TFS - Mid-year update 2025

[Dagwoodyt]

I think it is a mistake to envision a future for CloD using only an enthusiast mindset. Just consider the realities of TFS fishing to find highly skilled contributors who can pass muster with TFS and Fulqrum and are in a financial situation that permits them to donate their free time for "free". How many tens or hundreds of hours effort would be required for these "volunteers" to become proficient in working in the TFS environment? How much "say" would highly skilled "volunteers" expect to have in direction of further efforts once acclimated? If there are other paths to finding "volunteers" than by presenting consistent communication through various fora, what are they? 

[Mysticpuma]

6 hours ago, II./JG27_Rich said:

I wish some kind of server would just get populated again    In my opinion I think the heavy bombers and the 190 just may bring folks back and yes the VR too but flyable heavy bombers is something only we will have. I just hope we soldier on to the 1943/45 air war over Europe. That and North Africa are my favorite arenas  

That would require someone at TFS to actually speak with the community and advise of the current state of play.

[Mysticpuma]

5 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said:

If there are other paths to finding "volunteers" than by presenting consistent communication through various fora, what are they? 

Yep. Where are TFS getting the new volunteers from? They certainly aren't communicating on any forums for 'need new blood' or showing any interest anywhere else to revitalise interest.

Anyone passing by these forums would think TFS aren't active anymore, same on ATAG, apart from the server issues, no news on their own official forums, Discord is dead....how will they generate new members to try and complete the work before the next ice age?

[II./JG27_Rich]

The old folks who are polite  and wait patiently, well some are actually passing away waiting. I understand fully that things take time but letting us know more often how things are going with posts on FB and discord might be nice. Why I like the air war over Europe so much is it's because it is a flip flop of the Battle of Britain for the Blue team. Now we are defending witch I like much more. Even though I'm pretty terrible at it  I can just see it now B-17s P-51-Ds P-47s 109 G-10s G-6s G-14s Fw 190 A-8s Fw 190-Ds. I hope we get there before I kick the bucket.  

Edited November 10 by II./JG27_Rich

[Aapje]

17 hours ago, Mysticpuma said:

to try and complete the work before the next ice age?

 

pedantic mode on

 

We are actually still in an ice age (albeit a warmer period), and the time to the next ice age can easily be 100's of million years. So TFS has time.

Edited November 10 by Aapje

[Mysticpuma]

1 hour ago, Aapje said:

 

pedantic mode on

 

We are actually still in an ice age (albeit a warmer period), and the time to the next ice can easily be 100's of million years. So TFS has time.

Team Fusion Simulations current office.

[clod65]

Went out country and found this little beauty:-

https://www.warmemorialsregister.nsw.gov.au/content/narrandera-tiger-moth-memorial

 

18 pilots died in training and over 3000 trained to fly

Edited November 10 by clod65

[Mysticpuma]

3 hours ago, clod65 said:

Went out country and found this little beauty:-

https://www.warmemorialsregister.nsw.gov.au/content/narrandera-tiger-moth-memorial

 

18 pilots died in training and over 3000 trained to fly

And what has this got to do with the thread topic?

[clod65]

nothing it's a distraction.

just looking at :-https://store.steampowered.com/app/2615600/IL2_Sturmovik_Fortresses_and_FockeWulfs__Dieppe/

 

it is still there and it hasn't been removed, what is the policy for Steam for upcoming DLC? example how long can they display it without updates.  

[Dagwoodyt]

1 hour ago, clod65 said:

nothing it's a distraction.

just looking at :-https://store.steampowered.com/app/2615600/IL2_Sturmovik_Fortresses_and_FockeWulfs__Dieppe/

 

it is still there and it hasn't been removed, what is the policy for Steam for upcoming DLC? example how long can they display it without updates.  

probably about as long as TFS has been promising a VU/VR implementation😂

[clod65]

I assume if it hasn't been removed, then they are still working on it. has anyone contacted steam about the FFD DLC?

[Dagwoodyt]

9 minutes ago, clod65 said:

I assume if it hasn't been removed, then they are still working on it. has anyone contacted steam about the FFD DLC?

You are at liberty to "assume". Why try to contact Steam when the developer won't communicate? In any case you can attempt to communicate with Steam and/or TFS and report back.😊

[clod65]

Yup I thought someone would say that.

 

Ok I have contacted steam and will see what they say.

Edited November 11 by clod65

[ST_Catchov]

Anything yet! 😲

[clod65]

yep Steam responded, because the game wasn't developed by valve it's out of their jurisdiction
they said to contact doversupport@il2sturmovik.com but it bounced.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/wizard/HelpWithGameTechnicalIssue/?appid=15320

 

I'd say TFS is the mob to contact on this, if they haven't been forth coming i'd just say wait...

waiting waiting waiting....

