1CGS LukeFF Posted June 20 1CGS Posted June 20 Hey everyone! In today's dev blog, we delve into the cockpit of the Il-10, also known as the "Beast." Read all about it here: https://il2-korea.com/news/dd_36 13 1
CzechTexan Posted June 22 Posted June 22 The views of the IL-10, especially the underside view, is impressive. These new cockpits are on a whole other level! 1
Avimimus Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Quite interesting. I wonder why they returned to a conventional collimator gunsight instead of using the wire sights that were adopted for the late Il-10? I suppose we won't be getting the AG-2, but if anyone knows where the controls for it would have been - I'm kind-of curious. If we did get it... well, it might be a surprise to jet attackers (and I also wonder about air-to-ground use). Anyway - the quality looks fantastic. 1
LuftManu Posted June 23 Posted June 23 Il-10 is for sure an interesting aircraft. With all of the fast hot rods around this time and even jets, one might think it’s just easy prey and that the glory days are over. But tbh underestimating it would be a mistake, the Il-10 still carried that idea of low in the mud. Built to take a beating flying low and mean. Compared to the old Il-2, it had a better engine and was a lot faster and more agile. Not exactly a brick with wings anymore, plus armed with the new 23mm cannons and the 12,7 rear gunner it's still has that. The cockpit seems amazing! Can't wait to fly in the mud and see what it can do in this new era!
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted June 23 Posted June 23 I think it will do alot of mud moving. When its shot down and crashes into it. 1
LuftManu Posted June 23 Posted June 23 1 hour ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said: I think it will do alot of mud moving. When its shot down and crashes into it. If experience helps, I can see a lot of jet pilots trying to get a shot and having a kiss into some mountains after being too fast.
Lord_Cool Posted June 23 Posted June 23 I can see this and the Tu-2 being easy prey for the jets. I can't see how you're going to survive a career in this without getting absolutely humiliated. Will they be assigned to night-time missions to try and avoid this?
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted June 23 Posted June 23 1 hour ago, LuftManu said: If experience helps, I can see a lot of jet pilots trying to get a shot and having a kiss into some mountains after being too fast. That sounds really funny when the stars align for that, but I would hope it has more cards to play than hope the other guy crashes into a mountain.
BlitzPig_EL Posted June 23 Posted June 23 The F4U-4, armed with 4 20mm cannons will make short work of the IL-10. Be sure. 1
LuftManu Posted June 23 Posted June 23 20 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said: The F4U-4, armed with 4 20mm cannons will make short work of the IL-10. Be sure. Props will be the biggest challenge yeah! Also, 4 20mm on that Corsair... I'm salivating! 2
Avimimus Posted June 24 Posted June 24 It was produced until 1949 by the Soviet Union and 1956 under license! There were close to 5000 built in the USSR and another 1200 license produced examples. So, they were planned to be used in a context with jets (e.g. P-80, Meteor, Vampire)... presumably flying at very low altitude, or flying with their own jet cover. One can think of it as the Soviet Skyraider.
=MERCS=JenkemJunkie Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Everybody has a plan until they're punched in the mouth. This is just from wikipedia, but this is pretty much what I expected: "In the late 1940s, 93 Il-10 and UIl-10s were given to North Korea. They were then used in the 57th Assault Aviation Regiment during the early phase of the Korean War. They were initially used with success against the weak anti-aircraft defense of South Korean forces (following the US refusal to supply the south with "heavy weapons"), but then they suffered heavy losses in encounters against the United States Air Force fighters and were bombed on the ground themselves. After several weeks, about 20 remained." And then it looks like they gave up on it, and gave em all away. "It was withdrawn from frontline service in 1956. At the same time, work on new jet-powered dedicated armoured ground attack planes (like the Il-40) was canceled, and the Soviets turned to multipurpose fighter-bomber aviation. The Il-10 and its licensed variant, the Avia B-33, became a basic ground attack plane of the Warsaw Pact countries. From 1949 to 1959, the Polish Air Force used 120 Il-10s (including 24 UIl-10) and 281 B-33s. In Poland, the B-33 was modified to carry 400 L fuel tanks under its wings. From 1950 to 1960, Czechoslovakia used 86 Il-10s, including six UIl-10s, and about 600 B-33s. From 1949 to 1956, the Hungarian Air Force used 159 Il-10s and B-33s. From 1950 to 1960, the Romanian Air Force used 14 Il-10s and 156 B-33s. Bulgaria also used these aircraft."
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