Carlos_Cota_517 Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 I know I've been ranting about this on discord for a while by now, but I think this maybe a good idea after all, as IL-2 Great Battles allows for great degree of customization. The Yak-9M was a late war version of the Yak-9, based on the Yak-9T's air-frame, that entered service around May 1944, it was implemented with numerous fixes and improvements based on experience with previous versions. One notable example of its versatility was that many Air Defense (PVO) units were equipped with specially modified Yak-9Ms intended for adverse whether & nighttime operations. In-game there could be a new Yak-9M, either as a collector's aircraft or as part of the soon to come late war eastern front scenario, with several available modification to represent the customized models used by the PVO units. The list of such modification could probably look like this: • RPK-10 radio compass • AGP-2 attitude indicator • PBP-1A gun sight • Rearview mirror... • Searchlight • Klimov VK-105PF2 engine, with 970 kW (~1,300 hp) (This engine could increase top speed to just above 609 kph at 3800 ~ 4000 m of altitude, in exchange for a slightly reduced fuel load) Standard grey paint scheme AGP-2 I think that such aircraft would cover the niche left by the retirement of the MiG-3 from the front lines by early 1943, as currently there are no soviet-made fighters with the instrumentation needed to deal with nighttime-bomber-interceptions nor bad-whether-Shturmovik-escort missions. Such tasks would otherwise not be fulfilled until the adoption of the Lavochkin La-7, on summer 1944. Spoiler Yak 9M 21IAP White 27 slogan Nikolay Antonov Baltics 1944 Yak 9M 152GvIAP 12GIAD White 22 with Lt Vladimir M Kondratyev Ukrainian front 1944 Yak 9M 355IAP 181IAD White 22 slogan Kursk collective farmer Ukrainian front 1945 Yak 9M 157IAP 273IAD slogan to Berlin based in Belorussian Front 1944 Yak 9M 513IAP 331IAD White 32 slogan Happy Victory Ukrainian front 1944 Yak 9M 777IAP 96SHAD Silver 14 with Maj FN Cheremukhin Far Eastern Front 1945 Yak 9M 513IAP 331IAD White 89 Ukrainian front 1944 Yak 9M 900IAP 240IAD HSU Pavel Golovachev Belorussian Front spring 1945 (Many user-made skins that we have for the Yak-9T are actually Yak-9M's) Spoiler The Yak-9M would be very similar to the Yak-9T but with a few key differences... • Change the 37 mm cannon for the 20 mm one • Replace ammo counter with the AGP-2 artificial horizon indicator • Increase top true air speed by around +25 kph (when taking the modified engine) Just these three tweaks to the Yak-9T we have would make a world of difference Thank you 5 1
Carlos_Cota_517 Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 (I wasn't sure if I should talk about this on general discussion or here) I think bringing the Yak-9M (and its modifications) would be very interesting, to say the least, as it was one of the few Non-Lend-Lease soviet fighter equipped to fly on Bad Whether. It also entered service at least one month before the La-7 or even the Yak-3. I would reiterate that it would probably be somewhat simple to develop, as it would need around 3 tweaks to the Yak-9T's model for it to work: Change 37 mm cannon for a 20 mm one Change ammo counter for an AGP-2 Change top true air speed to 609 kph (with the VK-105PF2 engine) It could even use the same livery template "Since the retirement of the Mikoyan & Gurevich MiG-3 from front-line service there have been no Homemade fighters to properly defend the night-skies of The Motherland; a batch of especially modified Yak-9Ms have just been delivered to several Air Defense Force units in the hopes to protect our borders from the threat of nighttime Ju-88 bomber raids" o7 Spoiler All jokes aside, I would really love to see such nuance aircraft be implemented to Great Battles, even if only as a collector's aircraft Thank you 😄 2
=BLW=Pablo Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 (edited) I suppose the most important thing about adding planes to the IL-2 is how much people are willing to pay for them. I would pay twice the price of Bondenplate for a Spanish Civil War or a Battle of France. Who wouldn't want to fly an early model 109? Or even a Heinkel 112, which was very maneuverable. The French and Finnish Hawk 75s saw a lot of combat, and I particularly like them. Who in the simulation world wouldn't want to fly a P-40B from the Flying Tigers against Ki-27s, A6Ms and Ki-43s? In real life the father of the P-47, which was called the P-43 Lancer, has only one confirmed kill. But I would love to fly it, and I would pay more to have a rare plane. The Vultee P-66 was not adopted by the US Air Force, but China adopted and flew some of them. Wouldn't you like to fly the plane that gave rise to the Corsair? The North American P-64, which was a single-seat version of the famous Texan T-6 trainer that was used in combat in Peru, and was adopted by the Americans only as a trainer, but I would love to fly it. We are too focused on more of the same, and we are missing out on other opportunities that the history of aerial combat has left us. I'm not sure if the Americans gave any Grumman F2Fs or F3Fs to Spain. But they would make a great SCW collectible. Edited October 9, 2024 by =BLW=Pablo
