FliegerAD Posted February 25, 2024 Posted February 25, 2024 14 minutes ago, Bonnot said: ...WHAT ! No NEW 109 and No 24th Spitfire in the pipeline ???? ??? Unless there is another late European War GB module the 109 G-10 will certainly come as a collector's plane sooner or later. Same for the 190 A-9. I think the A-9 would offer more gameplay-wise but we will see. Anyway, I do not see the problem. Yes, we probably do not need the G-10 in terms of gameplay. But many people will find joy in it and pay for the development of future titles by buying it. Seems like a win-win-situation for me. Obviously, I would prefer the Ju 88 R-2 or the Pe-3 but let us face it: the Spit and 109 guys are far more numerous and commercially more attractive.
SupremeLoser Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 (edited) Here are a few fighter aircraft I would love to see available. Starting with the ones I think would be most appreciated to fill in historically at the top of the list: 1) La-7 - this is the final evolution of the Lavochkin fighter during WWII. Would give the Russians a plane to compete with the likes of the ME 109 K4 and FW-190D9. 2) Yak 9U (VK-107) - the definitive Yak-9 variant with powerful 1650hp Klimov VK-107 engine. The final evolution of the Yak platform. This would round out the highest performing Russian fighter planes. 3) Yak 3 (VK-107) - perhaps the best Russian fighter of the war? Might even be the best low to mid altitude turn fighter of the war. Though the Tempest platform is hard to beat. A smaller and even lighter brother aircraft to the Yak 9 with the powerful 1650hp Klimov VK-107 engine. The principle of stuffing the most powerful engine in the smallest/lightest airframe possible. A hotrodders dream. If there is interest in allowing planes that were not available during WWII, but some really high performers that shortly followed, these are aircraft that would provide so much pleasure to fly and engage in battles: 1) P-51H - the lightweight Mustang. They produced a few hundred of them, but unfortunately they did not make it to the front in time. This is the ultimate version of the P-51 for the role of a high altitude interceptor. Not quite as robust as the endearing P-51D (which is probably a major reason they used the D models in Korea instead of the H... the D model could carry more bombs/rockets, could take more damage and were fast enough for a ground attack role at that point when the jets took over the air combat role), but hey, you have to give up something to gain something, right? Over 2200hp in WEP and lighter weight combined with refined aerodynamics. Top speed of 487mph makes this the fastest high altitude piston engine fighter in significant numbers... well just a few hundred before they were cancelled, but more than say 1 or 2 prototypes of a couple that were a hair faster. This is my most desired plane to fly period. 2) Grumman F8F Bearcat. Between this and the Hawker Sea Fury, they are probably the best piston fighters ever for the role of a midrange low to mid altitude combat fighter. While the P-51 was great, and the go to fighter for long distance escort use and high altitudes, these planes were the ones to use for combat closer to the front and the typical engagement circumstances. Extremely fast, high rate of climb, very maneuverable. The ultimate fighter with a double wasp engine. They produced these right at the end of WWII. They were actually delivered to a fighter squadron a few months before the end of the war, but unfortunately (or fortunately however you look at it) they never saw combat. Powered by a 2250hp Double Wasp radial they were actually less powerful than the P-47 or F4U Corsair. But with a top speed of 455mph and a climb rate of close to 4500ft/min it was significantly higher performing. It actually had a similar power rating to the previous F6F Hellcat, but it was significantly smaller and lighter along with better aerodynamics giving it the drastic performance improvement. 