WWII Aircraft Suggested Plane List

[Jackfraser24]

4 hours ago, JG7_X-Man said:

Cliffs of Dover? Never heard of it.

It was the first game in the IL-2 second generation concerning the Battle of Britain. It’s an alright game in my opinion, but the textures and graphics were outdated by the time it was released - 2011. Even Rise of Flight had way better graphics and textures, and that was released in 2009. Team Fusion revamped the game to the best degree they could have possibly done though. 
 

This is all just in my opinion though so please take it with a grain of salt.

[Enceladus828]

54 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

5 hours ago, JG7_X-Man said:

 

It was the first game in the IL-2 second generation concerning the Battle of Britain…

He was just being sarcastic

[Jackfraser24]

On 1/16/2025 at 7:05 PM, LukeFF said:

And are you guys ready to do all the needed research for them? 🙂 It's not as simple as you make it out to be. 

I think we need more aircraft for Moscow as there are few available for AQMB and pilot career mode in comparison to other BoX. And I'll be reasonable with this.

Axis

• Bf-109 E-4
• He-111 H-2
• Hs-123A
• Ju-87 B-2
• Mc.200 Serie 21

Soviets

• LaGG-3 Series 4
• Pe-3bis
• SB-2
• Tomahawk Mk.IIa
• Yak-1 Series 1

 

[Jackfraser24]

On 1/18/2025 at 4:12 PM, JG7_X-Man said:

BoB Collectors Pack $100 USD

 

Spitfire Ia/Ib

Spitfire IIa/IIb

Fairey Swordfish

 

Bf 109E-4

Fw 190A-2

Fw 190A-4

Do-17

I'd like to see a Battle of Britain module done for the new series. But I think we'd need a slightly different list.

 

Allies

• Beaufighter Mk.I (Collector)
• Blenheim Mk.I
• Defiant Mk.I
• Hurricane Mk.I
• Spitfire Mk.I

Axis

• Bf-109 E-3
• Bf-110 C-4 (Collector) (This was a hard one)
• He-111 H-2
• Ju-87 B-2
• Ju-88 A-1

[Jackfraser24]

On 1/16/2025 at 7:05 PM, LukeFF said:

And are you guys ready to do all the needed research for them? 🙂 It's not as simple as you make it out to be. 

I’m not actually upset, haha! But I guess if we were to have ten more collector planes for Great Battles and being reasonable, I would have to chose these ten.

Allies

• A-20G
• Beaufighter Mk.VIc
• B-25D Flyable 
• B-26B Flyable
• IL-4

Axis

• Bf-109 G-10
• Do-217 M-1
• Fw-190 A-9
• He-111 H-20
• Ju-188 A-1

 

Edited February 15 by Jackfraser24

[Jackfraser24]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:57 AM, Jackfraser24 said:

Bf-109 E-4 - 10 reasons why

1. There were minor differences between the E-4 and E-7. It had a less powerful engine; had less powerful armament; less fuel; slightly lighter and couldn’t fly as far. 
2. It had some advantages over the E-7 such as better manoeuvrability and better cockpit visibility. 
3. If anybody wanted to make a YouTube video about the Battle of Britain they could use the E-4 to make it look more realistic. 
4. The Bf-109E was a beautiful looking aircraft and I think it would be nice to have another E sub-variant. 
5. The E-4 would make pilot career more historically accurate in pilot career. 
6. It was an iconic sub-variant of the Bf-109.
7. If the Bf-109 G-6 Late and G-6AS were made when we already had the Bf-109 G-6, I think it would be unreasonable to exclude the E-4. 
8. The E-4 was in the original IL-2 series.
9. The E-4 was used at Odessa (1941), Moscow and Stalingrad.
10. It would appeal to people who like the Bf-109E sub variants.

We are finally getting the Bf-109 E-4 for Great Battles! For all who don't know, this is exactly why I have been suggesting aircraft. So in case they are going to be announced I quote my own suggestion and say:

Edited February 21 by Jackfraser24

[ST_Catchov]

Thank you Jack. One can never have enough 109's. We are indebted.