Carlos_Cota_517 Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 (edited) On 10/10/2024 at 1:52 AM, Avimimus said: Nice post! Thank you Spoiler Honestly, I really want a fast Yak with an ADI for GB, and this one could fit really well in the Odessa map as a middle ground between the early Yaks we already have and the almost-superprop Yak-3 that is coming to the game Edited November 20, 2024 by Carlos_Cota_517 Cool image 1
LuftManu Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 Interesting addition, specially for the Karelia map and Leningrad front @Carlos_Cota_517! 1
Jackfraser24 Posted October 11, 2024 Posted October 11, 2024 Do-217 E-4 - 10 Reasons Why The Do-217 E-4 was used extensively on the Eastern Front, so it would have a place in pilot career in modules such as Moscow, Stalingrad, Kuban, Karelia and Odessa, which is where I think is really needed. The Do-217 came in multiple variants (other the the Do-217K/M, the plane I suggested last) so I believe it would be rather important to have more than just one Do-217 in the game to represent the Do-217 family. If the dev team were to make several Do-217 variants/sub-variants for Great Battles, the E-4 could be a good variant to start with because the E version was the first to be built, and was probably not as complex systems wise, and would be a good base model if they wanted to move onto other variants. The Do-217 E-4 or E variant in general were very different to later models, with the most notable difference being the traditional shaped cockpit instead of having a glazed one, and performances were different too. The Do-217 E-4 was a tried and true level bomber without any dive breaks. It would be good to have another German bomber with a traditional un-glazed cockpit and for some people not have to worry about having to dive-bomb in pilot career. The Do-217 E-4 was similar to it's predecessor E Sub-variants the E-1, E-2 and E-3 and it's successor sub-variants as well. My point here is is that they could sell this version of the Do-217 collector plane collectively as the Do-217E, which would increase it's value. The Do-217 E-4, along with other variants of the sharpened versions of the "flying pencil" are in War Thunder. I understand that Gaijin Entertainment has a bigger budget and a bigger fan base, but I believe that IL-2 would do a better job representing the Do-217 in combat flight simulation. The Do-217 E-4 were built in relatively great numbers (500+), so this was also a numerically important subvariant of the Do-217E. And it was a nice looking version of the Do-217. Therefore all the more reason. It would appeal to players whose ancestors flew the Do-217E during the war, fans of the Do-217E or players who want to just have something new to fly in Great Battles, which I think having new aircraft are important to keep the hype up around IL-2. I don't know much about economics or business but I think that making the Do-217 E-4 would help bring in more revenue. 1
Avimimus Posted October 11, 2024 Posted October 11, 2024 It is worth adding that the E4 was used earlier and persisted until the withdrawal of the Do-217 (alongside the later M and K which were optimised for night bombing and/or altitude). It is also interesting due to its high wing loading - in contrast the Ju-188 has a smaller bombload, should be easier (if less interesting) to fly, has a stronger defensive armament, and a better view from the cockpit. 1
=BLW=Pablo Posted October 11, 2024 Posted October 11, 2024 I think the Romanian He-112s would make a great pair with the IAR 80.
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 11, 2024 1CGS Posted October 11, 2024 Guys, let's be clear here: at this point any of these GB collector planes you want would have to be initiated by a third-party team. All work on any new planes by our modelers is going into Korea and then the Pacific, not GB. 5
Jackfraser24 Posted October 11, 2024 Posted October 11, 2024 3 hours ago, LukeFF said: Guys, let's be clear here: at this point any of these GB collector planes you want would have to be initiated by a third-party team. All work on any new planes by our modelers is going into Korea and then the Pacific, not GB. Will aircraft for the Karelia map need to be made by third party developers too?
=BLW=Pablo Posted October 12, 2024 Posted October 12, 2024 6 hours ago, LukeFF said: Yes Is there any possibility of seeing an AVG (Flying Tigers) in the Pacific?