3) Hawker Sea Fury. The Hawker Hurricane, Typhoon and then Tempest were some of the most robust and powerful low to mid altitude fighter aircraft. I have found in this simulation that the Tempest is one of my favorites. I would say, based on this simulation and after flying other top Allied performers such as the P-51D, Spitfire XIV and Yak 1b, if my life depended on it I would take a Tempest hands down. Turns on a dime, accelerates and climbs like nobody's business, and a very stable platform to make accurate use of the powerful cannons. I find the Hawkers in general have the most stable gunnery platform and that is worth a lot in combat. The Tempest never lets me down when the combat gets heated. I find it has the highest kill rate of any plane I've tried in IL-2. If I get shot down in it, it's my own fault and I would have been shot down even sooner in any other the other choices. The Sea Fury is the ultimate evolution of the Tempest IMHO. Between it, the Bearcat and P-51 you have the fastest racing planes and they are competitive with each other... so that gives indication of the high performance and great design of these warbirds. Powered by a 2480hp Bristol Centaurus engine and capable of 460mph and over 4000ft/min climb rate coupled with the sort of turn performance, stability and firepower that the Hawker line was well known for. 4) Supermarine Spiteful/Seafang - I listed both because the Spiteful was the land based version but only a handful were built. It was developed into the Seafang carrier based version. With a 2350hp RR Griffon engine and a top speed of 483mph/475mph (Spiteful/Seafire) and an astounding climb rate of nearly 5000ft/min this was a real beast to fly! It is the ultimate Spitfire! Not as stable as the Tempest and not nearly as easy to get a good aim with the cannons, it is however, a higher performing aircraft in the hands of an ace pilot. Very sensitive controls and will maneuver incredibly tight, but at the same time with the novice or even veteran pilot it can easily bite back at you. Analogous to a temperamental hotrod in the air. Once you master this one though, it is a real joy to fly,. I know I have been saying "ultimate" for each of these, but these four aircraft are basically the final/ultimate evolution of each of these great and definitive fighters. The last hoorah of the piston fighter plane before the jets took over! Edited March 6, 2024 by Spitfire_Enthusiast1 1
[CPT]Crunch Posted February 26, 2024 Posted February 26, 2024 Don't forget to put M.3 guns in that 51-H, higher velocity with faster firing rate. They became available and entered combat after mid Jan 45. 1
Jackfraser24 Posted February 27, 2024 Posted February 27, 2024 On 2/26/2024 at 12:46 PM, FliegerAD said: Unless there is another late European War GB module the 109 G-10 will certainly come as a collector's plane sooner or later. Same for the 190 A-9. I think the A-9 would offer more gameplay-wise but we will see. Anyway, I do not see the problem. Yes, we probably do not need the G-10 in terms of gameplay. But many people will find joy in it and pay for the development of future titles by buying it. Seems like a win-win-situation for me. Obviously, I would prefer the Ju 88 R-2 or the Pe-3 but let us face it: the Spit and 109 guys are far more numerous and commercially more attractive. We’ll have to wait and see what is going to come. I think that they are going to finish Great Battles and go on to the “New Project.”
Jackfraser24 Posted March 2, 2024 Posted March 2, 2024 Tupolev SB-2 Medium Bomber If I have done this one before, my apologies. Reasons for doing it. Great Battles needs more early Eastern Front aircraft to fill in the blanks in pilot career. There should be another Soviet bomber set for Battle of Moscow pilot career. The best we have is the Pe-2 Series 35, which is more of a heavy fighter and a dive bomber. About 6,600 SB bombers were built. Because it was that numerous, and such a common sight on the early Eastern Front, I think it is more than relivent enough to have in Great Battles. Would appeal to many Soviet bomber fans, or bomber fans in general. It's not a big bomber so making the SB-2 shouldn't take that long. It was in IL-2 1946 as a non-playable plane. It would be nice to see it as a playable aircraft in Great Battles. There's a SB bomber at the Central Air Force Museum, which is close to where the developers work. The SB bomber would enhance the Odessa and Kerelia pilot career experience once those maps are done. It's a fast bomber, and would be best suited for missions needing a fast bomber. It would make it difficult for enemy fighters to catch up to it in time. If sold as a collector plane, I think people really would buy it because of it's speed and relatively small size, adequate payload (600kgs) and lots of ammunition for the rear tail gunner to fire. 3