Edited November 11 by clod65

[BENKOE]

Organised irresponsibility - and sadly, neither a unique feature nor virtual reality ...

 

36 minutes ago, clod65 said:

yep Steam responded, because the game wasn't developed by valve it's out of their jurisdiction
they said to contact doversupport@il2sturmovik.com but it bounced.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/wizard/HelpWithGameTechnicalIssue/?appid=15320

 

I'd say TFS is the mob to contact on this, if they haven't been forth coming i'd just say wait...

waiting waiting waiting....

[clod65]

ok i just sent an email to 

info@fulqrumpublishing.com

This is in regards to upcoming DLC:- IL-2 Sturmovik: Fortresses and Focke-Wulfs - Dieppe

Just wanted to know what the latest update on this DLC is? Any news on when it will be released
 

https://www.fulqrumpublishing.com/about#contact

Edited Friday at 08:46 AM by clod65

[Dagwoodyt]

13 hours ago, clod65 said:

nothing it's a distraction.

😉

[marcost]

Fulqrum seem quite big in fantasy gaming 😉

[clod65]

nothing back from fulqrumpublishing, will definitely let you guys know if i do.

[Mysticpuma]

It's a weird situation where a publisher let's a small group of enthusiasts, who then becomes a limited company, have access to the Source Code, in return for financial gain for both TFS and what was 1C but is now Fulqrum, yet they obviously don't care about the project or they would be putting leverage on them to get it finished or at least show that their trust in TFS was justified.

[FTC_Rostic]

55 minutes ago, Mysticpuma said:

It's a weird situation where a publisher let's a small group of enthusiasts, who then becomes a limited company, have access to the Source Code, in return for financial gain for both TFS and what was 1C but is now Fulqrum, yet they obviously don't care about the project or they would be putting leverage on them to get it finished or at least show that their trust in TFS was justified.

 

Nothing weird from my point of view... But unusual  
When deal was done - BLITZ was released. After that Tobruk. So, Fulqrum as publisher got some money and (I guess) spent nothing. Why publisher should care when it pays nothing for development??? Well, publisher might care in case if it was interested in this product. But in that case publisher should support product development financially. So, it is obvious that Fulqrum is do not care about CloD.

Edited Thursday at 05:12 PM by FTC_Rostic

[Mysticpuma]

1 hour ago, FTC_Rostic said:

 

Nothing weird from my point of view... But unusual  
When deal was done - BLITZ was released. After that Tobruk. So, Fulqrum as publisher got some money and (I guess) spent nothing. Why publisher should care when it pays nothing for development??? Well, publisher might care in case if it was interested in this product. But in that case publisher should support product development financially. So, it is obvious that Fulqrum is do not care about CloD.

Businesses like money. Maybe they have just forgot about TFS having the Source Code? It would be interesting to know if Fulqrum have an expectation of TFS to release within a certain time range of their new contract being signed? I assume a new contract, since their old one was with 1C and that's who TFS we're contracted to?

I just wonder if TFS don't meet a release schedule, if Fulqrum could withdraw the Source Code, kill all the work TFS have been doing and offer it out to another team?

 

[FTC_Rostic]

31 minutes ago, Mysticpuma said:

Businesses like money. Maybe they have just forgot about TFS having the Source Code? It would be interesting to know if Fulqrum have an expectation of TFS to release within a certain time range of their new contract being signed? I assume a new contract, since their old one was with 1C and that's who TFS we're contracted to?

I just wonder if TFS don't meet a release schedule, if Fulqrum could withdraw the Source Code, kill all the work TFS have been doing and offer it out to another team?

 

 

 

Do you have insights?? Or all of that is just an imagination?

[Dagwoodyt]

5 hours ago, FTC_Rostic said:

So, it is obvious that Fulqrum is do not care about CloD.

Bingo!

[Dagwoodyt]

3 hours ago, Mysticpuma said:

I just wonder if TFS don't meet a release schedule, if Fulqrum could withdraw the Source Code, kill all the work TFS have been doing and offer it out to another team?

No one is going to touch the CloD source code unless they are paid to do so. Fulqrum could care less whether TF 6.0 ever surfaces. The point is that suggesting that a new project is "coming soon" implies that there is active development happening. That helps sell DWT. It is precisely the same logic used in the Enigma video. There it was stated that VR is completely functional in the original game. Nothing was offered to validate the assertion however and the assertion was made to an audience that presumably would be unfamiliiar with CloD. Monetization of what was originally a modder project seems to distort things and it is necessary to recognize how such distortions might tend to surface.

[FTC_Rostic]

1 hour ago, Dagwoodyt said:

Bingo!

That was obvious since first time TFS mentioned that they are paid only by money from sales of released product. What basically meant development was not supported since the very beginning.

