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Dev Blog #373: Gulf of Finland Map


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17 hours ago, Avimimus said:

The Siege and Liberation module includes that Yak-3, La-7, and Il-2 1944, and Ju-87D-5 - all late war types. While there were late war bombers, they didn't tend to replace existing types (e.g. Tu-2 was always outnumbered by Pe-2) and/or shifted exclusively to night use (e.g. Do-217 and Ju-188). Other than that, we're mainly talking about minor variants, many of which weren't that numerous. So the only thing missing is really the map. Otherwise such a module is being created.

Thats a good piece of information. Thanks. 

17 hours ago, Avimimus said:

I have a list of features I'd like to see improved (e.g. waterline hits with AP rounds for ships, an RNG applied to projectiles passing through branches, improved WWI AI).

 

However, I think, when we all get to try Korea - we'll all suddenly want to see the effort put into improving that generation of the game engine. It'll be such a leap forward, in so many areas, it will make everything else obsolete.

Agreed. Despite what I have said in the past about wanting Great Battles to improve on things such as AI, I think our attention will be turned to Korea and the Pacific and how it can be improved. 

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1PL-Husar-1Esk
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On 10/11/2025 at 11:26 AM, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Such optimisation processes are also responsible for the disappearing buildings that 1PL-Husar-1Esk complains about and the reason I don't expect anything changes here.

Are you suggesting that my computer is responsible for this issue with cites? 

AEthelraedUnraed
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47 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

Are you suggesting that my computer is responsible for this issue with cites? 

I don't see how you read that from my post. Of course not.

 

Optimisation algorithms are responsible. Those have been implemented by 1CGS. Without those algorithms, there would be no issues with disappearing buildings, however you'd need a much better GPU to run the same quality of graphics, or even to run the game at all. As everything in engineering, this is a tradeoff. Either have optimisation algorithms such as batching and viewport culling etc. in place with the risk of having a few loading glitches if the camera changes rapidly, or have no such algorithms and as a result no glitches but also much higher hardware requirements. Since Korea likely has similar tradeoffs I don't expect anything to change there. Personally I think the occasional half second the buildings aren't loaded yet is well worth the lower GPU usage, but of course you're free to have a different opinion.

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Frequent_Flyer
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Will a winter map be included in the release ?

 

Thanks in advance.

Posted
4 hours ago, Frequent_Flyer said:

Will a winter map be included in the release ?

 

Thanks in advance.

I doubt it. Both the 1941 and 1944 scenarios occured largely in the summertime of both years mentioned. 

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5 часов назад, Jackfraser24 сказал:

I doubt it. Both the 1941 and 1944 scenarios occured largely in the summertime of both years mentioned. 

BlackSix answered the question at least regarding Leningrad: 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/18066-обсуждение-выпуска-дневников-№373/#findComment-939259

The career will span from 09.1941 (appearance of first enemy aircraft in the airspace) to 30.04.1942 (the end of the Battle of Lyuban)

 

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1 hour ago, MDzmitry said:

appearance of first enemy aircraft in the airspace

First Luftwaffe unit on the Leningrad map airfield, it's a big difference)

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18 минут назад, BlackSix сказал:

First Luftwaffe unit on the Leningrad map airfield, it's a big difference)

Yep, my bad

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20 hours ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

Are you suggesting that my computer is responsible for this issue with cites? 

Absolutely. Without it you wouldn't be able to render anything 🤣

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9 hours ago, MDzmitry said:

BlackSix answered the question at least regarding Leningrad: 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/18066-обсуждение-выпуска-дневников-№373/#findComment-939259

The career will span from 09.1941 (appearance of first enemy aircraft in the airspace) to 30.04.1942 (the end of the Battle of Lyuban)

 

Thanks MDzmitry for the follow up. However ,I do not read Russian. It appears from your statement that the career will include winter months so, there will be a winter map .

 

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Just to add my "voice" to the choir that suggests the BoX engine still as great legs to go and that the company or external devs continue to add stuff for it. More planes, more maps, more careers.