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 12, 2024 1CGS Posted October 12, 2024 11 minutes ago, =BLW=Pablo said: Is there any possibility of seeing an AVG (Flying Tigers) in the Pacific? Anything is of course theoretically possible in the new series. 1 1
Aapje Posted October 12, 2024 Posted October 12, 2024 15 hours ago, LukeFF said: Yes I assume that this only refers to the 3D-modelling, but 1CGS would then still make the flight model, right?
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 12, 2024 1CGS Posted October 12, 2024 6 hours ago, Aapje said: I assume that this only refers to the 3D-modelling, but 1CGS would then still make the flight model, right? Yes, all flight modeling is done in house. 1
Jackfraser24 Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 On 10/12/2024 at 3:59 PM, LukeFF said: Anything is of course theoretically possible in the new series. I am sorry I was going on about new aircraft for Great Battles. It was something I just liked to do in my spare time. If you don’t want me to do it anymore, I’ll stop doing it in this thread. I listened to what they had to say in the brief room 11 and they’ve made it pretty clear that Great Battles is finished. I appreciate now the amount of work, time and resources that they are dedicating to this new project, and that it takes such a long time and a lot of people’s dedication to make these planes.
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 13, 2024 1CGS Posted October 13, 2024 Nah, it's fine to talk about stuff like this, but I just wanted to step in and let everyone know that development for GB is winding down. 1 1
Jackfraser24 Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 1 hour ago, LukeFF said: Nah, it's fine to talk about stuff like this, but I just wanted to step in and let everyone know that development for GB is winding down. I understand. IL-2 must keep up with the times if they were to compete with other games like War Thunder, DCS and Combat Pilot. The game building technology they have for Great Battles is outdated, or that’s at least what I got from Briefing Room 11. But hats off to them for making it all work! But I guess they have to move on now.
ITAF_Rani Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 4 hours ago, LukeFF said: Nah, it's fine to talk about stuff like this, but I just wanted to step in and let everyone know that development for GB is winding down. The future of IL2 GB, is in our hands now....start to think wich people can help to develop planes and maps and show them to Devs..this is the only way to give future at this sim... 1
GOA_AveFenix506*VR* Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 This could be a great chance for people with talent and passion for aviation and history for squeeze if devs allow and support, for make third party modules, planes, objects, etc, because IL2 Great Battles has s great potential as WW2 definitive Flight Simulator, many of us will want to remain on ww2 simulation rather than The Korean War, a simulation war that will be stuck on F86 and Mig 15 only. I hope that someday IL2 GB will be full of planes, modules, etc as IL2 1946 on his golden days. Regards. 1 2
Jackfraser24 Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 4 hours ago, GOA_SinVaselina_VR said: I hope that someday IL2 GB will be full of planes, modules, etc as IL2 1946 on his golden days. Regards. I hope you’re right about this. 1
Jackfraser24 Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 12 hours ago, ITAF_Rani said: The future of IL2 GB, is in our hands now....start to think wich people can help to develop planes and maps and show them to Devs..this is the only way to give future at this sim... In that case the crowd that is making the Karelia map really should make this list of planes. Blenheim Mk.IV Buffalo Mk.I Do-17 Z-2 D.XXI Sarja Gladiator Mk.II G.50 Hawk 81 A-2 Morko Morane
ITAF_Rani Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said: In that case the crowd that is making the Karelia map really should make this list of planes. Blenheim Mk.IV Buffalo Mk.I Do-17 Z-2 D.XXI Sarja Gladiator Mk.II G.50 Hawk 81 A-2 Morko Morane The Devs will not develop other planes for IL2, they were clear about that... All what the ll do is to assist the 3rd parts. Devs are focused on developing Korea and Pacific. Edited October 14, 2024 by ITAF_Rani
Jackfraser24 Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 28 minutes ago, ITAF_Rani said: The Devs will not develop other planes for IL2, they were clear about that... All what the ll do is to assist the 3rd parts. Devs are focused on developing Korea and Pacific. I’m well aware of that. I should have been more specific and have said third party developers. Sorry for the confusion.