1 hour ago, Dagwoodyt said:

No one is going to touch the CloD source code unless they are paid to do so. ...

Spoiler

IGNORE: ~~That is not true.

In Enigma interview there were mentioned at least two names who touched CloD code. AFAIK all TFS member volunteers~~

EDITED: not relevant. See: 

 

Edited Thursday at 11:42 PM by FTC_Rostic

[Dagwoodyt]

8 minutes ago, FTC_Rostic said:

That is not true.

In Enigma interview there were mentioned at least two names who touched CloD code. AFAIK all TFS member volunteers 

I believe the context was that of Fulqrum offering the source code to another developer. My response was that I don't believe that another development house would want to tackle the CloD source code without being paid to do so. If you disagree that's OK.

[FTC_Rostic]

10 minutes ago, Dagwoodyt said:

....Monetization of what was originally a modder project seems to distort things and it is necessary to recognize how such distortions might tend to surface.

If I remember correctly, recently monetization was so much "skyrocketing" that it is still more like modder project. Overwise why TFS members would have to work as volunteers - unpaid until release???

2 minutes ago, Dagwoodyt said:

I believe the context was that of Fulqrum offering the source code to another developer. 

When was that mentioned???

[BraveSirRobin]

4 hours ago, Mysticpuma said:

I just wonder if TFS don't meet a release schedule, if Fulqrum could withdraw the Source Code, kill all the work TFS have been doing and offer it out to another team?

 

lol.  Who is going to jump on that grenade?

[Dagwoodyt]

5 minutes ago, FTC_Rostic said:

When was that mentioned???

 

4 hours ago, Mysticpuma said:

I just wonder if TFS don't meet a release schedule, if Fulqrum could withdraw the Source Code, kill all the work TFS have been doing and offer it out to another team?

 

 

7 minutes ago, FTC_Rostic said:

If I remember correctly, recently monetization was so much "skyrocketing" that it is still more like modder project. Overwise why TFS members would have to work as volunteers - unpaid until release???

Where have I ever indicated a belief that the TFS development model seems rational in the long term?🤣

[FTC_Rostic]

57 minutes ago, Dagwoodyt said:

No one is going to touch the CloD source code unless they are paid to do so. ...

 

Oh, now I got your point. Thanks! First time I some how missed that it was reply to statement in older post.

[clod65]

Hello,

Thank you for getting in touch with us and for your interest in the IL-2 Sturmovik DLC.

We can confirm that we are planning to release this DLC in 2026. More detailed information, including content and release timing, will be shared closer to launch next year.

Thank you for your patience and support.

 

Please, make sure your follow-up email is on the same thread as your initial message.

Kind regards,

Fulqrum Tech Support

Edited Friday at 08:28 AM by clod65
email was from:- Fulqrum Publishing - Support <help@fulqrumpublishing.com>

[354thFG_Leifr]

Righto. 😆

[Mysticpuma]

1 hour ago, clod65 said:

Hello,

Thank you for getting in touch with us and for your interest in the IL-2 Sturmovik DLC.

We can confirm that we are planning to release this DLC in 2026. More detailed information, including content and release timing, will be shared closer to launch next year.

Thank you for your patience and support.

 

Please, make sure your follow-up email is on the same thread as your initial message.

Kind regards,

Fulqrum Tech Support

 

I guess if you contacted them last year, you'd have seen the same email....they just changed the year

[clod65]

i'm only trying to help

[Avimimus]

8 hours ago, clod65 said:

i'm only trying to help

 

It is an interesting response. It shows that the publisher still supports it and is aiming for a deadline. That is genuine news.

[paul_leonard]

Honestly I think you read too much into it.  But I also think the publisher is ambivalent enough to provide a namby-pamby marketing/comms response that doesn’t commit to anything.  Which is … nice.  Think Notting Hill and the relative stockbroker guy (who became more famous in that Victorian series that currently escapes my mind.. oh yah, because I didn’t watch it… that said “well she did say she loved you… that’s nice.”

 

But we appreciate their ambivalence AND the actual work that team members are doing. Work is being done. When it will surface… 

 

Per Dagwoody’s request, a volunteer TF member that is putting in 40+ hours a week to enhance and take something special, and make it special again.  

I IMDB’d it.  Bernie. Downton Abbey.

Edited Saturday at 02:52 AM by paul_leonard

[Dagwoodyt]

Suppose that neither the VU/VR nor TF 6.0 are implemented in the next several years. Is there any way that the current iteration of 2D Blitz/DWT can be given CPR to the benefit of SP end users, using tools that are already available such as use of scripts? It would in essence again be a modder operation not beholden to NDA's and all the baggage associated with the monetization of CloD.

[clod65]

sure scripts would work.

Edited Saturday at 10:07 AM by clod65