Spin recovery (all aircraft)

[Avimimus]

I've become a bit annoyed with not finding a comprehensive spin recover guide (if it exists - let me know and I'll remove this thread).

 

So the plan is - give me your best spin recovering technique, I'll test it and include it below. Provide the complete with control inputs used, feel free to add a description of the experience and include amount of altitude lost before spin recovery if possible.

 

I'll test it and update the thread to include it below:

 

Fokker E.III
Fokker Dr.1
Fokker D.VII
Fokker D.VIII
Siemens-Schuckert D.IV

 

Halberstadt D.II
Albatros D.II
Albatros D.III
Albatros D.Va
Pfalz D.IIIa
Pfalz D.XII

 

Airco D.H.2
Nieuport 11.C1
Nieuport 17.C1
Nieuport 28.C1
Spad VII.C1
Spad XIII
Hanriot HD.1
S.E.5.a

 

Sopwith Pup
Sopwith 1½ Strutter
Sopwith 1½ Strutter B 
Sopwith Triplane
Sopwith Snipe
Sopwith Camel
Sopwith Dolphin

 

Roland C.IIa 
DFW C.V
Halberstadt CL.II
F.E.2b 
R.E.8.
Bristol Fighter
Airco DH.4
Breguet 14.B2

 

Handley Page 0-400
Gotha G.V.

[AndyJWest]

As Col Ninny points out in his video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFR91ZpZ2s) there is a table in the Rise of Flight manual giving spin recovery techniques for the aircraft included there. I think it's mostly still applicable to IL-2 GB, though the flight model characteristics may differ slightly, and it needs checking.

 

 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

ROF manual appendix A, without collectors planes.

Edited October 10 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[Avimimus]

Okay - So I need to actually read the old manual eh?

 

So, what of the Snipe and SSW?

[AndyJWest]

23 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

Okay - So I need to actually read the old manual eh?

 

So, what of the Snipe and SSW?

 

There's a project for you. 😉

[AndyJWest]

I've done a bit of testing on the collector aircraft, at 50% 100% fuel:

 

Sopwith Snipe

The 'standard RoF technique' works for both L & R spins, though recovery is fairly easy, and unless the spin is fully developed, just releasing the stick is generally fine.

 

SSW D.IV

I can't get it to do a fully-developed spin at all, either way. Not upright, anyway. It is actually possible to spin it inverted, though doing that by accident seems unlikely. Recovery involves nothing more than releasing the full down elevator you need to get it to do it in the first place, followed by throttling back to avoid engine overspeed as you tuck around to upright.

 

Some more general thoughts on spins in IL-2 GB

As with most real-world piston GA aircraft (as I noted earlier Jet fighters can behave very differently in a spin, mostly due to mass distribution), the key to exiting any spin in current IL-2 aircraft is to do whatever it takes to stop the yaw, and then de-stall the wing. The 'standard RoF technique' for this involves 'into spin' stick, which isn't something one wants to do unless it is actually necessary (it seems to be, for some of the WWI stuff) since you risk flipping into an opposite-direction spin, rather than recovering.  You need to be at neutral aileron by the time the yaw stops to avoid this.

 

One other factor to bear in mind for the WWI aircraft is that any adjustment of your pitch axis (or elevator trim, for aircraft that have it) is going to affect where 'neutral' stick is. 'Just let go of the stick' recoveries may possibly be affected by this, though unless you've done something extreme it is unlikely to be significant. 

[BlitzPig_EL]

My recovery technique with the old kites is simply to hit refly after impacting the earth. 

 

I can recover the WW2 birds just fine, but the kites, not so much.

[ST_Catchov]

You master the Camel, you are King. Mind you, one has to know the secret handshake and be a proven worthy recipient, before any techniques, spin or otherwise, are handed down. Only a select few are chosen.