Jackfraser24 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 If they could do only another ten aircraft for Great Battles here is what I think would be most necessary. Trust me this was a hard list to make, since one thing you must already know about me is that I would want them to do every variant of every aircraft that fought in WWII! But I know that they can't and that they have to move on now to Korea. And I also appreciate the fact that it takes a lot of time, money and effort into making each and every one of those aircraft. Axis Bf-109 G-10 (Bodenplatte, numerically important variant) Fw-190 A-9 (Bodenplatte, pioneering in fly-by-wire technology) Ju-87 D-5 (Kuban, Odessa, Normandy and Bodeplatte, more similar to the D-3 than the B-2) Ju-188 A-2 (Normandy and Bodenplatte, design derived from the Ju-88 and can be built upon it, and we need a late war German bomber) Mc.200 Serie XIII (Moscow and Stalingrad, would replace the fictitious Mc.202 pilot career) Allies A-20G (Kuban, Odessa, Normandy and Bodenplatte, a long desired A-20 variant) Beaufighter Mk.VI (Normandy and Bodenplatte, was an important British aircraft and would complement the Mosquito Mk.VI) IL-2 Model 1944 (Odessa, the game is called IL-2 and Odessa needs a 1944 version of the IL-2) Pe-3bis (Moscow, Stalingrad, Kuban and Odessa, long desired aircraft) Yak-9D (Odessa, numerically important variant of the Yak-9, and were many on the Eastern Front in 1944)
Jackfraser24 Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 Fi-156C Storch - 10 Reasons Why The Fi-156 in general would be a fun plane to fly in. It has a low stalling speed of 50 km/h, and though it was unarmed, there are some missions that it can do in pilot career mode such as aerial reconnaissance, and personal transportation. It could be used on any map in the game. The Fi-156 would be a new kind of plane to have in IL-2 Great Battles and would introduce a new role to pilot career. Imagine being able to fly all these commanders around such as Erwin Rommel, and other commanders that were way more despicable (I won't mention them here). The Fi-156 numerous, with about 2,900 units were built (according to Wikipedia), and was used in many places from Western and Eastern Europe to North Africa and Italy. It had a large impact on the aerial warfare aspect of WWII. The Fi-156 would also be useful to have in multiplayer as a reconnaissance aircraft in order to spot artillery and enemy aircraft for your team mates, which would be crucial in achieving victory on the battlefield. The Fi-156 being added into the game would be a great opportunity to have a campaign made for it, where you could fly either fictional or non-fictional transport operations of army personal. The Fi-156 was one of the many aircraft in IL-2 1946 and I think that the Fi-156 is due to make another appearance in IL-2, whether it is to be made by the IL-2 development team or by a third party company. The Fi-156 being added in could create a call for other liaison aircraft to come into the game such as the American Taylorcraft L-2 Grasshopper, British Westland Lysander, German Bf-108 Taifun, and Fw-189 Uhu. The Fi-156 being added into Great Battles and integrated into Pilot Career mode would commemorate the plane's service during WWII and would honor the pilots that risked or gave their lives flying missions in those aircraft. There are many Fi-156s still around today so (from what I understand) the plane would be relatively easy for the IL-2 development team or third parties to study compared to having to research a type of plane where no known examples exist fully intact. Overall I think that people would really enjoy flying the Fi-156 Storch and I believe that it would sell really well and get positive reviews. 2
Jackfraser24 Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 Fw-189A - 10 Reasons Why The Fw-189A would offer a midsized reconnaissance aircraft to players flying in Pilot career especially on the Eastern Front and in multiplayer. The Fw-189A could also be used as a light bomber as well as a reconnaissance aircraft, which would be useful for those sorts of missions. The Fw-189 was used heavily on the Eastern Front and therefore would have a big part to play in Stalingrad, Moscow, Kuban, Karelia and Odessa. The Fw-189A would come in two sun-variants. The A-1 and A-2 had different armament and armament arrangement from each other. The Fw-189A was in the original IL-2 1946, and with its heavy use on the Eastern Front, I think it is overdue for an updated version in IL-2. The Fw-189A has one survivor surviving into this day and age and I am sure there are enough resources to digitally build one for a game. The Fw-189A would also be an interesting plane to fly in advanced quick mission builder missions, like carrying out reconnaissance or light bombing. The Fw-189A was also a manoeuvrable plane, which was a real challenge for Soviet fighters to target so flying it in multiplayer will keep enemy fighters busy! The Fw-189A being added for Pilot career would honour the memories of those who risked or had their lives taken flying these planes. The Fw-189A would appeal to those wanting it, enjoying recon missions for multiplayer or pilot career, or those who just want something a little different for IL-2. 1
