WWII Aircraft Suggested Plane List

[Jackfraser24]

There was no Bf-110 M, right? Would it have been a typo error?

Edited December 2, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[BOO]

1 hour ago, Jackfraser24 said:

There was no Bf-110 M, right? Would it have been a typo error?

Think the text pretty much says as much. The H did not, to my understanding, reach service either.  The allies bombed the factory where the prototypes were being assembled and that seemed to have been the end of that. 

[SharkWolf2022]

 

Mosquito B.XVI

One of the planes I would really like to see as a collector's aircraft.

The Mosquito B.XVI would fill a major hole in the Western Allies roster and provide them with their first flyable bomber that not only has a moderate bombload but retains a speed similar to/slightly better than the FB.VI that is needed to offset the fact it has no offensive or defensive weaponry.

 

The B.XVI has a rather respectable bomb load for its size in the form of a single four thousand pound "Cookie" or four five-hundred-pound bombs along with a single five-hundred-pound bomb on each wing rack for a total of three thousand pounds of ordinance which is three quarters the load of a B25/B26 at a higher altitude.

Although the B.XVI also comes with a pressurized cockpit I find it highly unlikely that will be of much use in game. 

 

Unfortunately, the source I found this information from reports that there are 0 surviving Mosquito B.XVI's remaining. The B.35 model is a more advanced variant of Mosquito Bomber that still has surviving airframes on display but did not see service before the war ended.

 

 

Engines:

Two Rolls Royce Merlin 72/73 or 76/77.

Two stage two speed supercharged intercooled V12 engines.

Coolant                     Ethylene Glycol/Water

Capacity                   1649 cu ins 27 litres.

Max power Merlin 72/73  

           Take Off       1280 hp at 3000 rpm and +12 lbs boost.

                                 1,710 hp at 8,500 ft 18 lbs

                                 1,505 hp at 21,000 ft 18 lbs

 

Max power Merlin 76/77  

           Take Off       1250 hp at 3000 rpm and +12 lbs boost.

                                 1,655 hp at 10,000 ft 18 lbs

                                 1,475 hp at 21,000 ft 18 lbs

 

Gear change                       21,000ft

Max cruise               2650 rpm +7 lbs

Max climb                 2850 rpm +12 lbs

Engine weight          1645/1665 lbs

 

 

Armament:

Total loads of up to 4000lbs:

4 x 500 lb bombs or Target Indicators internally

 

500 lb on each wing racks

 

1 x 4,000 lb HC bomb internally.

 

Information gathered from: 

Mosquito Specifications B XVI (aussiemossie.asn.au)

 

 

 

 

This is my first time posting a suggestion on the forum so I'm not entirely sure what is generally desired in terms of specifications for the suggestions. If you would consider, please give me advice on other things that I should/could include in the future.

[Jackfraser24]

Will V-2s be added into the game? Their were launch sites in the Normandy map area.

[FliegerAD]

Just a little bump, the Ju 88 R-8 was chosen for the cover of this book:

 

 

 

Unfortunately, most ended up this way in Summer 1944 as they were thrown against the invasion and suffered dearly:

 

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by FliegerAD

[Jackfraser24]

When 1CGS moved onto something else, are the third party planes like the IAR-80/81 going to have to meet their expectations and standards - like would it have to be as good (if not better) as how 1CGS would do it? 
 

Also, will there be a lot of freeware aircraft mods coming to Great Battles like there have been with IL-2 1946? Will they have to meet certain requirements and comply with a set of rules before they can be used by players?

 

Thanks.

[Jackfraser24]

We should have got the Mc.200 in Moscow instead of the 202. It was actually present in the battle. Yeah, it was a hunk of junk, but still, it was there.

Edited December 13, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[LukeFF]

42 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

We should have got the Mc.200 in Moscow instead of the 202. It was actually present in the battle. Yeah, it was a hunk of junk, but still, it was there.

 

There were 0 MC.200s anywhere near Moscow. They were all down around Stalingrad.

[Jackfraser24]

Could 1CGS do a 2020s era WWIII fighter module if they wanted to? 

 

[Enceladus828]

On 12/13/2022 at 10:05 AM, LukeFF said:

There were 0 MC.200s anywhere near Moscow. They were all down around Stalingrad.

Not quite, they were all down in the Ukraine and Donbass area during the BoM timeframe and then were based out of the Tatsinskaya airfield during BoS. Source: Macchi C.200 Saetta - Wikipedia

 

On 12/13/2022 at 9:23 AM, Jackfraser24 said:

We should have got the Mc.200 in Moscow instead of the 202.

