series 136
• Yak-1m
• Yak-7a
• Yak-9d

Axis

• Bf-109 E-3
• Bf-109 E-4
• Bf-110 C-4
• Bf-110 C-7
• Bf-110 D-3
• B-534-IV
• Do-17 Z-2
• Do-217 K-1
• Do-217 K-2
• Fi-156
• Fw-189 A-1/2
• Fw-190 A-4
• Fw-200 C-3
• G.50bis
• He-111 H-2
• He-111 H-11
• Hs-123
• Hs-129 B-1
• Ju-87 B-2
• Ju-87 D-5
• Ju-88 A-6 anti shipping
• Ju-88 A-8
• Ju-88 A-14
• Ju-88 A-17 torpedo bomber
• Ju-88 P-1
• Mc.200 Serie III
• Mc.200 Serie VII
• Mc.202 Serie III
• Mc.202 Serie VII
• MC.202 Serie XII
• Me-210 Ca-1 

Western Front (1943-45)

 

Allies

• A-20G
• A-20G-25
• A-20G-30
• A-20G-35
• A-20G-40
• A-20G-45
• A-20J
• A-20J-15
• A-20J-20
• A-26B
• A-26B-20
• A-26B-60
• A-26C
• A-26C-20
• Albacore Mk.I
• B-25C
• B-25G
• B-25H
• B-26C
• B-26G
• Barracuda TB Mk.I
• Barracuda TB Mk.II
• Barracuda TB Mk.III
• Barracuda TB Mk.IV
• Beaufighter Mk.VIc
• Beaufighter Mk.X
• Hurricane Mk.IV
• Meteor Mk.I
• Meteor Mk.III
• Mosquito Mk.I
• Mosquito Mk.II
• Mosquito Mk.III
• Mosquito Mk.IV
• Mosquito Mk.IX
• Mosquito Mk.XIII
• Mosquito Mk.XV
• Mosquito Mk.XVIII
• Mosquito Mk.XIX
• P-38 G
• P-38 G-13
• P-38 G-15
• P-38 H
• P-38 H-1
• P-38 H-5
• P-38 J-5
• P-38 J-10
• P-38 J-20
• P-38 L-1
• P-38 L-5
• P-39 M-3
• P-39 N-5
• P-39 Q-1
• P-39 Q-5
• P-39 Q-10
• P-47 C-2
• P-47 C-3
• P-47 C-5
• P-47 D-1
• P-47 D-2
• P-47 D-4
• P-47 D-5
• P-47 D-6
• P-47 D-10
• P-47 D-11
• P-47 D-15
• P-47 D-16
• P-47 D-20
• P-47 D-21
• P-47 D-23
• P-47 D-25
• P-47 D-26
• P-47 D-27
• P-47 D-30
• P-47 M-1
• P-51 B-1
• P-51 B-7
• P-51 B-10
• P-51 B-15
• P-51 D-5
• P-51 D-10
• P-51 D-20
• P-51 D-30
• P-51 K-1
• P-51 K-5
• Spitfire Mk.Vc
• Spitfire Mk.VIII
• Spitfire Mk.IXa
• Spitfire Mk.IXb
• Spitfire Mk.IXc
• Spitfire Mk.XVI
• Swordfish Mk.II
• Swordfish Mk.III
• Typhoon Mk.Ia 
• Wellington Mk.X
• Wellington Mk.XIII
• Wellington Mk.XVI

Axis

• Bf-109 G-6AS
• Bf-109 G-8
• Bf-109 G-10AS
• Bf-109 G-14AS
• Bf-110 G-4
• Do-335 A-0
• He-111 H-20
• He-111 H-21
• He-111 H-22
• He-177 A-3
• He-177 A-5
• Ju-88 S-1
• Ju-188 A-1
• Ju-188 A-2
• Ju-188 E-2
• Ju-388 J
• Me-162 B-1
• Me-163 B-1a
• Me-410 A-2
• Me-410 A-3
• Me-410 B-1
• Me-410 B-2
• Me-410 B-6

I know that is a really big list. I’m not saying that they have to do them all. I’m just putting it out there that there are a lot of options for the Eastern and Western front maps that we have already. I will admit, that doing all of them would take a lot of time, money and resources, so I wouldn’t be too demanding about them doing everything on this list. 

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who would like to see some earlier, ie "C" models, of the P47,

 

Have a nice day.

 

[Jackfraser24]

Why the P-47C should be passed for consideration.

 

Usefulness in IL-2

• Could be used in Battle of Normandy or Bodenplatte pilot career missions.
• Would be good to have other P-47 variants represented other than the D-22 and D-28 because over 15,000 were built. Should be more D sub variants as well.

P-47C Historical Importance

• Was the first P-47 variant to see active service.
• Was used as a bomber escort over Europe.

