Any news on weather/weather systems in Korea?

[Mysticpuma]

Snow, rain, thunder, floods, standing water, cloud systems?

Just wondering.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Sea state?

[[CPT]Crunch]

Ground blizzards and fog?

[Avimimus]

Honestly, the big improvement I'd want - icing and maybe hailstones? Basically you get the occasional '7.62mm hit' if you fly through the wrong part of a cumulonimbus...

Also trees blowing in the wind and improved waves would be kind-of cool... I always want that.

 

That said, I don't think we can expect everything from this release - they are rebuilding so much... we can't expect them to do everything. I do miss the partially frozen rivers from some of the old Il-2 1946 maps though! Korea has some very harsh winters (especially in the mountains and the north where the fighting stopped).

[Aapje]

We are getting the non-radar variants of the F-86 and the Mig-15, instead of the all weather versions, so they wouldn't fly during the really bad conditions.

[Avimimus]

8 minutes ago, Aapje said:

We are getting the non-radar variants of the F-86 and the Mig-15, instead of the all weather versions, so they wouldn't fly during the really bad conditions.

 

They wouldn't.

 

I would.

 

That is the difference.

[Mysticpuma]

4 hours ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

Ground blizzards and fog?

Even CloD can do fog...so I have hopes for Korea.

Even something as basic as a flat cloud placed at 0 feet would be a start! 🤔

Edited May 9 by Mysticpuma

[Avimimus]

On 5/9/2025 at 11:09 PM, Mysticpuma said:

Even CloD can do fog...so I have hopes for Korea.

Even something as basic as a flat cloud placed at 0 feet would be a start! 🤔

 

There is a morning mist setting in Il-2 Great Battles. I'm sure it could be improved (there are many types of fog for instance, things can always be improved - but it is a feature that already exists).

[JFM]

Weather-related, but hopefully in winter their deciduous trees won't be full of brown leaves with a dusting of white "snow," like in ROF and IL2GB . 🙄 You'd think people in Russia would know what trees look like in winter. 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

On 5/9/2025 at 1:58 PM, Mysticpuma said:

Snow, rain, thunder, floods, standing water, cloud systems?

Just wondering.

My guess:

Snow, rain, clouds: yes.

Fog: possibly.

Standing water/mud: unlikely.

Thunder: unlikely.

Floods: no.

 

Based on how difficult these would be to implement and how often they occur during flying conditions in Korea.

 

12 minutes ago, JFM said:

Weather-related, but hopefully in winter their deciduous trees won't be full of brown leaves with a dusting of white "snow," like in ROF and IL2GB . 🙄 You'd think people in Russia would know what trees look like in winter. 

Generally you only see white trees if it's snowed very recently. Otherwise, the wind will blow the snow off the leaves within a day or two. At least here in the Netherlands (Rheinland map), I see more brown than white trees after it's snowed.

 

But it would be nice to at least have the option of course 

[MajorMagee]

At the risk of telling "War Stories" one of my clearest recollections was having a Huey and a couple of Cobras come pick me up for an armed recon one beautiful frosty morning after an overnight snowfall. We were encamped in a pine forest with a clearing nearby. As we lifted off I realized that their ingress and our egress was blowing off a clear path to our unit like a giant arrow pointing out "Here We Are!" When we came back I had them fly around in a bunch of circles and spirals to dust all the trees off to at least partially restore our cover until we could move out.

[JFM]

20 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

 

 

 

Generally you only see white trees if it's snowed very recently. Otherwise, the wind will blow the snow off the leaves within a day or two. At least here in the Netherlands (Rheinland map), I see more brown than white trees after it's snowed.

 

But it would be nice to at least have the option of course 

 

Deciduous trees don't have leaves in winter, they fall off in autumn. 

[[CPT]Crunch]

Far as flooding didn't they mention destructible dams as targets in the early interviews?  Even the old DID sim series had that feature.

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

My favorite part of me will flood with blood if we get that.

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

Far as flooding didn't they mention destructible dams as targets in the early interviews?  Even the old DID sim series had that feature.

 

Yes, they are planned. 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

6 hours ago, JFM said:

Deciduous trees don't have leaves in winter, they fall off in autumn. 

...which doesn't detract from the fact that they are brown when seen from whatever side, including above

 

EDIT: just for clarity, as I said above I'm not against having white trees as an option. If the snowfall was recent, trees are definitely whitish. But at least where I'm from, they turn brown again in very little time. Making remarks about how "people in Russia would know what trees look like in winter" implies that trees in a snowy landscape are always white, which is demonstrably false.

 

2 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, they are planned. 

