Sturmovik !!!!

[beebad]

I use to play a game under the same title maybe 10 years ago or longer.

Is this the same game?

Edited December 3, 2024 by beebad

[jollyjack]

Nope me thinks; you might remember IL2 Sturmovik-1946, by Oleg Maddox.

History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IL-2_Sturmovik_(series)

 

[Skycat1969]

Battle of Stalingrad was released 11 years ago and it kicked off the current Great Battles series.

[Avimimus]

6 hours ago, jollyjack said:

Nope me thinks; you might remember IL2 Sturmovik-1946, by Oleg Maddox.

History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IL-2_Sturmovik_(series)

 

Well this is the sequel to Il-2 1946... albeit on a completely different and more modern game engine.

[CzechTexan]

It's never too late to find a new treasure.

[Vendigo]

10 hours ago, beebad said:

I use to play a game under the same title maybe 10 years ago or longer.

Is this the same game?

 

It's funny because my first thought was - you were referring to the old IL-2: Forgotten Battles but indeed - most likely you played IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad (so it is the same game you are talking about). How quickly time flies! 

[Aapje]

It can be any of the IL-2 Sturmovik games (1946, Cliffs of Dover or Great Battles), due to the vague timeline. He says that he played the game 10 years ago or longer, but that doesn't even mean that the game he played was necessarily released at that time. He could have been playing an older game.

[BOO]

1 hour ago, Aapje said:

It can be any of the IL-2 Sturmovik games (1946, Cliffs of Dover or Great Battles), due to the vague timeline. He says that he played the game 10 years ago or longer, but that doesn't even mean that the game he played was necessarily released at that time. He could have been playing an older game.

 

Given everything thats happened to all the titles in the past ten years, for better or worse,  perhaps the best answer is "no". 

[ITAF_Rani]

Same title and history contest...but different sim engine....and now you can fly in VR also.

This last figure make this sim stunning and the best WW2 simulator ever...

Edited December 4, 2024 by ITAF_Rani

[beebad]

Man i have to root around for that cd and see if i can load it up on my gaming computer. That was an awsome game!

Well it wouldn't run...Incompatible. I saw a date on one of the files : 2001

Edited December 6, 2024 by beebad

[beebad]

I want to buy this game. 

Does this game have to be played on the steam platform or can I just install it as a stand alone?

Which one do I buy?

[Riderocket]

3 hours ago, beebad said:

I want to buy this game. 

Does this game have to be played on the steam platform or can I just install it as a stand alone?

Which one do I buy?

you can purchase any of the titles standalone from the store

https://il2sturmovik.com/store

[Aapje]

13 hours ago, beebad said:

Man i have to root around for that cd and see if i can load it up on my gaming computer. That was an awsome game!

Well it wouldn't run...Incompatible. I saw a date on one of the files : 2001

 

That is the original game, which later got the '1946' DLC. Since then on the game was sold with the DLC bundled as IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946. So that's what people normally call it nowadays.

[Aapje]

10 hours ago, beebad said:

I want to buy this game. 

Does this game have to be played on the steam platform or can I just install it as a stand alone?

Which one do I buy?

 

If you want to buy that original game, then you can get it here on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/15320/IL2_Sturmovik_1946/

 

However, it is rather obsolete and is apparently hard to run on modern Windows. I would suggest getting the current iteration of the game series instead, which is the Great Battles series.

 

Riderocket posted a picture and link of the shop (although you can also get it on Steam). All the games starting with 'Battle of' are part of the WW 2 Great Battles series. You can buy any of those games, as they share a game engine. Right now there is no sale, but there should be one on the 24th with huge discounts.

 

Basically, each 'Battle of' game gives you a different map and a collection of planes. People have different opinions on which is best, but if you like the game, then you probably want to get most or modules (eventually) anyway.

[beebad]

13 hours ago, Riderocket said:

you can purchase any of the titles standalone from the store

https://il2sturmovik.com/store

Thank you…..

 

The first two $89 and $59 titles. Do I need either of these to play the other titles of lesser costs? 
 

Also, somewhere I read that if I purchased this game from somewhere, the money goes to the developers instead of STEAM.

 

Can you point out any advantages or disadvantages of how I play it, platforms or installs?

 

I have a ibuypower gaming box that I only play world of warships on. LOL

 

TIA

 

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by beebad

[Skycat1969]

1. Valve gets a cut from the Steam version.

2. The Steam version's content is the same as the version sold through the website; however there are some compatibility quirks between the two for DLC management.

3. If you prefer  to launch your game from Steam, you only need to buy Battle of Stalingrad from Steam. All the other modules, Collector Planes, and campaigns on Steam are considered supporting DLC to the Steam version of Battle of Stalingrad.

4. If you buy Stalingrad from the web store, you cannot launch it through Steam or buy DLC for it from Steam.

5. If you own the Steam version of Stalingrad, you can link your Steam account to the web store and buy "DLC" from either source. The DLC will be unlocked within Stalingrad.