I somewhat agree with you on this as the MC.200 saw much more action on the Eastern Front compared to the MC.202 which did only 17 sorties at Stalingrad. Speaking of which, why add it as a BoM collector when it wasn't even there, let alone on the Eastern Front? If the community preferred it over the IAR 80 then why didn't they add it as an individual collector (like the Yak-1b, Ju-52, etc.) and pick an Axis plane which actually saw action at Moscow as a BoM Collector?

[LukeFF]

24 minutes ago, Enceladus said:

Not quite, they were all down in the Ukraine and Donbass area during the BoM timeframe and then were based out of the Tatsinskaya airfield during BoS. Source: Macchi C.200 Saetta - Wikipedia

 

Yes, I know that - and Tatsinskaya is on our Stalingrad map.

[[CPT]milopugdog]

20 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Could 1CGS do a 2020s era WWIII fighter module if they wanted to? 

 

A cold-war missile control simulator would be more interesting. Launch?!? No launch?!?

 

Where did my potato chips go?????

[Ghost666]

46 minutes ago, [CPT]milopugdog said:

A cold-war missile control simulator would be more interesting. Launch?!? No launch?!?

 

Where did my potato chips go?????

During the cold war I was a security specialist (USAF SP) working in the missile field. Potato chips were not a big thing with the capsule crews, but they did request Moon Pies and Little Debbies all the time. 

[Jackfraser24]

Are there two undisclosed collector planes in the works right now? 
 

I heard there are rumours that one of them is the La-5F.

 

I am certain that the other one would likely be an axis plane that entered service in 1943, since whenever two planes have been developed back to back one is from the allies and the other from the axis, and both of them entered the war around the same time. I.e, the La-5FN and the Bf-109 G-6 entered service in 1943. Here’s what I think could be in the works.

• Do-217 K-1
• Fw-190 A-4
• Ju-87 D-5
• Me-210 Ca-1

What do you think (caution: opinion fishing in process)?

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

I would love to see a Spit VIII in the game, i.e. the best of the Merlin Spits. I would also love to see a proper P-40, perhaps an F as well as an N.

[[CPT]milopugdog]

13 hours ago, Ghost666 said:

During the cold war I was a security specialist (USAF SP) working in the missile field. Potato chips were not a big thing with the capsule crews, but they did request Moon Pies and Little Debbies all the time. 

Go figure! Nowadays people mostly jump for chicken tenders and tater tots. You couldn't imagine the upset when they changed from a breast to a nugget style... I've gone down to have several destroyed packages of Oreos around. ?

6 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Are there two undisclosed collector planes in the works right now? 
 

I heard there are rumours that one of them is the La-5F.

 

I am certain that the other one would likely be an axis plane that entered service in 1943, since whenever two planes have been developed back to back one is from the allies and the other from the axis, and both of them entered the war around the same time. I.e, the La-5FN and the Bf-109 G-6 entered service in 1943. Here’s what I think could be in the works.

• Do-217 K-1
• Fw-190 A-4
• Ju-87 D-5
• Me-210 Ca-1

What do you think (caution: opinion fishing in process)?

iirc, they mentioned variants of planes we already have. So maybe the 190, 87, or 210. I also feel like they mentioned them being earlier versions of existing planes, but I could be mistaken.

[Jackfraser24]

7 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Are there two undisclosed collector planes in the works right now? 
 

I heard there are rumours that one of them is the La-5F.

 

I am certain that the other one would likely be an axis plane that entered service in 1943, since whenever two planes have been developed back to back one is from the allies and the other from the axis, and both of them entered the war around the same time. I.e, the La-5FN and the Bf-109 G-6 entered service in 1943. Here’s what I think could be in the works.

• Do-217 K-1
• Fw-190 A-4
• Ju-87 D-5
• Me-210 Ca-1

What do you think (caution: opinion fishing in process)?

Oh wait, never mind. It’s the Bf-109 G-6AS. I suggested whatever what it could be, then several hours later they announce what it is. What a coincidence!

[CountZero]

So next one is La-5F with bubble canopy...

[Jackfraser24]

I think it would be worthwhile having these aircraft. I’ll explain why for each:

 

Bf-109 E-4

• Career mode for Moscow and Stalingrad
• Beautiful plane like the E-7, people would love it more than other Bf-109 variants not in the game yet

Bf-109 G-10AS

• Career mode for Bodenplatte or a possible Berlin and Balaton module (if it ever happens)
• If there’s going to be a G-6AS, why not a G-10AS?