BraveSirRobin Posted March 2, 2024 Posted March 2, 2024 53 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said: Tupolev SB-2 Medium Bomber If I have done this one before, my apologies. Reasons for doing it. Great Battles needs more early Eastern Front aircraft to fill in the blanks in pilot career. There should be another Soviet bomber set for Battle of Moscow pilot career. The best we have is the Pe-2 Series 35, which is more of a heavy fighter and a dive bomber. About 6,600 SB bombers were built. Because it was that numerous, and such a common sight on the early Eastern Front, I think it is more than relivent enough to have in Great Battles. Would appeal to many Soviet bomber fans, or bomber fans in general. It's not a big bomber so making the SB-2 shouldn't take that long. It was in IL-2 1946 as a non-playable plane. It would be nice to see it as a playable aircraft in Great Battles. There's a SB bomber at the Central Air Force Museum, which is close to where the developers work. The SB bomber would enhance the Odessa and Kerelia pilot career experience once those maps are done. It's a fast bomber, and would be best suited for missions needing a fast bomber. It would make it difficult for enemy fighters to catch up to it in time. If sold as a collector plane, I think people really would buy it because of it's speed and relatively small size, adequate payload (600kgs) and lots of ammunition for the rear tail gunner to fire. You know there is absolutely no chance that they’re going to make this aircraft, right? 1
BlitzPig_EL Posted March 4, 2024 Posted March 4, 2024 Hawk 75/P36 Brewster Buffalo/B239 P39Q P40 M and N P51A/Mustang I 2
Jackfraser24 Posted March 4, 2024 Posted March 4, 2024 P-40M (10 reasons why) I think hundreds of the M variant were sent to the Soviet Union and fought on the Eastern Front. Would be good to commemorate that fact by having them in pilot career for Kuban and other 1943-45 Eastern Front maps that are bound to be made. It would also help fill in more gaps. This variant was a major improvement over the P-40E variant we have now. It would go to show that not all in the line of P-40 variants were that obsolete nor had an underpowered engine. The Allison 1710-18 engine it used had a maximum horsepower of 1,200 hp on takeoff and 1,125 hp at 17,300 ft. The P-40M was essentially a P-40K but with an Allison 1710-18 engine instead of having a Merlin engine. That way, they could make and sell the product as two planes or do what they did with the P-51B and do it for a higher price. Was in the original IL-2 1946 game. It would be good to have an updated/upgraded reincarnation of this plane in Great Battles. Would appeal to Warhawk fans and fans of aircraft involved in the Soviet lend lease agreement. It would contribute by diversifying the amount of planes that served on the Eastern Front for Pilot Career and AQMB, and make things look more historically accurate. Every new collector plane added does this. It would keep the Great Battles fans entertained. It’s always exciting when new aircraft come out. It’s not like they are going to return to the European Theatre of Operations anytime soon. With their new project they will likely go to Korea and then do the Pacific, and then I’d say possibly the Med. I think that any Eastern Front modules would be last on the long list of priorities. Would also have a use in pilot career on the upcoming Karelia map, where I think these variants did carry out sorties. War Thunder doesn’t have a P-40M. I’d like to see Great Battles beat them to it here. 2
Jackfraser24 Posted March 6, 2024 Posted March 6, 2024 (edited) Do-335 It’s a pretty unique aircraft and oddly quite beautiful. Would have been a formidable fighter with its two Daimler Benz engines producing thrust from each end. Would be cool to have as an option in Pilot Career. Even though it may not have flown any combat missions, if they can make up a pilot career for the upcoming Ta-152, they could do it for the Do-335. There is a surviving aircraft at the Washington Air and Space Museum for them to study. Would attract quite a lot of buyers. One of the fastest propeller planes ever built - 768 km/h (477 mph) - would be desired by many players. Was a heavy fighter. This game needs a contemporary heavy fighter for 