Meta Quest experience

[Sandman3838]

Good Day

I have decided to jump into VR and from what I have been reading the Quest would be a good way to go.

  

Any input on which of these three will do the job well would be most appreciated.

Meta Quest 3S 128GB 
Meta Quest 3 128GB 
Meta Quest 3 512GB

 

It looks like a Video Pass though, for a keyboard is workable through some third party apps that are available.  

Hey if you can think of another VR I should possibly check out, please let me know.  I'm looking to keep the cost under $8oo

Later everyone 
 

Edited November 29, 2024 by Sandman3838

[Panzerlang]

Get Your Game On says to absolutely avoid the 3S for simming (he doesn't say why but I trust his expertise). He very highly recommends the regular one however (Quest 3).

Absolutely avoid anything by Pimax, that is NOT a rabbit-hole you want to go anywhere near.

Edited November 29, 2024 by Panzerlang

[BOO]

6 hours ago, Panzerlang said:

Absolutely avoid anything by Pimax, that is NOT a rabbit-hole you want to go anywhere near.

 

Id say its more a "buyer beware". 

 

The Q3 (either 128 or 512 version) are the ones from your list to consider. But consider also the likely need for a different face interface (the Q3s is awful), a decent halo or elete strap and a link style cable  (dont get the over priced meta ones) which will add to the cost . If you are thinking of using it wireless and using virtual desktop for that, also factor in a dedicated router (ideally Wifi6e) to act as an access point. Ive recently bought all of this for my lads christmas present and its topped out at over £700. The need for a Meta account may also be off putting for some. 

 

If you went the Primax Crystal LIght route then Primax Prime lowers the initial up front cost to Quest levels but there is a 24 month payment of $11.99 to consider. Passthrough is nowhere near as good but game image is better and you wont need a strap or router. You WILL need decent hardware though. You cant "midrange" it. QC from prmax has not been good however the comnpany does seem to be at least trying to address this. There are plenty of happy Primax customers as well as plenty who are not so dont just take one you tubers (justified) complaints as the whole picture. 

[Aapje]

9 hours ago, Sandman3838 said:

Any input on which of these three will do the job well would be most appreciated.

Meta Quest 3S 128GB 
Meta Quest 3 128GB 
Meta Quest 3 512GB

 

Do not get the 3S. It has got low quality lenses, which means that the image quality is much worse. It's a headset that is really only for standalone use.

 

The 128 GB version of the Quest 3 has been discontinued, but it is perfectly fine as a 2nd hand buy. In general, you may be able to find great deals on Quest headsets on the 2nd hand market, because a lot of people get one on a whim and then only use it very little. So you can generally find headsets in near-perfect shape on the 2nd hand market.

 

Having 512 GB is really only a benefit if you are also going to use it for standalone gaming. I personally like using it that way too, but of course there are many simmers who only play sims.

 

Keep in mind that the default headstrap is horrible and it is pretty much mandatory to replace it. The minimum necessity is a non-battery headstrap for 30 bucks or so and a good USB-C cable that is long enough, like Boo said. But there are other possibilities if you want to fly without a cable attached, or such, that are more costly.

 

And like I said in the other topic, the Pimax Crystal Light is also an option, but more demanding on the hardware, and the company has quality control issues, which makes it a risky buy, especially for a beginner who doesn't know what it is supposed to be like. So I would say that a Quest is a better buy for a beginner.

[I./JG68_Sperber]

I can also recommend the Quest 3. The BOBOVR M3 Max Strap with Battery Accessories, Compatible with Meta Quest 3/Quest 3S, 10000 mAh Hot-Swap Battery Pack Accessories, 20 W Fast Charging is also a must.

[SvAF/F16_RedChrille]

I also use Quest 3 512gb, and I use standard headstrap. At least for me it works great and fit my head very good.

[BOO]

6 hours ago, SvAF/F16_RedChrille said:

I also use Quest 3 512gb, and I use standard headstrap. At least for me it works great and fit my head very good.

 

Ah - YOU are the person it was meant for!  🙂 

 

The standard facepad caused me a lot of pain on my cheeks after just a few minutes. The AMVR pad was a huge upgrade. Likewise the standard strap was useless for me and my moon shaped head. 

[BOO]

11 hours ago, Aapje said:

So I would say that a Quest is a better buy for a beginner.

 

I think sometimes we get into a "VR is for Simming" rut, especially when first dabbling. VR is much more than that and simming....well....it might actually change some of your preferences about what you like to do in your game time. This is where something like the Q3 shines as its a pretty good jack of all trades, appears pretty well built (apart from the strap and face plate), had lovely lenses and has good passthrough. My own eperience is that I love VR for everything I didnt think I would whilst finding it it oddly disconnecting in sims. Thats me...go figure. 

 

We are now truly only one generation away from someone getting its absolutely right. They wont cos its VR and no great headset is complete without something screamingly obvious missing.......but at least its possible 🙂 

[I./JG68_Sperber]

The BOBOVR M3 Max Strap prevents the glasses from putting pressure on your face. The glasses are held in place on the neck and forehead and lie freely in front of your face. I also got a third-party face pad. I removed the foam part so that only the plastic part is left for adjustment. The closer the glasses are to your eyes, the larger the FOV! More light comes in, but that doesn't bother you at all!

