Pilot head zoom in & out unrealistic, should not be in the realism setting expert

[Bussard_x]

This seems to be very unrealistic and should not be possible in the realism level expert. You can zoom in very close to the revi, this should not be possible when the pilot is strapped in his seat. So it's basically cheating. Furthermore I tested on the ground and zooming in on a tree that is about 200 meters away made it 10 times bigger. No way human eye can do this. So my plea is zoom in & out should not be possible on realism level expert setting. Or should be limited to bend pilot head forward a little.  

Edited August 10, 2014 by Benz

[Sakkay]

This seems to be very unrealistic and should not be possible in the realism level expert. You can zoom in very close to the revi, this should not be possible when the pilot is strapped in his seat. So it's basically cheating. Furthermore I tested on the ground and zooming in on a tree that is about 200 meters away made the 20 times bigger. no way human eye can to this. So my plea is zoom in & out should not be possible on realism level. expert setting. Or should be limited to bend pilot head forward a little. 

100 meters to know a man.(in real life) The game does not even zoomed out to see him.

The eye is much better than the resolution of your monitor That's it. Sorry my Englis.

[CreepiJim]

Try this thread, it has a lengthy discussion about the "zoom" and why it is necessary.

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/3544-zoom-vs-realism/

[Bussard_x]

Try this thread, it has a lengthy discussion about the "zoom" and why it is necessary.

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/3544-zoom-vs-realism/

 

I fully agree with Rextor, I followed his example with pilot head forward and backward assigning to my joystick.

Trees that become 10x bigger by using zoom is not realistic imho.

[Bussard_x]

I fully agree with Rextor, I followed his example with pilot head forward and backward assigning to my joystick.

Trees that become 10x bigger by using zoom is not realistic imho.

 

Another great advantage with using pilot head backward is that the lower instrument panel becomes visible in the Fw190

[CreepiJim]

That is a typical issue with games. You need zoom to simulate the "resolution" of the human eye on the other hand you have to model in a specific scale. When you zoom out everything is getting smaller. However, there is no solution in a game to keep the same level of detail and size of objects like in real life where every object stays the same and is "scanned" by the eyes for maximum details if you concentrate on a distant object.

[Bussard_x]

That is a typical issue with games. You need zoom to simulate the "resolution" of the human eye on the other hand you have to model in a specific scale. When you zoom out everything is getting smaller. However, there is no solution in a game to keep the same level of detail and size of objects like in real life where every object stays the same and is "scanned" by the eyes for maximum details if you concentrate on a distant object.

 

Move pilot head back and forward does not change size of object. Zoom in and out enlarges objects 10x bigger, so easier to identlfy ground objects, not realistic. Zoom in out is for camera view not for pilot view.   

[SharpeXB]

If this "zoom" feature doesn't seem realistic to you, try this. Sit in your car with a cardboard cut-out of your monitor size. Hold it out in front of you about the distance to your screen. Ask yourself if that seems like a realistic field of view. Zoom isn't magnifying things, it's giving you a better field of view. Ask yourself if a real Fw 190 cockpit is as small as the one you see on a 24" monitor.

[Gambit21]

It is magnifying, it's just not telescoping - something I wasn't getting at first when I started that other thread.

[Matt]

Zoom in and out enlarges objects 10x bigger, so easier to identlfy ground objects, not realistic.

 

When you're sitting at your desk in front of your monitor, look left and then look right. If you don't see a WW2 plane canopy, then it's not realistic.

 

If you fully zoom in in BoS, you get 30 degress field of view, which should be pretty close to the accurate FoV depending on the distance between your eyes and your monitor and the size of your monitor and will give you a pretty realistic size of ground objects (as opposed to the fully zoomed out view, which is 150 degrees in BoS). So if you want to fly around with a realistic FoV (despite the that fact that you're just staring at a small monitor), stick to almost fully zoomed in all the time.

Edited August 10, 2014 by Matt

[Bussard_x]

If this "zoom" feature doesn't seem realistic to you, try this. Sit in your car with a cardboard cut-out of your monitor size. Hold it out in front of you about the distance to your screen. Ask yourself if that seems like a realistic field of view. Zoom isn't magnifying things, it's giving you a better field of view. Ask yourself if a real Fw 190 cockpit is as small as the one you see on a 24" monitor.

 

I am sitting close to my 27" monitor, that helps. 

[FuriousMeow]

It's actually the other way - "fully zoomed out" isn't realistic as nothing is 1:1.

 

"fully zoomed in" is about 1:1, depending on the size of the monitor.

 

As Gambit said, it isn't telescopic - you aren't seeing something you shouldn't see, it's magnifying - you are seeing things as they should be relative to real life sizes when "zooming" in.

[SharpeXB]

I am sitting close to my 27" monitor, that helps.

 

Do you think a real cockpit is the size of what you're seeing on the screen when zoomed out? Edited August 10, 2014 by Sharpe

[skouras]

if you don't like zoom in zoom out just don't use it!!!

how simple is that?

[Felix58]

if you don't like zoom in zoom out just don't use it!!!

how simple is that?

Yep, that is it in a nutshell!

Considering all the factors that cannot be factored into a PC game (g loading, etc) v real life, some in-game factors are needed to compensate to make a good gaming experience.

For instance, in car racing games the tyres make more noise than in real life to compensate for the natural limitations of a screen based game.  

[SeriousFox]

Zoom is not needed if I had a imax sized screen..  

[skouras]

Zoom is not needed if I had a imax sized screen..