Jackfraser24 Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 Fw-190 A-4 - 10 Reasons Why The Fw-190 A-4 saw service on all fronts of WWII in Europe. The A-4 should be in Kuban pilot career mode as well Leningrad and Normandy. The Fw-190 A-4 would also be useful in case any third party wanted to make a North African module based on the battles of El Alamein or Tunisia. The Fw-190 A-4 saw hundreds of units built from 1942 up until 1943, therefore it was a numerically an important variant of the Fw-190. The Fw-190 A-4 was better than the A-3 in terms of armament, engine performance, refined aerodynamics and better visibility for pilots. The Fw-190 A-4 had advantages over the A-5 in terms of being a better dogfighter due to its higher power to weight ratio and manoeuvrability. The Fw-190 A-4 would act as an evolutionary link between the 190 A-3 and A-5. This isn’t really a good point but it’s worth noting nonetheless. The Fw-190 A-4 was in the original IL-2 first generation series. I think that it is due for another incarnation in combat flight simulation that’s not WT. There should be enough resources on the Fw-190 A-4 to model one for Great Battles in terms of design and performance and on 190 A-4 sorties. Having the Fw-190 A-4 for Great Battles would fill in gaps in the pilot career mode, as well as honour the service on the airmen that flew them. The Fw-190 A-4 would appeal to those who like the aircraft, or those whose ancestors flew that very model and to those who like doing pilot career missions. 1
Carlos_Cota_517 Posted November 29, 2024 Posted November 29, 2024 Yak-9M was also the most produced variant of the war, with over four thousand units assembled, from May 1944 to June 1945...
the_emperor Posted November 29, 2024 Posted November 29, 2024 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Carlos_Cota_517 said: Yak-9M was also the most produced variant of the war, with over four thousand units assembled, from May 1944 to June 1945... But it also shows, that the weight of a more modern Airframe and equipment took its toll and that the Klimov engine was really struggling to keep the fighter competitive due to its low power output. Edited November 29, 2024 by the_emperor 2
Carlos_Cota_517 Posted November 29, 2024 Posted November 29, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, the_emperor said: But it also shows, that the weight of a more modern Airframe and equipment took its toll and that the Klimov engine was really struggling to keep the fighter competitive due to its low power output. Yes; part of the reason why I'm also insisting about the importance of it's modifications, and in particular the slightly more advanced ВК-105ПФ2 engine (and maybe the АГП-2 ADI too)... It won't be as good as the Yak-3 or Yak-9U, but it might be an improvement over the Yak-9/T Slower than the Yak-3, but faster than the Yak-9/T; longer range than the Yak-3, but shorter than the Yak-9/T. It's stand out feature would be it's role as a night fighter, but only with the modifications installed Edited November 29, 2024 by Carlos_Cota_517
Jackfraser24 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) Fw-190 A-9 - 5 Reasons Why The Fw-190 A-9 was a significant late war sub-variant of the Anton series in terms of number built, being part of the infancy of flyby wire systems and being the last of the Anton's, yet it has not been seen in a lot in recent Combat Flight simulation so this would give IL-2 something new to the table to offer. The Fw-190 A-9 would complement the various late war fighters in Great Battles like the the Bf-109 G-14, K-4, and Fw-190 A-8 and Me-262 to name a few on the Bodenplatte map and pilot career in terms of intercepting, air escort and ground attack. The Fw-190 A-9 if made, would also be readily available in case ther were to be a late 1944-early 1945 late war Eastern Front module such as Berlin or Balaton (it would have to be done by a third party though as I know 1CGS is practically done with Great Battles). The Fw-190 A-9, even though it is just one aircraft, would help add a little more diversity to the Luftwaffe when it comes to Advanced Quick Mission Builder and pilot career mode, which I think would make the gameplay even more attractive for players to immerse themselves into. The Fw-190 A-9 would be a popular plane amongst players as it would be a formidable yet challenging aircraft to fly. Edited December 14, 2024 by Jackfraser24
FTC_ChilliBalls Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 IMO one of THE defining planes of the war that is still missing and would I believe be highly received in the form I propose is the 1942 Spitfire. The Mk V "Late" with the Merlin 55 as standard and the 55M, as well as the 61 as engine options would do much to fill the gap that exists in between the current Mk Vb and the Mk IXc. If I have understood it correctly, many of the visual changes in between the two aforementioned variants we have in game were actually implemented with the Mk V already, such as the internal armoured glass I believe, meaning there would only be limited changes in between a late Mk V and an early Mk IX. 1 1