[Aapje]

I have halo-style on my Quest 2 and Elite-style on my Quest 3, and it turns out that I prefer Elite. It's a bit of a tradeoff. The Halo-style does indeed put less pressure on your face, but it's also much more 'floaty,' so when you move your head the headset is not as secure on the head.

 

It's very much personal preference what you prefer or dislike less.

[SARFlytitus]

Now I’m a happy camper with my Quest 3 equipped with BOBOVR M3 and prescription lenses from VR Opticians . HMD is connected to Virtual Desktop using a RJ45 adaptor and LAN  cable. It’s definately a very nice upgrade compared to my previous PICO 4 setup. My only disappointment is the inability to use Open Composite, despite all my (useless) attempts.
Ok, I don't think about it anymore !

 

[BOO]

19 hours ago, SARFlytitus said:

HMD is connected to Virtual Desktop using a RJ45 adaptor and LAN  cable.

 

 

Can you explain that set up at bit more? My understanding of Virtual Desktop is its a wireless exclusive thing. For instance I have my lads Quest linked via a TP-link AXE75 set up as a 6Ghz access point and positioned just close enough to his head to probably give him long term health issues later in life.  Could be translation to English thing but I am genuinely curious if you are running an alternative set up.  

[Panzerlang]

8 hours ago, BOO said:

 

Can you explain that set up at bit more? My understanding of Virtual Desktop is its a wireless exclusive thing. For instance I have my lads Quest linked via a TP-link AXE75 set up as a 6Ghz access point and positioned just close enough to his head to probably give him long term health issues later in life.  Could be translation to English thing but I am genuinely curious if you are running an alternative set up.  

I guess it's the same setup as for the Pico4. I was running mine via VD on a wired connection:

[BOO]

1 hour ago, Panzerlang said:

I guess it's the same setup as for the Pico4. I was running mine via VD on a wired connection:

 

 

For Virtual Desktop?  So you dont have to just run it purely on WiFi?

 

New to all this and only partially invested as its for my lad primarily. 

 

Cheers

[Panzerlang]

5 hours ago, BOO said:

 

For Virtual Desktop?  So you dont have to just run it purely on WiFi?

 

New to all this and only partially invested as its for my lad primarily. 

 

Cheers

Not back then and I can't see why it would have changed since then. All it wants is data from a router and cable is as good as wireless (better actually, which was/is the reason to do it). I did have to faff around with network settings though, details of which have long since exited my memory.

[BOO]

4 hours ago, Panzerlang said:

Not back then and I can't see why it would have changed since then. All it wants is data from a router and cable is as good as wireless (better actually, which was/is the reason to do it). I did have to faff around with network settings though, details of which have long since exited my memory.

 

I went down the Virtual Desktop route with an Access Point and WiFi purely cos my lad will be playing shoot em ups and I didnt want to risk him stomping on any cables and damaging either himself or the usb socket on the headset. I never thought of using it hard linked. something to bear in mind. 

[Sandman3838]

Excellent thank you all for your input.   

I did pick up on the QEST 3 512MB also the third party head set to replace the straps.

At the moment I'm weeding through the SW options.  Oh my, what a mess.

 

#1- General Windows settings - Windows Virtual Desktop, Quest Software 

#2- IL2 Settings with Seam VR or Open Composite .... Open XR

#3- Pass through SW - Virtual Desktop, Infuse VR, Chroma 

 

About #2 

Now that we are at the end of the year, which road would you suggest. 

I have seen setups for both.  I hope the SW lists I have here are correct.

All this and I'm still looking into #3 the Pass through SW.

 

--------------- STEAM VR
1.  Quest Link  -  OculusSetup.exe
2.  IL2  In-game Graphics Settings
3.  NVIDIA Control Panel Settings
4.  SteamVR Settings
5.  Windows Mixed Reality Settings

-------------- OPEN COMPOSITE
1.  Quest Link  -  OculusSetup.exe
2.  Open Composite 
3.  OpenXR Toolkit
4.  NvidiaProfilerInspector

 

Thank you all 

Happy Holidays and a Happy new year to you.

 

KJB

 

[chiliwili69]

On 12/29/2024 at 1:11 AM, Sandman3838 said:

Oh my, what a mess.

 

IMHO you have picked one of the best (if not the best) VR headsets for IL-2.

 

Here you are a post I did about a simple way to use Quest3 with IL-2. It is simple and good enough.

 

 

[III/JG11_Tiger]

On 11/29/2024 at 11:31 PM, SvAF/F16_RedChrille said:

I also use Quest 3 512gb, and I use standard headstrap. At least for me it works great and fit my head very good.

Just got my quest 3 last week and played for a few 2 hour plus sessions with stock headstrap and no problem, although I was conditioned by the stock quest 1 headstrap, I can see there would be issues keeping it comfy if moving around rather than stationary.