[Jackfraser24]

2 hours ago, ST_Catchov said:

Thank you Jack. One can never have enough 109's. We are indebted.

I think we can never have enough planes for Great Battles in general.

 

[Jackfraser24]

20 Most Needed Aircraft

 

Axis

• Bf-109 G-10
• Bf-110 C-4
• Bf-110 F-2
• Do-217 E-2
• Do-217 M-1
• Fw-189 A-1
• Fw-190 A-9
• He-111 H-20
• Ju-87 B-2
• Ju-188 A-1

Allies

• A-20G
• Beaufighter Mk.VI
• IL-4
• LaGG-3 Series 66
• P-38L
• P-39Q
• P-40M
• Pe-3Bis
• Tu-2
• Yak-9D

[Jackfraser24]

What are people's thoughts on the newly announced 'Defense and Liberation' plane list? 

 

I'll go first. Honestly though I am glad to see all these aircraft coming to the game and not at all disappointed in what they have chosen to make, I was kind of hoping for larger multi-engine bombers like the A-20G, IL-4 and the Pe-2 1944 Series for the Soviets and the Do-217 E-2, He-111 H-2 and H-20, and the Ju-188 A/E. Reason why is because they could be used in other Great Battles modules. But on the positive side I am glad that we are seeing fighter aircraft like the Bf-109 E-4, La-7, and the Yak-3, as well as more heavier aircraft like the IL-2 model 1944 and the Ju-87 D-5. 

Edited February 27 by Jackfraser24

[Jackfraser24]

Ju-87 B-2 - Five Reasons Why

• The Ju-87 B-2 would have a place in the pilot career modes of the early Eastern Front modules between 1941-42. A significant number of Ju-87 B-2's were used at Moscow and Stalingrad, as well as the Sieges of Odessa and Leningrad. 
• The Ju-87 B-2 would also complement the Ju-87 D-3 at Stalingrad in Pilot Career and would show the transition of squadrons changing from the Ju-87B to the Ju-87D series, which I think would be nice to have in Battle of Stalingrad.
• Since the Ju-87 D-5 has been announced, I think that the Ju-87 B-2 deserves at least some consideration amongst the team to make. Its differences were greater from the Ju-87 D-3 in comparison to the differences between the D-3 and D-5. It was less evolved, yet the B series had that more iconic Stuka look.
• I think that Battle of Moscow is missing a lot of aircraft from it on both sides in pilot career and AQMB. It needs more aircraft, especially the Ju-87 B-2 as they were prevalent there and (I think) the B-2 was the main Stuka variant at the Battle. 
• I believe it would be a success for the game as it would be well liked amongst the community, but for Stuka fans it would really appeal to them. 

Edited February 28 by Jackfraser24

[Jackfraser24]

Ju-87 D-1 - Five Reasons Why

• The Ju-87 D-1 marked the Stuka squadron's transition from the Ju-87B series to the Ju-87D series. If both the Ju-87 B-2 (from above) and the Ju-87 D-1 were to be made, they would show that smooth transition.
• The Ju-87 D-1, along with the Ju-87 B-2 (again, from above) would complete the list of Stukas that flew missions on the Eastern Front. I mean, we already have the D-3 and then there's the incoming D-5, so (I think) we need earlier variants of the Stuka to complete this list.
• The Ju-87 D-1 would work well in the Battle of Moscow, Stalingrad, Kuban and Defense and Liberation pilot career modes as an effective dive bomber. As for late 1941 to early 1942 the only other Stuka available was the B-2, which is more primitive than the Ju-87D series, so it would complement the B-2 well at Moscow.
• The Ju-87 D-1 was different to the Ju-87 D-3 in terms of having less armor, which may suggest that this was more so a pure dive bomber than a dive bomber and a ground attack aircraft, which I think makes a big enough difference to be justified to be made for the game.
• The Ju-87 D-1 would make the Battle of Moscow and Stalingrad Pilot Career and Advanced Quick Mission Builder game play more accurate, and it would add extra spice to it (meaning that new planes would make for an even more exciting game play).