1945. Come to think of it, Great Battles could do with the Do-335 because it would make the spring Bodenplatte map feel even more like we’re in the late war period. It’s not likely they will be going to have a module involving German planes again for a while so they might as well fit in all they can into the end days of development of the Great Battles series. Would appeal to a lot of late war plane enthusiasts, especially those who like German late war planes. I think it would be a well loved plane to fly in the sim. It’s fast, has powerful engines, decent range (<2,060 km) and powerful cannon armament would be well received. Edited March 7, 2024 by Jackfraser24 1
SupremeLoser Posted March 6, 2024 Posted March 6, 2024 I made a few updates to the original post above. Added the Yak 3 with the VK-107 to my wish list... how could I forget? Also, added a little more description about the aircraft to give at least a little more perspective about their strengths vs weaknesses and the roles they had. On 2/26/2024 at 4:35 PM, [CPT]Crunch said: Don't forget to put M.3 guns in that 51-H, higher velocity with faster firing rate. They became available and entered combat after mid Jan 45. That is a good point! I also like how accurate the US planes were using the machine guns at a distance. The P-51 is quite a stable gunnery platform. Couple that with a higher velocity/rate of fire and they become even better! The other gunnery platform I really like is the Tempest. Also very stable and has very powerful cannons. A slower rate, but a lot of punch of course! 1
SupremeLoser Posted March 8, 2024 Posted March 8, 2024 My vote is that since we can't have it all to focus on fighters, those are the planes that are truly fascinating to fly... the hotrods of the sky. The biggest thing missing when it comes to having a fair fight are the later Russian fighters: La-7 and Yak 3 are the two that we need the most IMHO (especially with VK-107 engine for the Yak). Later P40 variants and also the Allison engined Mustang for ground attack role. Also, the planes that were at the very beginning of the war, mainly Hurricane, Spitfire and Me109 models that were used during the Battle of Britain. 1
Jackfraser24 Posted March 8, 2024 Posted March 8, 2024 10 minutes ago, Spitfire_Enthusiast1 said: My vote is that since we can't have it all to focus on fighters, those are the planes that are truly fascinating to fly... the hotrods of the sky. The biggest thing missing when it comes to having a fair fight are the later Russian fighters: La-7 and Yak 3 are the two that we need the most IMHO (especially with VK-107 engine for the Yak). Later P40 variants and also the Allison engined Mustang for ground attack role. Also, the planes that were at the very beginning of the war, mainly Hurricane, Spitfire and Me109 models that were used during the Battle of Britain. I want to see the Bf-109 E-4 and the Fw-190 A-4 so badly! Those significant variants played a large role on the Eastern Front. The Bf-109 E-4 was used at Moscow and right up to the Battle of Stalingrad. 1
Jackfraser24 Posted March 9, 2024 Posted March 9, 2024 He-162A Collector Plane (10 reasons why) Unconventional looking fighter yet pretty cool looking plane. Would have a place in pilot career mode on the Bodenplatte map, whether the sorties were historically real or made up by the developers. Would also be cool in multiplayer to fly. Imagine shooting down your enemies in such as flimsy plane, making them feel silly! The 162 has a few features that would be well received among players like the BMW 003 engine on top of the plane, it’s top speed of 840 km/h, it’s two MG 151/20 auto-cannons and it being the first plane to have an ejection seat. The 162 is a heavily flawed plane as well, which makes the plane all the more interesting and harder to fly. For one it’s airframe is largely made of wood with glue holding it together so you’d want to be gentle with the controls. Also it had a low fuel capacity and very low ammunition load. There are several surviving air frames left in the world for the developers to study. It was in the original IL-2 1946 plane list (sorry I keep repeating myself there). It would be nice to see Great Battles having all three of the Luftwaffe’s jet planes that saw at least some military service (others being the Me-262 and the A-234). The 162A would come in two sub-variants- the A-1 (which had two 30mm MK-108 cannons) and the A-2 (which had two 20mm MG 151/20 cannons). Every new collector plane will help Great Battles in the market while the developers spend the next 10-20 years focusing on their new unnamed project. 1