Differences between the P-47C and P-47D

• P-47D had more extensive cockpit armor than the P-47C.
• P-47D had a more evolved supercharger exhaust system. It had an adjustable duct and redesigned vents for the engine accessory system.
• P-47C had a range of 1,030 km and a top range of 2,012 km. The P-47D had a range of 764 km and a top range of 2,736 km.
• P-47C could fly at 697 km/h at 30,000 feet. P-47D could fly at 689 km/h at 30,000 feet.
• P-47C weighed 4,491 kg empty, 5,670 kg full, and at 6,770 kg Maximum Take Off Weight (MTOW). P-47D weighed 4,536 kg empty, 6,577 kg full, and 8,800 kg at MTOW.
• Both had a service ceiling of 42,000 feet.

 

[BraveSirRobin]

4 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Why the P-47C should be passed for consideration.

 

Usefulness in IL-2

• Could be used in Battle of Normandy or Bodenplatte pilot career missions.
• Would be good to have other P-47 variants represented other than the D-22 and D-28 because over 15,000 were built. Should be more D sub variants as well.

P-47C Historical Importance

• Was the first P-47 variant to see active service.
• Was used as a bomber escort over Europe.

Differences between the P-47C and P-47D

• P-47D had more extensive cockpit armor than the P-47C.
• P-47D had a more evolved supercharger exhaust system. It had an adjustable duct and redesigned vents for the engine accessory system.
• P-47C had a range of 1,030 km and a top range of 2,012 km. The P-47D had a range of 764 km and a top range of 2,736 km.
• P-47C could fly at 697 km/h at 30,000 feet. P-47D could fly at 689 km/h at 30,000 feet.
• P-47C weighed 4,491 kg empty, 5,670 kg full, and at 6,770 kg Maximum Take Off Weight (MTOW). P-47D weighed 4,536 kg empty, 6,577 kg full, and 8,800 kg at MTOW.
• Both had a service ceiling of 42,000 feet.

 

 

Is there any aircraft that saw combat in WW2 that you feel should not be included in this game?  

[AndyJWest]

39 minutes ago, BraveSirRobin said:

 

Is there any aircraft that saw combat in WW2 that you feel should not be included in this game?  

 

[BraveSirRobin]

13 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

 

 

It got more kills than the 190 got over Stalingrad.  It deserves consideration...

[Jackfraser24]

7 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said:

 

Is there any aircraft that saw combat in WW2 that you feel should not be included in this game?  

I understand what you’re saying. If I had omnipotent powers every combat plane, helicopter, air ship, tank and ship that ever existed would be in the game and be playable in a blink of an eye by now.

 

All I am saying is that the P-47C was an important predecessor to the P-47D, and that it has every right to be included into career missions for Normandy and Bodenplatte, like the D-22 and D-28 has been.

 

Edited September 10, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

All I am saying is that the P-47C was an important predecessor to the P-47D, and that it has every right to be included into career missions for Normandy and Bodenplatte, like the D-22 and D-28 has been.

 

Dude, I hate to keep doing this, but the P-47C was long gone by the time of Normandy and Rhineland. 

[DD_Arthur]

14 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said:

 

It got more kills than the 190 got over Stalingrad.  It deserves consideration...

Didn’t one of these sink a pocket battleship too?

 

@Jack; now we know you want…everything….in the game; you’ll promise us you won’t list them? Please.

[CountZero]

19 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

Didn’t one of these sink a pocket battleship too?

 

@Jack; now we know you want…everything….in the game; you’ll promise us you won’t list them? Please.

oh contraire , you miss that thred is renamed to Suggested Plane List #1 , so expect Suggested Plane List #2, Suggested Plane List #3 and so on... 

[blockheadgreen_]

The HF Spitfires i.e the HF VI, F/HF VII would be nice to see. They've yet to be featured in a simulator and were used fairly extensively over the new map, plus the HF VII was used with great success over the invasion zone.

Edited September 10, 2022 by Lythronax

[Jackfraser24]

Alright, I’ll stop. I’m sorry. 

Edited September 10, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[DD_Arthur]

9 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Alright, I’ll stop. I’m sorry. 

Don’t worry mate. We’re just pulling your leg?.

You have as much right to post what you want here as the rest of us do and no one can say you haven’t stimulated the debate.

 I should think whatever they make as the next module, the decision won’t have been an easy one?

 

[Jackfraser24]

5 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

Don’t worry mate. We’re just pulling your leg?.

You have as much right to post what you want here as the rest of us do and no one can say you haven’t stimulated the debate.

 I should think whatever they make as the next module, the decision won’t have been an easy one?

 

Thanks. You people almost had me worried there. I’ll cut down though. I just love to share information with people, even if its  random people on the street or online.

 

One thing I wish they could do was North Africa. One of my Great  Grandfathers fought there in places like Tobruk and Sidi Rezegh in the New Zealand Army. When he was sent home on leave, the Germans and Italians were pushed out of North Africa. He did not go back to war. 

Edited September 11, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Oh yeah, they also flew early P40's in North Africa.

 

have a nice day.

 

[Jackfraser24]

12 hours ago, FlyingShark said:

Oh yeah, they also flew early P40's in North Africa.

 

have a nice day.