Edited March 2 by LukeFF
NO SWASTIKAS

[Jackfraser24]

On 3/2/2025 at 2:20 PM, Jackfraser24 said:

Ju-87 D-1 - Five Reasons Why

• The Ju-87 D-1 marked the Stuka squadron's transition from the Ju-87B series to the Ju-87D series. If both the Ju-87 B-2 (from above) and the Ju-87 D-1 were to be made, they would show that smooth transition.
• The Ju-87 D-1, along with the Ju-87 B-2 (again, from above) would complete the list of Stukas that flew missions on the Eastern Front. I mean, we already have the D-3 and then there's the incoming D-5, so (I think) we need earlier variants of the Stuka to complete this list.
• The Ju-87 D-1 would work well in the Battle of Moscow, Stalingrad, Kuban and Defense and Liberation pilot career modes as an effective dive bomber. As for late 1941 to early 1942 the only other Stuka available was the B-2, which is more primitive than the Ju-87D series, so it would complement the B-2 well at Moscow.
• The Ju-87 D-1 was different to the Ju-87 D-3 in terms of having less armor, which may suggest that this was more so a pure dive bomber than a dive bomber and a ground attack aircraft, which I think makes a big enough difference to be justified to be made for the game.
• The Ju-87 D-1 would make the Battle of Moscow and Stalingrad Pilot Career and Advanced Quick Mission Builder game play more accurate, and it would add extra spice to it (meaning that new planes would make for an even more exciting game play).

Hey LukeFF, I just want to apologize for the accidental swastika post. I was so used to seeing German plane images and I got so accustomed to it that I forgot it was actually on the tail of the aircraft. Again, I just want to say sorry for all of this to you and anyone I may have offended by accident. Have a good day (you the reader).

[Carlos_Cota_517]

Polish Yak-9M 🇵🇱

 

Page from Polish Wings 20, book published on February 2016, by Wojciech Zmyslony & Wojciech Sankowsk

[Jackfraser24]

I wish it would become a collector plane. 

[R7-S276]

I know almost everybody are focus of fighters, but I really think according all the maps and periods there is now in Il-2 that the Fieseler Fi 156 Storch and the Westland Lysander could open the door to create a lot of alternative and various missions and campaigns

[Carlos_Cota_517]

I wish we could get a collector's Yak-9U (it was probably the best soviet fighter of the war), but the timeframe doesn't allow it, since it entered frontline service around autumn 1944, and Il-2 Odessa will end in June 1944

 

That is unless we get a similar situation to the Spitfire Mk.XIVe, or we get a 3rd party late 1944 ~ early 1945 map

 

A second best alternative could be a collector's Yak-9M, with available modifications such as the VK-105PF2 engine, and cockpit instrumentation, for nighttime operations, to represent the custom units flown by the PVO regiments

 

Spoiler

 

 

[namhee2]

I would be interested to know if it would be possible to bring the Me 163 into the game. The aircraft doesn't seem to be that complicated.

[AndyJWest]

Would it be possible? Well clearly, yes, if the developers had the necessary funding and incentive to do so, I'm quite sure that they would be capable of doing it, and that the IL-2 GB engine could be made to handle it. It's different (tailless, rocket powered) but nothing that presumably couldn't be coded around, with enough resources.

 

Will it happen? I'd be rather surprised if it does, since they are now working on content for the revised game engine - Korea and after that the Pacific - and taking resources away from that to build a one-off design for the old engine would be an odd choice of priorities.

 

And as much as I'd like to see the Me 193 modelled again, it really doesn't offer a lot of gameplay options in an IL-2 GB context. It's limited operational use consisted exclusively of interceptions of large high-level heavy bomber formations, which IL-2 GB can't model effectively. 