6. You do not need Stalingrad if you do not intend to use Steam. You can buy any of the WWII Battle titles, or a Flying Circus title, or Tank Crew, and build your collection from there.

 

I recommend you wait for a sale when most of the content is 50%-80% off regular price. A winter sale or Christmas sale is probably around the corner.

[Aapje]

@beebad

 

If you buy from the store of the publisher, then you can buy any title and it will work.

 

If you buy from Steam, then you have to buy Battle of Stalingrad first, and all other modules can be bought as DLCs. This is essentially due to the way that Steam is set up. Buying from Steam means that they take a 30% cut, while if you buy from the official store, the maker gets it all. The upside of getting it from Steam is that you download from Steam, who have better download servers.

 

One thing that people do is to buy Battle of Stalingrad from Steam and then buy the rest of the titles from the store of the publisher. This works and then you can download everything through Steam, but almost all of your money goes to the publisher.

 

BTW, here is an overview of what planes exist in the game and what is in which title:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dHJHTkJjiULTM9JjsQftWBLfEGCY_u_yXls3XV0APNg/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Edited December 6, 2024 by Aapje

[Skycat1969]

Steam is a little more convenient for US transactions because you don't get an international fee tacked on to your credit card bill.

 

Also, as someone who started on Steam and then bought almost everything else at the webstore, I really dislike that I have missing content when I launch my web store version. Unfortunately, if your accounts are linked you can only buy an item once. I'd happily buy Stalingrad again from the web store if I could, to complete the Eastern Front trilogy within the web store launcher. I also have several Collector Planes and other content that I can only play through Steam. (I use the web store launcher version to test mods; and also as a backup if the Steam servers are down.)

[Panzerlang]

7 hours ago, Skycat1969 said:

Steam is a little more convenient for US transactions because you don't get an international fee tacked on to your credit card bill.

 

Also, as someone who started on Steam and then bought almost everything else at the webstore, I really dislike that I have missing content when I launch my web store version. Unfortunately, if your accounts are linked you can only buy an item once. I'd happily buy Stalingrad again from the web store if I could, to complete the Eastern Front trilogy within the web store launcher. I also have several Collector Planes and other content that I can only play through Steam. (I use the web store launcher version to test mods; and also as a backup if the Steam servers are down.)

You also can't buy a module again directly from the webstore. I bought BoS before this forum existed (or before they implemented the bars) and tried to buy it again so I'd get the bar (yes, I'm lame like that, lol), computer said "NO!" 😭

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Panzerlang

[beebad]

What is DLC?

 To steam or not to Steam????

Which is better game play or does it matter in the long run????

Edited December 20, 2024 by beebad

[Jaegermeister]

10 minutes ago, beebad said:

What is DLC?

 To steam or not to Steam????

Which is better game play or does it matter in the long run????

 

Down Loaded/Loadable Content = DLC

I have never used Steam to buy content, I would say skip it.

Game play is the same for both, why use a middle man unless you already do? Steam adds extra complication with no benefit I can see.

 

This is just my opinion, BTW

[beebad]

OK. 

I installed game.

where do I find the instruction manual for controls?

I have a joy stick installed but it has limited functionality.

throttle unresponsive.

I really need to find the game controls ketboard settings and shortcuts or keyboard map.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

4 hours ago, beebad said:

where do I find the instruction manual for controls?

[...]

I really need to find the game controls ketboard settings and shortcuts or keyboard map.

You'll find the control settings either in the main menu -> Settings -> Key Mapping; or if you're already flying by pressing Escape -> Settings -> Key Mapping. There are options to search for controls by either name or assignment.

 

If you're rather searching for what everything does, have a look at the official manual:

 

7 hours ago, beebad said:

What is DLC?

To expand upon the literal translation that Jaegermeister provided, DLC means extra content besides the base game, whatever that content entails. I.e. the base game is IL2: Great Battles (which is included with every main module like Stalingrad, Normandy etc.); extra planes or maps you buy are DLC.

 

7 hours ago, beebad said:

To steam or not to Steam????

Which is better game play or does it matter in the long run????

Steam is a game store as well as a game library management software. I personally like it, since I have tons of games that I can very easily boot, search, install, uninstall etc., with just a couple of mouse clicks. Also, their download servers are quite a bit faster than 1CGS's own, so installing and/or updating IL2 should be quicker. Finally, their payment system is pretty good; in my case I can pay using the Dutch e-payment system, which I can do with my phone with just a few clicks, rather than go through multiple steps on some Russian payment site where I have to pay by credit card, which I don't have since the Netherlands are almost entirely debit-card based....

 

The downside of Steam is that it demands a share of the game's sale price, so if you want to support the Devs, they get the most money out of it if you buy from IL2's own store. Furthermore, content you buy from Steam is only visible if you also start the game from Steam.

 

In short, I disagree with Jaegermeister's opinion that Steam offers no benefits. However, I do think that its greatest benefit only applies if you play many different games, which it doesn't seem you do, otherwise you'd have known Steam. So I concur with Jaegermeister when he says that in your case, I'd buy from IL2's own store.