Bf-109 G-14AS

• Same for here

Fw-190 A-4

• Produced in great numbers
• Complement the A-5, and Bf-109G-2/4/6
• Career mode for Kuban and other subsequent Eastern Front modules (1943-44)

He-162

• Yay, another jet plane!
• Career mode for possible Berlin module (Vistula-Oder Offensive) though they didn’t see much action but still, another jet plane!
• A challenge to fly, likes to disintegrate in midair

Ju-87 D-5

• For the Stuka fans
• About time for another Stuka
• Career mode for Kuban, and a  possible future Balaton or Berlin module

Ju-188 A

• We need a contemporary (1943-45) Axis bomber for Bodenplatte and Normandy modules
• Be nice to have a plane you could not fly in the original 1946 game without mods, like the C-47 and the Ju-52
• I know it would take a while to make but people will really love it.

Ta-152 H

• Career mode for Bodenplatte and a possible Berlin module
• Formidable fighter
• Fast for a piston plane (<750+ km/h)

[FliegerAD]

On 12/17/2022 at 7:25 AM, Jackfraser24 said:

He-162

• Yay, another jet plane!
• Career mode for possible Berlin module (Vistula-Oder Offensive) though they didn’t see much action but still, another jet plane!
• A challenge to fly, likes to disintegrate in midair

 

I don't think any He 162 was near Berlin, certainly nowhere near the Oder-Vistula-area. They were based in Leck, in the most northern part of Germany.

 

While I would love to fly a He 162, their home base makes it difficult to include, because its opponents were late war western planes - basically a Bodenplatte plane set, with a terrain set that is pretty much the same as Bodenplatte's too.

 

[Jackfraser24]

What about the P-51 Mustang Mk.IV? Nice to have one of them?

[nesher666]

- P-47D30 (with the optional tail fin modification for improved longitudinal stabilty and dive recovery flaps, HVAR capability) 

 

- P-47M (I know, dream-on baby...) 

Edited December 20, 2022 by nesher666

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

What about the P-51 Mustang Mk.IV? Nice to have one of them?

 

It's already in the game.

[FliegerAD]

13 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

What about the P-51 Mustang Mk.IV? Nice to have one of them?

 

As said, that is the P-51D. Maybe they could do the P-51K aka Mk.IVa, but the difference would be ... well, the propeller and the designation. Mostly the designation, if we are being honest.

 

 

9 hours ago, nesher666 said:

- P-47M (I know, dream-on baby...) 

 

I am all for it. It might be the last remaining US late war, high-performance, single-engined fighter over Europe that is actually different to what we have. Or is it not?

 

[Jackfraser24]

Spitfire Mk.XVI - why it should be made

• Useful in Bodenplatte pilot career
• Developers can base it off the IX if they make it
• Comes as having traditional and bubble canopy
• 1,054 units built so it would be worthwhile having it
• Dedicated ground attack aircraft
• Great for ground support missions

Edited December 23, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[Jackfraser24]

Why the Ju-88 S variant should be made

• Useful in a Bodenplatte and Normandy pilot career
• Helps fill the gap for late war German bombers
• No other flight combat sim has made one before
• Fast(ish) bomber

[Jackfraser24]

Why the Bf-109 E-4 should be made (sorry about rehashing but I have more points this time)

• Useful in a Moscow and Stalingrad pilot career
• 561 built, (E-7 had only 438, and that’s already in the game)
• Cool to have an Axis plane that fought in the Battle of Britain, Moscow, and up until the end of Stalingrad
• If both the G-6 and G-6 Late are in the game, and the AS is on they way, why should the E-4 be left out?
• There are still a lot of E-4s left in the world for the developers to study, and no doubt there would be more than enough documents on it
• They’re starting to run out of new German aircraft to model in, so they might as well add in E-4 for Moscow/Stalingrad

Edited December 26, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[LukeFF]

16 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Why the Bf-109 E-4 should be made (sorry about rehashing but I have more points this time)

• Useful in a Moscow and Stalingrad pilot career
• 561 built, (E-7 had only 438, and that’s already in the game)
• Cool to have an Axis plane that fought in the Battle of Britain, Moscow, and up until the end of Stalingrad
• If both the G-6 and G-6 Late are in the game, and the AS is on they way, why should the E-4 be left out?
• There are still a lot of E-4s left in the world for the developers to study, and no doubt there would be more than enough documents on it
• They’re starting to run out of new German aircraft to model in, so they might as well add in E-4 for Moscow/Stalingrad

 

The E-4 is just an E-7 that can't carry a drop tank. Pointless addition.