[Jackfraser24]

7 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

Would it be possible? Well clearly, yes, if the developers had the necessary funding and incentive to do so, I'm quite sure that they would be capable of doing it, and that the IL-2 GB engine could be made to handle it. It's different (tailless, rocket powered) but nothing that presumably couldn't be coded around, with enough resources.

 

Will it happen? I'd be rather surprised if it does, since they are now working on content for the revised game engine - Korea and after that the Pacific - and taking resources away from that to build a one-off design for the old engine would be an odd choice of priorities.

 

And as much as I'd like to see the Me 193 modelled again, it really doesn't offer a lot of gameplay options in an IL-2 GB context. It's limited operational use consisted exclusively of interceptions of large high-level heavy bomber formations, which IL-2 GB can't model effectively. 

You could use it in multiplayer. I can see the Me-163 could bring a few advantages to the table. 

• Scrambling
• Ground attack 
• Bomber interception 

[AndyJWest]

7 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

You could use it in multiplayer. I can see the Me-163 could bring a few advantages to the table. 

• Scrambling
• Ground attack 
• Bomber interception 

 

Ground attack? in an Me 163? Can you please explain how exactly you think that would work, and what conceivable advantages it would have over say an Fw 190 in that scenario?

[Avimimus]

Admittedly, that is the kind of hilarious nonsense I'm into.

 

In a ground attack role it would have an even shorter combat radius (as it wouldn't be able to use altitude to store potential energy for the glide back). This means it'd probably have to be stationed something like 20 km from the enemy (assuming it wasn't a one way trip). It would fire off all 120 rounds of 30mm ammunition (60 rpg) in a single pass, and then try to climb.

 

The added issue is that it wasn't really safe to fly at anything under full throttle... so it'd be quite difficult to keep from overspeeding at low altitude I suspect.

[AndyJWest]

Yup. Unless the objective was to create a nice neat smoking hole, the Me 163s ground attack potential was rather limited.

 

Maybe I should fire up Il-2 46 some time, and try it.

[[CPT]Crunch]

50 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

 

Ground attack? in an Me 163? Can you please explain how exactly you think that would work, and what conceivable advantages it would have over say an Fw 190 in that scenario?

Given it's full explosive potential coded in game with the Z and T Stoff mixed in the crash hole it could potentially take out an entire spawn parking ramp at once.

Instant game favorite.

[AndyJWest]

You'd have plenty of opportunity to enjoy the benefits of T-Stoff (flesh-dissolving high-strength hydrogen peroxide) even without a crash. The cockpit basically sits in a tank of it. There's armour at the front, where it's most needed for attacking bombers, but no side protection. Ground attack tends to attract fire from all directions. One unlucky rifle-calibre hit, and the pilot could be in a race to get back to base before his feet fell off. 

[AndyJWest]

"There's a fine like between clever and stupid..."

 

[LukeFF]

Does Al do horrible German accents in that video?

[AndyJWest]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

Does Al do horrible German accents in that video?

 

Only some of the time. Al Murray is actually fairly well-informed on WW2 history, despite the jokey tone of the video. The videos Murray has made together with James Holland are often well worth a look, sometimes giving insights that a more dry historical approach might miss. Watching them wander around Arnheim back garden passages for instance helped give a better sense of the close-quarters nature of the fighting than one might get otherwise. See in particular the episode 'The Bizarre Disappearance of a WWII General' (link) for how utterly messed up it got, as senior British officers found themselves trapped in an attic for hours, with a StuG parked outside.

 

Their home page: link

[LukeFF]

Gotcha. I listen to their podcast fairly regularly and it just gets repetitive hearing the horrible attempts at impersonations. 

 

But I'll stop now, as that's going off topic. 🙂

[AEthelraedUnraed]

On 6/10/2025 at 10:35 PM, AndyJWest said:

Ground attack? in an Me 163? Can you please explain how exactly you think that would work,

Like this, basically:

Any other type of ground attack is doomed to fail.