Jackfraser24 Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, FTC_ChilliBalls said: IMO one of THE defining planes of the war that is still missing and would I believe be highly received in the form I propose is the 1942 Spitfire. The Mk V "Late" with the Merlin 55 as standard and the 55M, as well as the 61 as engine options would do much to fill the gap that exists in between the current Mk Vb and the Mk IXc. If I have understood it correctly, many of the visual changes in between the two aforementioned variants we have in game were actually implemented with the Mk V already, such as the internal armoured glass I believe, meaning there would only be limited changes in between a late Mk V and an early Mk IX. A Spitfire Mk.Vc and a Spitfire Mk.IXc model 1942 would be nice, yes. But I think we really need a Beaufighter Mk.VI and Mosquito Mk.IV more right now for Normandy and Bodenplatte. It would appeal more to British fans. Edited December 19, 2024 by Jackfraser24 1
Jackfraser24 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) Fw-190 D-13 - Five Reasons Why Bodenplatte pilot career mode would benefit in a small way by having another aircraft to fight in and do ground attack missions in, and it would help enrich the game play by increasing the diversity of pilot career. There is already a surviving specimen in Seattle Paine Field, Washington so having an actual Fw-190 D-13 around would be a fantastic place for developers to start researching the aircraft type. Adding in more collector planes like the D-13 would keep IL-2 Great Battles fresh and relevant and would be another source of revenue for 1CGS so this can help bolster development of their future series. A gross oversimplification, but I see this could help fund future products. No combat flight simulation base game or module has a Fw-190 D-13 other than War Thunder, so I think it would be good for a game where you just pay to get the plane and don't have to spend hours playing just to level up to have a D-13, such as IL-2. Axis players in multiplayer on the Bodenplatte map could do with another plane. Edited January 7 by Jackfraser24 1
Jackfraser24 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Fw-200C Condor - Five Reasons Why The Fw-200C Condor was used at Stalingrad in the last month of the battle (February) to attempt to relive the 6th Army, though it was all in vain. In fact, nine Condors were lost at the Battle of Stalingrad so I think it would be a good idea to honor their in vain sacrifice in a game that already exists but does not have them in there. The Fw-200C Condor was in the original IL-2 1946 as a non-flyable plane, so I think that it would be nice to actually have a fly-able Condor in the series. I also think that IL-2 also needs a four engine bomber in the game to make it even more appealing than what it is now. One Condor actually still exists after being reconstructed where it now rests in Tempelhof, Germany, so this would be a good place for 1CGS hired researchers to start researching the plane. The Fw-200C Condor could also be used as a regular heavy bomber over land in Advanced Quick Mission Builder as well as a naval bomber for Kuban and Normandy anti shipping, which I think we need more specialized naval aircraft in the game with better suited equipment. The Fw-200C Condor would be useful for its range in multiplayer. 1 1
Enceladus828 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 15 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said: Fw-200C Condor - Five Reasons Why Jack, a 3rd party team is not going to make the Fw-200 or any 4 engine aircraft just because, technically speaking, it was there. Even if a team wanted to, wouldn’t you think that it would be more worth their time and receive a greater Return on Investment if they made a B-17? 1
Jackfraser24 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 3 hours ago, Enceladus828 said: Jack, a 3rd party team is not going to make the Fw-200 or any 4 engine aircraft just because, technically speaking, it was there. Even if a team wanted to, wouldn’t you think that it would be more worth their time and receive a greater Return on Investment if they made a B-17? I see your point, though I must tell you this. I’ve assigned myself a challenge to “sell” all the WWII planes I think would be worth doing as a good idea in alphabetical order starting with German planes. Then Italian planes that fought on the Eastern Front, but I don’t think there will be much point in doing a Japanese one because Great Battles is not going to the Asia-Pacific region. Then I’ll go to the allied planes.
BraveSirRobin Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Jackfraser24 said: I see your point, though I must tell you this. I’ve assigned myself a challenge to “sell” all the WWII planes I think would be worth doing as a good idea in alphabetical order starting with German planes. Then Italian planes that fought on the Eastern Front, but I don’t think there will be much point in doing a Japanese one because Great Battles is not going to the Asia-Pacific region. Then I’ll go to the allied planes. Time well spent. I assume you are retired? 1
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