Update 5.504 is now live

[GasTeddy]

17 hours ago, GasTeddy said:

As I understood, this update was not meant to effect Tank Crew, but actually it did. APHE, APCR and HEAT ammo has become practically useless, only HE works as before. All APs work only against player controlled tanks, but against static ones, they are useless. IRL, one does not need several HEATs to kill a truck and T70 certainly cannot survive 3 APHEs + 3 APCRs and 1 HE...

 

Update for the glitch of update in here.

[Avimimus]

12 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Which one of the over two dozen WWII-specific changes was a disappointment to you?

 

They aren't small changes either - engine modifications for three aircraft (effectively new variants), and a remake of the Tempest's flight model...

 

  

12 hours ago, BladeMeister said:

This was the release for FC IV. What did you expect? I will put my money on it that lot of WWI fans are well pleased with this update. I know I am.

 

S!Blade<><

 

I was bracing for disappointment myself - as we have one or two less aircraft in this update - and the sim could really do with one or more 1916 aircraft (*cough* slower two-seaters)... or even just an engine mod to allow for a slower F.E.2 that the Fokker E.III could stand a chance to catch! Honestly, I'd definitely pay for an F.E.2 Collector Plane that had a slower variant and a fixed forward firing gun (or one of the cannon armed variants).

 

But - The aircraft are beautiful, the flight model improvements are really noticeable - and I'm quite happy.

 

That is the surprise - I don't mind the incompleteness that much, because I'm happy to enjoy what we have. It is magnificent. Not that I'd say no to more of course... 

[Enceladus828]

To address the elephant in the room, where is the late model Albatross D.II with the Teves and Braun radiator?

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, the_emperor said:

one question:

does the new 3min limit of the DB605a also extend to the G-6 late and the G-6/AS?

 

Not right now, no.

[Avimimus]

18 minutes ago, Enceladus828 said:

To address the elephant in the room, where is the late model Albatross D.II with the Teves and Braun radiator?

 

That is actually a pretty reasonable question! Could've made the eighth aircraft afterall!  

 

Mind you, you are technically wrong my dear Jovian moon - the 'elephant ear radiator' variant of the D.II was the early one! 😄

 

But definitely a reasonable quesiton.

[Enceladus828]

59 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

That is actually a pretty reasonable question! Could've made the eighth aircraft afterall!  

Did a search and as of October 2023 it's not planned: Nieuport 17 and Albatros D.II impressions - General Discussion - IL-2 Sturmovik Forum 🤯

 

Why? And as you said about the slower FE2 variant, adding both some variants, especially with a planeset of up to 8 planes wouldn't be that hard.

 

[Mistralfred901]

I flew over Paris and didn't see the Arc de Triomphe?

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, Enceladus828 said:

Did a search and as of October 2023 it's not planned: Nieuport 17 and Albatros D.II impressions - General Discussion - IL-2 Sturmovik Forum 🤯

 

Why? And as you said about the slower FE2 variant, adding both some variants, especially with a planeset of up to 8 planes wouldn't be that hard.

 

Well, I think the core team is pretty busy with Korea - and we don't know about the 3rd party... there could be all sorts of considerations. I'm not sure we need to know, but I think asking about the D.II late is reasonable enough as a question.

[-250H-Ursus_]

Now that i notice.

Bf-109G-6 Late and Bf-109G-AS (No C3) lacks the 1.42ata 3 min mod. A little drift, but with 4 differents 109 with the same configuration i can't blame 😄

[FTC_ChilliBalls]

On 11/20/2024 at 9:52 AM, FeuerFliegen said:

I really hope this means the devs are going to do the same for the Me410 soon?  What about Bf110 G-2?

110 G2 I believe has a different oil system similar to the one in the 109 G Reconnaissance versions which had an additional oil tank.

[StaB/Tomio_VR***]

What does the Tempest FM revision consisted into ?
Some details would be welcome...

[SIA_Mal]

13 hours ago, Sneaksie said:

Do you still have this generated mission or you played another after it? Which difficulty settings you have selected on the Career screen (it was in Career, right)?

Career Mode - happened both with a ME 410 and a Mosquito

Carrer Speed - Rapid

Mission Start - On Runway

Power Balance - Parity

Air Forces and AAA - Medium

Ground Forces - Medium

[JG4_Moltke1871]

Are still placeholders in the Western Front careers? I saw DH. 4‘s Flying around in September 1916…

 

I had to attack an airfield where Bristol fighters where on the airfield …

 

Maybe both to modern for September 1916 ?

[sgt_fresh]

23 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Which one of the over two dozen WWII-specific changes was a disappointment to you?