 

On 6/12/2025 at 10:25 PM, AndyJWest said:

Arnheim

Arnhem, unless you are zee German

 

[AndyJWest]

44 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Arnhem, unless you are zee German

 

 

Oops. Apologies to all. ☹️

[Jackfraser24]

On 5/31/2025 at 2:15 PM, Carlos_Cota_517 said:

I wish we could get a collector's Yak-9U (it was probably the best soviet fighter of the war), but the timeframe doesn't allow it, since it entered frontline service around autumn 1944, and Il-2 Odessa will end in June 1944

 

A second best alternative could be a collector's Yak-9M, with available modifications such as the VK-105PF2 engine, and cockpit instrumentation, for nighttime operations, to represent the custom units flown by the PVO regiments

 

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I wish we could get the Yak-9U and Yak-9M as well.

 

On 2/28/2024 at 11:13 AM, Traffic said:

P40F and or P40N please.

Agreed. But don't forget about the Tomahawk Mk.IIa/b and the P-40M.

[Jackfraser24]

Anybody want to see a P-38L for Bodenplatte? I think it would be a perfect fit for the ETO 1944-45 because they were in fact used there, and I think people would like it.

Edited July 18 by Jackfraser24

[MDzmitry]

5 часов назад, Jackfraser24 сказал:

Anybody want to see a P-38L for Bodenplatte?

That'd be a waste of recourses honestly.

The main difference I spotted between late P-38J (present in the game) and P-38L is the latter having 50hp more on maximum engine output. And it didn't even affect the performance: for example, top speed was stated to be 670 kmph above 8000m for P-38L, and we have the same 670 kmph at 8500m on Combat engine mode for P-38J-25. Hydraulic actuators are already present on J-25, too, as well as dive recovery flaps.

Adding what's practically a copy-paste aircraft for the same timeframe and with practically no distinctive features would be pointless.

[Jackfraser24]

2 hours ago, MDzmitry said:

That'd be a waste of recourses honestly.

The main difference I spotted between late P-38J (present in the game) and P-38L is the latter having 50hp more on maximum engine output. And it didn't even affect the performance: for example, top speed was stated to be 670 kmph above 8000m for P-38L, and we have the same 670 kmph at 8500m on Combat engine mode for P-38J-25. Hydraulic actuators are already present on J-25, too, as well as dive recovery flaps.

Adding what's practically a copy-paste aircraft for the same timeframe and with practically no distinctive features would be pointless.

Interesting. Good to know. 

[1/JSpan_Wind75]

To the developer team:   

 

"Please, could the "Buchón" aircraft be made into a collector's aircraft? All virtual pilots would buy it, and I believe Hispanic pilots would buy it too." It would be like having the entire collection of the English Hispano-Bf-109s, the Buchón.

I would be very grateful. There would also be a small map of the Battle of the Ebro (Catalonia) during the Spanish Civil War of '36, where the most veteran pilots of the Condor Division participated with the first Bf-109s against Russian and Italian aircraft.

 

Edited July 26 by 1/JSpan_Wind75

[Jackfraser24]

This is my wish list if I had to narrow the list to five aircraft:

• A-20G
• Beaufighter Mk.VIc
• Bf-110 F-4
• Ju-87 B-2
• P-40M

What would yours be?

Edited July 28 by Jackfraser24

[ITAF_Rani]

I think if we are luky enough  to have a good 3rd part team collaborating with Devs, we could get every plane we desire.....

[Kubert]

I wish only for Ju-87 B-2. At least in AI form. So it could be encountered above Moscow, early Odessa and Leningrad. I may be psychopath, but I like shooting at Stukas.  Maybe one day I learn how to fly that thing. 

[Jackfraser24]

3 hours ago, Kubert said:

I wish only for Ju-87 B-2. At least in AI form. So it could be encountered above Moscow, early Odessa and Leningrad. I may be psychopath, but I like shooting at Stukas.  Maybe one day I learn how to fly that thing. 

That doesn't make you a psychophath, mate, it makes you a typical human.