You mean flooding is planned? From the interviews I gathered that they'd have dams with some nice effects when destructed, but programming wise that's a completely different league from rising water levels that flood certain areas based on the terrain topology.

Edited May 12 by AEthelraedUnraed

[LukeFF]

Destructible dams are planned right now. Floods I am not sure about. 

[JFM]

On 5/12/2025 at 3:25 PM, AEthelraedUnraed said:

...which doesn't detract from the fact that they are brown when seen from whatever side, including above

 

EDIT: just for clarity, as I said above I'm not against having white trees as an option. If the snowfall was recent, trees are definitely whitish. But at least where I'm from, they turn brown again in very little time. Making remarks about how "people in Russia would know what trees look like in winter" implies that trees in a snowy landscape are always white, which is demonstrably false.

 

White or brown trees when viewed from altitude was never my point. Being fully leafed in winter IS. Having brown leaves with a dusting of snow is geologically incorrect, no matter how you attempt to spin it. Even in the picture you posted I can see clearly the leaves are gone. That's the point. And there has not been a hard "yes, we will NOT have brown leaves on the trees with a dusting of white on them in full winter, because earth doesn't work that way" from LukeFF, which tells me the Korea sim is going to have them. Glad to be wrong but also hope that when I'm not, someone has a mod for this as was made for ROF. 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

14 minutes ago, JFM said:

White or brown trees when viewed from altitude was never my point. Being fully leafed in winter IS. Having brown leaves with a dusting of snow is geologically incorrect, no matter how you attempt to spin it. Even in the picture you posted I can see clearly the leaves are gone. That's the point. And there has not been a hard "yes, we will NOT have brown leaves on the trees with a dusting of white on them in full winter, because earth doesn't work that way" from LukeFF, which tells me the Korea sim is going to have them. Glad to be wrong but also hope that when I'm not, someone has a mod for this as was made for ROF. 

First of all, the absence of a confirmation about some game aspect does not equal a confirmation of absence. Pretending it does is unfair.

 

Secondly, where did you get the idea that the BoX trees are fully leaved in winter? Is this fully leaved?

The following is extracted from the trees' texture file. Is this fully leaved?

 

On another note, one feature I'd really like is the ability to have different weather on different parts of the map; e.g. snow in the mountains in the north, clear skies and no snow cover around Seoul.

[Avimimus]

On 7/6/2025 at 7:19 AM, JFM said:

White or brown trees when viewed from altitude was never my point. Being fully leafed in winter IS. Having brown leaves with a dusting of snow is geologically incorrect, no matter how you attempt to spin it. Even in the picture you posted I can see clearly the leaves are gone. That's the point. And there has not been a hard "yes, we will NOT have brown leaves on the trees with a dusting of white on them in full winter, because earth doesn't work that way" from LukeFF, which tells me the Korea sim is going to have them. Glad to be wrong but also hope that when I'm not, someone has a mod for this as was made for ROF. 

 

This isn't entirely accurate. The picture posted shows a number of types of 'evergreen' trees which keep their leaves year-round (e.g. pines, some cypress or junipers - hard to tell at that resolution).

 

Furthermore, there are trees which retain brown leaves throughout winter. For example, a number of types of oaks in Canada are like this. Here is a photo I took during a spring ice storm and you can clearly see a couple of leaves from the previous year alongside the cones:

 

 

 

Another example can be seen above - there are shadows of many leaves visible in mid-winter (note: I'm not searching for these, they happen to be part of a half dozen photos I was already processing yesterday).

[JFM]

Here are screenshots I found in an old folder (dated 20 Nov 2013) that shows the deciduous winter trees in IL2 GB when it was first released. I.e., leafless snow-covered branches. You can post pictures of a Canadian tree with some leaves on it in winter (while ignoring the obvious, that the overwhelming majority of deciduous trees in Canada [and elsewhere] in winter have bare branches) til the cows come home, but IL2 used to have what I am talking about. They had them right; here's the proof. Obviously, since then they've moved on to the fake "snow on the brown leaves still on the trees" winter trees. If you can find such correct deciduous trees in winter as in the screenshots below in the modern version(s) of the sim, please direct me to them. Meanwhile, I concede/agree that Luke FF et al not commenting on the pending winter trees in the Korea sim isn't confirmation they won't also be incorrect--but for the record I think that's the case.

The winter trees really aren't a huge deal but after the Korea sim is released and we see, I'll be back here to comment either way.   🙂

 

[FeuerFliegen]

On 5/9/2025 at 6:09 PM, Avimimus said:

 

They wouldn't.

 

I would.

 

That is the difference.

 

 

Me too.

 

I want the ability to have a hurricane, tornado, or at least a somewhat violent thunderstorm that no sane pilot in real life would fly through.