[David_4555]

Ok here's my list, i know some have already been mentioned (I'm more of an axis guy, so excuse the lack of allied planes):

 

- Bf-109G-10

- Bf-109G-14/AS (probably not different enough to be worth it though)

- Bf-109H

- Bf-109T-2 (would require Norwegian theater though)

- Fw-190A-9

- Bf-110 Nightfighters with working radar etc... (would require heavy bombers to fit though i guess)

- Fw-190D-11/12/13 as modifications for the D-9 (D-12 was the only one not in operational units, so i guess that counts as a prototype)

- Ta-152H 

- He-162A 

- Yak-3 

 

If we include prototypes, then:

- Bf-109K-6/K-14

- Ta-152C

- Do-335 Pfeil 

- Me-262HG

- Me-262C

- Ta-154

- YP-80 

 

Edited December 26, 2022 by David_4555

[Jackfraser24]

7 hours ago, David_4555 said:

- Bf-109G-14/AS (probably not different enough to be worth it though)

If they are making the Bf-109 G-6AS, then why not? That would be good for Bodenplatte or a hypothetical Vistula-Oder offensive module.

[LukeFF]

7 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

If they are making the Bf-109 G-6AS, then why not? That would be good for Bodenplatte or a hypothetical Vistula-Oder offensive module.

 

Jack, c'mon... ?

 

The G-14/AS is just a G-6/AS that is fitted with MW50, and that's an option coming with the G-6/AS. It's explained in the recent development updates.

Edited December 26, 2022 by LukeFF

[David_4555]

I mean, if you want every variant of everything, 1946 exists...

[DRosa]

 

I mean, most of the German air force fought on the eastern front, and we already have the best 109s, it would be good to also have the best Yaks to fight against, in late war battles the difference would be a little more realistic, since they were also produced nearly 5,000 Yak-3s between 1944 and 1945.

 

I say this based on no official announcements about the Battle of Berlin, just the huge push from the western community for a pacific DLC.

[CUJO_1970]

They don't make airplanes without the maps to fly them on, except when they do of course. Like when they first released the FW190A-3.

 

Now the philosophy seems to attach a ball and chain [map and campaign] to any aircraft considered for release.

 

 

 

 

 

[CountZero]

But just for fun, devs should rename 109E-7 to E-4 and sell it as collector airplane for 10$, it would probably be hit

Same when G-6/AS comes, just make its MW50 mod default option and rename it to G14/AS and sell for 10$... 

ppl would never know its same airplanes they have, name is differant thats all that maters LOL

There would even be topic about how E-4 is better climber then E-7, or how it turns better and so on...

Edited December 26, 2022 by CountZero

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

They should.

[CountZero]

You have to learn how to make map in this game, make map with area where Yak-3 saw battle, give it to devs so they add it to game, and then devs will maybe make Yak-3 as collectable and campaign for it...

Insted waiting for devs to add collector Yak-3 when there is no map for it to make SP capaign.

[JG5_Schuck]

18 minutes ago, CountZero said:

But just for fun, devs should rename 109E-7 to E-4 and sell it as collector airplane for 10$, it would probably be hit

Same when G-6/AS comes, just make its MW50 mod default option and rename it to G14/AS and sell for 10$... 

ppl would never know its same airplanes they have, name is differant thats all that maters LOL

There would even be topic about how E-4 is better climber then E-7, or how it turns better and so on...

Or just have an E4 and G14/AS option in the options list for E7 and G6/AS, and maybe a few associated skin options for them.
Then these could be locked/unlocked depending on the timeframe...
Why does everything have to be so difficult!!!

VVS need a DB3 and Il4, and the Luftwaffe an FW189 or similar for recon...

[David_4555]

11 hours ago, JG5_Schuck said:

Or just have an E4 and G14/AS option in the options list for E7 and G6/AS, and maybe a few associated skin options for them.
Then these could be locked/unlocked depending on the timeframe...
Why does everything have to be so difficult!!!

VVS need a DB3 and Il4, and the Luftwaffe an FW189 or similar for recon...

 

How about a Storch 

[CUJO_1970]

But not before we get I-153, which we do have maps for.

 

Yak is really a brilliant airframe - very interesting from a design standpoint.