 

There’s just so many aircraft that IL-2 has yet to cover. War Thunder has over 2,000. Compared to that number, IL-2 only have 85 with 6 aircraft on the way (6 if you count the Li-2 separately from the C-47, and the IAR.81 from the 80) date. 

Edited September 12, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[Hoss]

On 4/24/2022 at 8:45 AM, Alexmarine said:

I would personally really like a Tupolev SB bomber as a collector's plane 

 

And the Su-2.....

[Ghost666]

14 hours ago, Hoss said:

And the Su-2.....

That is one ugly, ugly plane!

 

I like it.

[Jackfraser24]

If there is going to be a Battle of Berlin Next, I think the Plane List would be something like this.

 

Axis                                                               

• Bf-109 G-10
• Fw-190 A-9
• He-111 H-22
• He-162 A-1/2
• Ta-152 H-0/1 (Collector)

Allies

• La-7
• P-63 C-5 (Collector)
• Tu-2
• Yak-3
• Yak-9U

 

 

Edited September 13, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[Hoss]

13 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

If there is going to be a Battle of Berlin Next, I think the Plane List would be something like this.

 

Axis                                                               

• Bf-109 G-10
• Fw-190 A-9
• He-111 H-22
• Ju-88 S-1
• Ta-152 H-0/1 (Collector)

Allies

• La-7
• P-63 C-5 (Collector)
• Tu-2
• Yak-3
• Yak-9U

Battle of Berlin would also need something Allied coming from the West...

I do like seeing the P-63 in your line up.. and the Tu-2, would love to see it in game finally...

 

[354thFG_Panda_]

Would love to see P-47C and early P-38. 

[Jackfraser24]

Beaufighter Mk.X (10)

 

Why it should be passed for consideration

• We need more British planes in the sky’s above the battlefield, like as many as Germany and the Soviet Union has.
• (To partially quote wikipedia) Has four 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannons in the nose, six 7.7 mm browning machine guns in the wings, two on the left wing, four on the right (which I find odd), capable of carrying eight 27 kg rockets, two 110 kg bombs, or one torpedo. So a lot of firepower and weapons capacity. Has a manned turret at the back, so you would be well defended from behind.
• Would complement the Mosquito in combat.
• You could almost say its a multi role fighter aircraft like the Mosquito since it can be used as a heavy fighter, night fighter, strike fighter, light bomber or a torpedo bomber.
• This variant of the Beaufighter was operating in Southern England before, during and after Operation Overlord.

[Jackfraser24]

Would having the Me-163 have any purpose being in Normandy or Bodenplatte? Or would it only be useful if Great Battles made a strategic bombing dlc revolving around the years 1944-45?

[BOO]

10 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Beaufighter Mk.X (10)

 

Why it should be passed for consideration

• We need more British planes in the sky’s above the battlefield, like as many as Germany and the Soviet Union has.
• (To partially quote wikipedia) Has four 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannons in the nose, six 7.7 mm browning machine guns in the wings, two on the left wing, four on the right (which I find odd), capable of carrying eight 27 kg rockets, two 110 kg bombs, or one torpedo. So a lot of firepower and weapons capacity. Has a manned turret at the back, so you would be well defended from behind.
• Would complement the Mosquito in combat.
• You could almost say its a multi role fighter aircraft like the Mosquito since it can be used as a heavy fighter, night fighter, strike fighter, light bomber or a torpedo bomber.
• This variant of the Beaufighter was operating in Southern England before, during and after Operation Overlord.

MKX is a Torbeau. Dont think BoX does torpedos yet.  If you are looking at at 1944 timeframe you also have the AI MKVIII radar in the "Thimble nose". Box doesnt do search radar either.  A Mk XIC would better suit perhaps but these mostly operated in strike wings alongside MkXs. 

 

Rear defence in the shape of a single .0303 with limited traverse and the fact that the pilot has littlel if no rearward vision isnt "well defended" ?

 

So, without torp and radar tech any beau it would be something of a compromised mossie at this time. 

 

 

[BOO]

31 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Would having the Me-163 have any purpose being in Normandy or Bodenplatte? Or would it only be useful if Great Battles made a strategic bombing dlc revolving around the years 1944-45?

The latter

[SFC_Scott]

Any plans for an A-20G variant? According to vvsairwar.com the Soviet Union received 1,606 G models. Reportedly half of the G models produced! 

 

2018/01/09/the-douglas-a-20-havoc-boston-in-soviet-service/

 

 

[BOO]

54 minutes ago, SFC_Scott said:

Any plans for an A-20G variant? According to vvsairwar.com the Soviet Union received 1,606 G models. Reportedly half of the G models produced! 

 

2018/01/09/the-douglas-a-20-havoc-boston-in-soviet-service/

 

 

Often requested but so far no indication I’ll happen. 

[SFC_Scott]

9 hours ago, BOO said:

Often requested but so far no indication I’ll happen. 

They need a voting system to prioritize their developments!  But then again, with as much money as I've paid them in preorders and in paying full price for existing content, they should just defer judgement to me and let me make those decisions...?