Bonnot Posted March 11, 2024 Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/9/2024 at 9:17 PM, Jackfraser24 said: Unconventional looking fighter yet pretty cool looking plane. That will really make a change off ME 109 and Spits........although I love both and prefer props to jets, some fresh air is quite exciting ........! 1
Jackfraser24 Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 Bf-109 E-4 (10 reasons why) Was one of the original IL-2 1946 planes. It was used in Stalingrad and Moscow therefore they would fill in the gaps in Pilot career mode. Would have the option of coming with a motor cannon or not, whereas the E-7 does not. I think that the Bf-109E model was the best looking of all the 109 versions. And it would be nice to see another Emil in the Bf-109 lineup. I believe Great Battles needs more 1941 era planes. I think that there are too few for Battle of Moscow career and quick mission builder compared to what there are for other BoX modules. If the Bf-109 G-6AS was important enough to be made for Great Battles, I’m sure they can invest time, money and resources to recreate the E-4. If anybody wanted to make an authentic Battle of Britain video for YouTube with the Normandy map, the E-4 would help make the scenes look even more authentic because they were used more in the Battle of Britain than the E-7. The E-4 is a bit of a downgrade from the E-7, (as the numbering would suggest). It has a less powerful engine, couldn’t carry drop tanks, and had a different canopy. It would make us see how far the Bf-109 had evolved even just within the E series. Would be a useful asset for the upcoming 1941 Odessa and Karelia maps and any future 1941-42 Eastern Front maps that may be made by third party developers. I believe many people would want to buy it. It would be a good adversary to the 1940-41 era Soviet fighter planes like the MiG-3, I-16 and the upcoming I-153. 1
Jackfraser24 Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 (edited) Fw-190 A-4 (10 reasons why) It was present at on the Eastern Front at about 1943. Would be useful to fill in vital gaps that remain in pilot career in Kuban. Was one of the original planes in IL-2 1946. I know that they can’t do them all but I think this one is a must. As one of the earlier Anton sub-variants, it was one of the more manoeuvrable of the 190s. It is missing in the evolutionary line up of 190s on the list. We have the A-3,5,6 and 8 but no A-4. It was built in significant numbers. According to Wikipedia, 976 units were completed between June 1942 and March 1943. Comes with many modifications and accessories such as rocket mortars, compressor air intakes for high altitude fighting and ETC 501 bomb racks. Would be a useful collector plane if some third party wanted to make a Battle of Kursk scenario, or a Tunisia one. The Fw-190 A-4 in particular is a very good boom and zoom fighter. Engine almost never overheats, even in emergency power mode. I believe it would be well received amongst players. Edited March 14, 2024 by Jackfraser24 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted March 14, 2024 1CGS Posted March 14, 2024 There were zero 190s of any type at Stalingrad.
Jackfraser24 Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 30 minutes ago, LukeFF said: There were zero 190s of any type at Stalingrad. I’ll change that then.
AndyJWest Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said: The Fw-190 A-4 in particular is a very good boom and zoom fighter. Really? What makes it better than other variants? Quote Engine almost never overheats, even in emergency power mode. Source please. Edited March 14, 2024 by AndyJWest
Jackfraser24 Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 37 minutes ago, AndyJWest said: Really? What makes it better than other variants? Source please. It was an improvement over it’s predecessor’s the A-1, 2 and 3 in terms of armament, engine power, and and lower empty weight to its successors, the A-5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. ChatGPT 56 minutes ago, AndyJWest said: Engine almost never overheats, even in emergency power mode. War Thunder Wiki.