 

I am quite enthusiastic about it all!

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On 10/13/2025 at 9:15 PM, Frequent_Flyer said:

Will a winter map be included in the release ?

 

Thanks in advance.

Winter map is coming after summer map is released next XMas.

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8 hours ago, LLv44_Kanttori said:

Winter map is coming after summer map is released next XMas.

Good to know. Can you say something about new airplanes, how many are in development and what is done?

21 hours ago, Koziolek said:

Absolutely. Without it you wouldn't be able to render anything 🤣

You are so smart 🤓 

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On 10/13/2025 at 5:38 AM, Jackfraser24 said:

Thats a good piece of information. Thanks. 

 

 

It is a very interesting subject, so I thought I'd share a bit more.

 

After the losses occurred attacking the Dieppe raid in 1942, the Luftwaffe shifts to night bomber operations in their Western Front. In the fall of 1944 there is a rationalisation where a lot of He-177 and Do-217E/Do-217K units begin to be retired completely. The Ju-88/Ju-188 fares better, remaining as night bombers. Daylight attack operations are taken over by single-seater fighter bombers - both Fw-190 units and jet aircraft (Ar-234/Me-262).

 

I gather the situation is a bit different in their Eastern Front, as the area of the front is much larger, and the pace of Soviet advance is so great that it sometimes outstrips air-cover, you get sporadic use of bombers in daylight (including the Ju-87 as late as 1945). Added to the complexity, as the situation deteriorates there are points were they start using anything that can carry a bomb, provided they can find fuel for it. So you get Ju-88C and Ju-88G night fighters used as bombers, training aircraft used as bombers etc.

 

Something similar exists for the Soviets. They put together night attack units using a mixture of whatever types survived the disaster in 1941, and keep these flying as long as they can find spare parts - so you'll get relatively obscure 1930s types showing up in surprising places well into 1944. They also keep the Pe-2 in production and never scale up Tu-2 production sufficiently, so the force remains Pe-2 and Il-2 until the end of the war, with long range strikes provided by Il-4 (and occasionally other types). The Il-4 strategic bombing units generally took off from airfield well behind the front and flew to targets well behind the enemy front - so they'd occasionally be flying over a couple of our maps, but it is unusual for either their airfield or their targets to actually appear on the in-game maps.

 

Suffice it to say - the plane-set is surprisingly complete (even if I'll miss the gorgeous cockpit of the Ju-188 and even if the Il-4 would make an excellent target for the Ju-88C)! As mentioned earlier, the obvious gap is the Ju-87B/R - and it is hard to make a business case for adding it as an AI aircraft.

 

Note: This is all based on reading over several years - I could have misremembered some things - and some sources might be unreliable. Feel free to post your corrections!

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On 10/14/2025 at 5:56 PM, LLv44_Kanttori said:

Winter map is coming after summer map is released next XMas.

Thank you ,sir.

 

Based on the screen shots you folks have developed a gorgeous map.

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On 10/10/2025 at 6:01 PM, BlitzPig_EL said:

Was the cruiser Aurora there at that time, and if so will she be represented?

I believe she was sunk in the River Neva soon after the invasion began and salvaged after the war. Many buildings and monuments were camouflaged or moved before the siege began. Picture of Petershof with extensive damage. The famous gardens were demined and open to the public weeks after the end of the siege. Picture 2: As the Palace is today.

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On 10/15/2025 at 1:18 PM, Avimimus said:

 

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Hey Avi! that was a nice read, thank you!
 

I would love to se a Il-4 tho. It would be a great target for the Ju-88C as you say and I think it could be succesfull as a collector, but who knows! The already planeset and plans from the Finnish team are already great and fill in a lot of void.

Kind regards

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Guys, this is not an aircraft wishlist thread. We already have many of those topics, thank you. 🙂

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Jackfraser24
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31 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

Guys, this is not an aircraft wishlist thread. We already have many of those topics, thank you. 🙂

My apologies, Luke. 

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