mosquito vs stuka

[alphagamer1981]

So I'm doing some instant action duel missions to get my dogfight practice up and i decided to fly a mosquito and go against a stuka. Now is the mosquito firing bbs or is the stuka made from kryptonite? I'm literally putting nearly 3000 rounds into the damn thing and it keeps going. Thank god i had unlimited ammo on for practice because this thing just wont give up... well it does but not within 5 minutes of hounding it with rounds

[ShamrockOneFive]

Are you firing both the .303s and the 20mms? It should melt in a 2 second burst.

[AndyJWest]

Yup. I've just tried it. No issues.

 

[alphagamer1981]

Im going to record it and upload it

[BlitzPig_EL]

Sounds like you have a trigger key mapping issue and only the .303 machine guns are firing.

[alphagamer1981]

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Sounds like you have a trigger key mapping issue and only the .303 machine guns are firing.

nope, everything is firing fine. As i said, im going to get a recording of it now

[alphagamer1981]

 

[LukeFF]

You're only firing .303s. 🙂

[alphagamer1981]

i have my joystick preset set to "fire all guns" in the key mapping, is this something to do with weapon group 1, 2, 3 etc?

 

Interesting, in the campaign it clearly shows all guns firing, but in the quick missions its not, is that also to do with selecting the custom gun attachments?

Edited April 26 by alphagamer1981

[AtomicP]

1 hour ago, alphagamer1981 said:

i have my joystick preset set to "fire all guns" in the key mapping, is this something to do with weapon group 1, 2, 3 etc?

 

Interesting, in the campaign it clearly shows all guns firing, but in the quick missions its not, is that also to do with selecting the custom gun attachments?

In the video you have the Molins gun selected, which although a giant calibre, is not easy to dogfight with; it was used to shoot at shipping and other armoured but slow moving targets. It necessarily has a slow rate of fire compared to the usual Hispano 20 mm cannons that complement the Browning .303 machine guns. With that typical armament, you can destroy more or less anything in the sky without much trouble.

[BlitzPig_EL]

Switch to the 4 20mm Hispanos, set your convergence to 300 meters, and shoot from closer.  You are spraying .303 all over the sky.

[Elem]

18 hours ago, LukeFF said:

You're only firing .303s. 🙂

And the Molins gun!!

[jollyjack]

so what's the correct payload to set in the ME?

Edited April 27 by jollyjack

[Avimimus]

The 57mm Molins gun fires its armour piercing anti-shipping rounds on a slightly different trajectory... so if you are hitting with .303 you likely won't be hitting with the 57mm.

If you deselect the Molins / Tse-tse field mod in the mission setup you'll get your 20mm cannons back.

[ShamrockOneFive]

On 4/26/2025 at 12:18 PM, alphagamer1981 said:

i have my joystick preset set to "fire all guns" in the key mapping, is this something to do with weapon group 1, 2, 3 etc?

 

Interesting, in the campaign it clearly shows all guns firing, but in the quick missions its not, is that also to do with selecting the custom gun attachments?

So you are firing all guns except that you've got the 57mm Mollins cannon fitted. This is basically an anti-tank gun crammed into the belly of the Mosquito. It replaces the 20mm cannons and its not ideal for firing at aircraft targets as it arcs downward very quickly. You missed every round and were only hitting with .303s at 400 meters range... that's why there was limited damage.

[R33GZ]

3 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

its not ideal

😂

[BaglanBoy]

Select option two at loadout [303 + 20mm]    one burst from the combination of both and the Stuka goes down !

[BaglanBoy]

I can understand the frustration of the original post, although I shot the Stuka down with 303's and 20mm's, I did try with just the Molins 6 pounder. I must have hit the JU87 about 3 or 4 times with the Molins HE rounds which resulted in just a few puffs of smoke and it still flew on ?

[Calos_01]

22 hours ago, BaglanBoy said:

I must have hit the JU87 about 3 or 4 times with the Molins HE rounds which resulted in just a few puffs of smoke and it still flew on ?

That was because there are no HE Molins rounds, just solid shots. IRL it was intended to penetrate the submarines hulls. In game you can easily take out a tiger or a locomotive with it. 

Edited April 30 by Calos_01

[Avimimus]

On 4/29/2025 at 2:15 PM, BaglanBoy said:

I can understand the frustration of the original post, although I shot the Stuka down with 303's and 20mm's, I did try with just the Molins 6 pounder. I must have hit the JU87 about 3 or 4 times with the Molins HE rounds which resulted in just a few puffs of smoke and it still flew on ?

 

As Carlos_01 says - no HE rounds. So, you were just punching 2 inch sized holes in the aircraft. In one side and out the other.

 

This doesn't mean they can't be effective. For instance, the high velocity Sh-37 of the LaGG-3 with AP can fire all he way through a bomber from the rear and kill the pilot.

 

An HE round wouldn't kill the pilot with one shot. However, AP rounds which aren't fired at the pilot (or a few other critical areas) will do much less damage than HE rounds would. HE is almost always much more effective unless you know the perfect spot to aim (and are able to aim well enough to hit it).

[Ghost666]

1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

and are able to aim well enough to hit it

That's the part that always gets me!  

[FeuerFliegen]

Man... I tried this same thing just for fun, and that 57mm can NOT be realistic!

 

I put 3 carefully aimed rounds, from very close, straight into the tail, which went all the way through the fuselage, cabin, engine, and I saw the tracer still burning when it came out the front.  It had an oil leak, and the engine finally stopped about 3 minutes later...  there's NO WAY that would happen in real life; I don't care if it's AP vs HE- the amount of kinetic energy from that massive round would create so much violent forces in anything it hits, and definitely wouldn't just do the same as if you slowly cut out a 2 inch hole in the place where it hits.

Another time I shot a round straight into the cockpit, killing the pilot, and the rest of the plane was flawless except for a few paint scratches on the side of the fuselage where the cockpit is.  None of the glass was broken either!

[FeuerFliegen]

wow... a single round right into the side of a moving locomotive doesn't destroy it either.  

It did slowly come to a stop about 45 seconds later, but still... doesn't seem believable

[BlitzPig_EL]

A 57mm+ hole in the boiler of a steam locomotive would cause an immediate, and catastrophic loss of steam pressure which would destroy the locomotive quite explosively.

 

[AndyJWest]

Lack of giant kaboom when locos are hit by large-calibre rounds is a more general issue though. And if it was modelled correctly, complete with giant-kaboom-sized shrapnel, sim train-strafers would probably have to rethink their tactics. No Mosquito (or even P-47) is going to fly well with half a metric ton of mangled steel embedded in its wing.

 

 

[LukeFF]

15 hours ago, FeuerFliegen said:

Man... I tried this same thing just for fun, and that 57mm can NOT be realistic!

 

I put 3 carefully aimed rounds, from very close, straight into the tail, which went all the way through the fuselage, cabin, engine, and I saw the tracer still burning when it came out the front.  It had an oil leak, and the engine finally stopped about 3 minutes later...  there's NO WAY that would happen in real life; I don't care if it's AP vs HE- the amount of kinetic energy from that massive round would create so much violent forces in anything it hits, and definitely wouldn't just do the same as if you slowly cut out a 2 inch hole in the place where it hits.

Another time I shot a round straight into the cockpit, killing the pilot, and the rest of the plane was flawless except for a few paint scratches on the side of the fuselage where the cockpit is.  None of the glass was broken either!

 

Post a track file in the Tech Issues forum if you have it. 🙂