AndyJWest Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 54 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said: War Thunder Wiki. ROFL 2
Jackfraser24 Posted March 15, 2024 Posted March 15, 2024 P-38L (10 reasons why) This variant saw a lot of service in the Benelux region (which is in the Bodenplatte map). Was in the original IL-2 1946 plane list (sorry to keep repeating myself there). Would come in four variants - the L-1, L-5, L-10 and L-20. All saw service in Benelux in 1944-45. If they sold this as they had done for the IAR-80 they would get more money for it. Many planes from this series alone were built. 3,923 L-1s, 4,411 L-5s, 2,970 L-10s and 2,834 L-20s rolled off the production line. Pilot career mode needs as many gaps filled in. Would appeal to P-38 fans. We only have the P-38J, which is fine and all, but there were way more series than just one. Would be nice to see a P-38 evolutionary line up like there is for the Bf-109 and Fw-190. I think we need to see some more American planes on the Western front than what there are now. All we have are the P-38J, P-47D (2 sub variants), the P-51 B/C and P-51 D-15. Would be well liked amongst players. The P-38L had more powerful engines than the J series, had a longer range, higher top speed and an improved rate of climb. 3
SupremeLoser Posted March 16, 2024 Posted March 16, 2024 I second the P-38L. Forgot about that one. I think it would be very cost effective for various variants of already existing aircraft to be added, provided they fit the historical context of course. That is also why I would recommend filling in a few more variants of the Spitfire (particularly different engine and wing configurations), Hurricane, Bf-109, Fw-190, La-7, Yak-3, etc. The basic planes are already there, just would need some modification for these variants. For the British and German planes it would be nice to see the variants available during the Battle of Britain. Oh, and that more powerful later variant of the P-40 that would be a real competitor with the Bf-109 G6 and FW-190 at sub 10k ft. 1 4
Jackfraser24 Posted March 20, 2024 Posted March 20, 2024 P-47 D-30 (10 reasons why) Was used in Benelux in 1944-45 so it would help fill in more gaps in Pilot career. I think we need to see more American as well as British planes in Great Battles before 1CGS shuts off further development of the game. There are more German planes on the Western Front maps to choose from than Allied planes. I think we need to see more P-47s in the game like there are Bf-109s and Fw-190s. Right now we only have two - the D-22 and D-28. Came with many improvements over the D-28 such as higher fuel capacity, reduced empty weight, was more aerodynamic, had a redesigned cockpit canopy, a reduced risk of electrical failure and modified cowling and exhaust system. About 2,000 were built, so it was a numerically important P-47 variant. It had a ventral fin to promote aerodynamic stability along the yaw axis. It is similar to the P-47 D-28 in a lot of ways so it shouldn’t be too hard for the developers to model the aircraft in. Had a more improved armament compared to the D-28 such as reenforced bomb racks where they could carry various combinations of bombs on underwing hard points. This expanded the P-47’s ground attack capabilities. Had an improved high altitude performance compared to the D-28. All and all I think it would be a likeable plane to have in the sim. 3
Saco_de_Alpha Posted March 23, 2024 Posted March 23, 2024 All thats left is the Ju87 B-2 variant (You know, the one that's in almost every IL-2 Title...). 1
Jackfraser24 Posted March 25, 2024 Posted March 25, 2024 Do-217 K The Do-217K was one of the original IL-2 1946 planes though it was a non-playable aircraft. The Do-217K came in three different versions. The K-1 which was the standard medium bomber, the K-2 which was an anti shipping sun-variant which carried the Fritz X guided bomb, and the K-3 which had a better missile guidance system and shared the K-2’s larger wings. If these variants were sold together they could turn a decent profit. The Do-217 has been wanted for a long time now. The Do-217K had a glazed cockpit like the He-111 and the He-177 did, therefore it would offer the player good frontal visibility. The Do-217K was fast for a bomber - 520 km/h at an altitude of 5,200 meters. The Do-217K had a decent payload of up to 2,000 kgs worth of bombs. The Do-217K would have a place in Normandy and Bodenplatte Pilot Career modes as they did see combat there. The Do-217K would be well liked in Multiplayer mode because of its speed and high payload. I think Great Battles needs more bombers in general. I understand that they take twice or three times as long as single engine fighter planes, but I can see that the Do-217K would be worth the time, money and effort. Overall I think it would be a well liked plane (sorry to repeat myself here and there, I’m just saying that all these suggestions I put up share common reasons). 2
AndyJWest Posted March 25, 2024 Posted March 25, 2024 Wouldn't it be quicker to list the planes you don't want added to the sim? 2 1
Jackfraser24 Posted March 25, 2024 Posted March 25, 2024 2 hours ago, AndyJWest said: Wouldn't it be quicker to list the planes you don't want added to the sim? I don’t have any planes I don’t like. I’ve always loved planes no matter what type.
BraveSirRobin Posted March 25, 2024 Posted March 25, 2024 28 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said: I don’t have any planes I don’t like. I’ve always loved planes no matter what type. These threads are completely pointless. You want every plane. We get it. Which means the threads are all the same. It’s a list of every possible aircraft. Which has absolutely no chance of ever happening. A much more interesting thread might be a list of 14-16 aircraft and then coming up with the 10 best for a module. But I get that it doesn’t fit the “I want everything no matter how ridiculously unlikely” theme that you seem to have established.
Jackfraser24 Posted March 25, 2024 Posted March 25, 2024 1 hour ago, LukeFF said: Guys, let's please watch the tone. Sorry I keep putting up all these collector plane suggestions and repetitive reasons. I do it because just in case a plane I have already done actually does go through to development, I can look back at these posts and say to myself “I knew they’d do it one day!”
1CGS LukeFF Posted March 25, 2024 1CGS Posted March 25, 2024 Guys, enough with the snarky comments. If you don't like what's being discussed, move on and read something else. 1 1
JG27_Abaster Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 (edited) I know most of the suggestions have been mentioned more than once...some even on the very first page already in 2018: (Swastikas are censored or never fully shown) I am sorting by how important i think those planes would be. Overall reasons for choosing exactly this planes are: A) Bringing in a little more diversity and "creating" options for different sorts of missions in single- AND multiplayer (apart from only just "fighter-or-bomber-sorties" #rescue #recon) B) Impact on "everyday war" - no unicorns! C) Eventually being used by more than one country - even across axis AND allies D) The pure anticipation because of the upcoming finnland map (#nobodyneedskorea ? ) 1. Fieseler Fi 156 (Germany, Italy, Japan, Finnland, Hungary. Romania, Croatia) 2. Brewster F2A Buffalo (USA, England, Netherlands, Finnland) 3. Fokker D.XXI (Finnland) {maybe even with optional skis} 4. I-15 (UdSSR) {maybe even with optional skis} 5. Gloster Gladiator (England, Finnland, Germany) {maybe even with optional skis} 6. Bristol Blenheim IV (England, Finnland) 7. Bf 109 G-10 (Germany, Italy) 8. IL-DB3 (UdSSR) 9. Henschel Hs-126 (Germany, Romania) Edited March 28, 2024 by JG27_Abaster 1
ACG_Bussard Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 I'm modest, this one would make me happy for the axis side: Fw 189A Uhu / Owl Reconnaissance and light bomber Numbers built 864 Years of Service fromAugust 1941 - 1945 Used by Germany, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary 3
TempestV Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 Please....No more Messerschmidt 109's. Gotta run now.? 1
Jackfraser24 Posted March 30, 2024 Posted March 30, 2024 On 3/29/2024 at 7:20 AM, TempestV said: Please....No more Messerschmidt 109's. Gotta run now.? I hate to be a pain, but we are still missing the Bf-109 G-10 as well as the Fw-190 A-9. 1
TempestV Posted March 31, 2024 Posted March 31, 2024 First things Last. We should have this. Then we can get a mess of Messerschmidts. Spoiler
Jackfraser24 Posted March 31, 2024 Posted March 31, 2024 22 hours ago, TempestV said: First things Last. We should have this. Then we can get a mess of Messerschmidts. Spoiler That might actually be a good idea. The Fi-156. 1
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