Luke, I was thrilled to get this game on day 1 in 2013. I think I have purchased all the modules along with some collector planes, except the Tank game. Game play is top notch, however the lack of new maps and planes is not what I expected. It appears to me that like Cliffs of Dover WW2 is being left behined for WW1. I find the mass content creation for WW1 astounding. I am sure they have an audience for it, and good for them. I guess the Pacific, North Africa, and Naval aircraft will never appear in game, and it is late 2024. The end of the year is approaching fast. I lack confidence in this system.

[Bilbo_Baggins]

Unable to play for a while - what exactly changed with the Tempest FM?

[Herodotus]

On 11/20/2024 at 4:21 AM, ITAF_Rani said:

1. Bf 109 G-4 and Bf 109 G-6: added engine modifications from 1943 with increased operating time in emergency modes;

Happy to see this also. Also, grateful for attention to career modes, as I have multiple careers going in all theatres…looking forward to buzzing the Eiffel Tower at sunset in a Snipe, for a start. Attention to AA appreciated, as used to be have to use a mod to increase lethality.

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, sgt_fresh said:

Luke, I was thrilled to get this game on day 1 in 2013. I think I have purchased all the modules along with some collector planes, except the Tank game. Game play is top notch, however the lack of new maps and planes is not what I expected. It appears to me that like Cliffs of Dover WW2 is being left behined for WW1. I find the mass content creation for WW1 astounding. I am sure they have an audience for it, and good for them. I guess the Pacific, North Africa, and Naval aircraft will never appear in game, and it is late 2024. The end of the year is approaching fast. I lack confidence in this system.

 

Eight WWII planes and two more WWII maps are being worked on as we speak, so I'm not sure where you get this idea that WWII is being left behind.

And again, more than two dozen improvements were made to the WWII side with this last update. If that doesn't show a commitment to making the WWII side of things better then I don't know what is.

 

We've also made it clear that content like the Pacific is being reserved for the first WWII title on the updated engine after Korea is complete.

Also, since when is Cliffs of Dover being left behind for WWI? 

[354thFG_Panda_]

19 hours ago, StaB/Tomio_VR*** said:

What does the Tempest FM revision consisted into ?
Some details would be welcome...

 

13 hours ago, Bilbo_Baggins said:

Unable to play for a while - what exactly changed with the Tempest FM?

Spoiler

Materials on Tempest blowdowns (wind tunnel tests) from the British archive (for which many thanks to caring people).

If before this it was only possible to suspect that its lift force was somewhat overstated - there was no precise data on its aerodynamics, it was necessary to rely on estimates based on indirect available figures (and because of this a somewhat optimistic turn was obtained), now everything fell into place. The speed and rate of climb remained practically the same (although the rate of climb near the ground and the acceleration dynamics became even slightly better).

 

Google translate 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/17232-обсуждение-версии-5504/#findComment-924526

 

Edited November 22, 2024 by 356thFS_Red_Panda

[Zooropa_Fly]

5 hours ago, sgt_fresh said:

I find the mass content creation for WW1 astounding.

 

You shouldn't really - it was stated from day 1 that FC was planned to be a porting over of RoF content.

 

Apart from being able to fly heavy bombers, there's hardly a lack of ww2 planes and maps. 

[Avimimus]

10 hours ago, sgt_fresh said:

I find the mass content creation for WW1 astounding.

 

You do realise that there have been two (2) new aircraft for WWI in the past 12 years?

 

In the same time period there have been sixty-eight (68) new aircraft variants for WWII... and that is not counting engine-variants (many WWII aircraft have subvariants, whereas WWI aircraft are lacking engine variants - including the most common engines for some types of aircraft).

 

There has literally been 34 new WWII aircraft for every new WWI aircraft... over the last dozen years!

[Avimimus]

6 hours ago, 356thFS_Red_Panda said:

 

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Materials on Tempest blowdowns from the British archive (for which many thanks to caring people).

If before this it was only possible to suspect that its lift force was somewhat overstated - there was no precise data on its aerodynamics, it was necessary to rely on estimates based on indirect available figures (and because of this a somewhat optimistic turn was obtained), now everything fell into place. The speed and rate of climb remained practically the same (although the rate of climb near the ground and the acceleration dynamics became even slightly better).

 

Google translate 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/17232-обсуждение-версии-5504/#findComment-924526

 

 

Yes, I gather climb at low altitudes is slightly better, as is acceleration, but turn radius is increased, and roll-rate is reduced... at least that was my impression. It feels a bit more like a descendant of the Hawker Typhoon now... albeit completely redesigned to be more of a thoroughbred.

[sgt_fresh]

6 hours ago, Avimimus said:

 

You do realise that there have been two (2) new aircraft for WWI in the past 12 years?

 

In the same time period there have been sixty-eight (68) new aircraft variants for WWII... and that is not counting engine-variants (many WWII aircraft have subvariants, whereas WWI aircraft are lacking engine variants - including the most common engines for some types of aircraft).

 

There has literally been 34 new WWII aircraft for every new WWI aircraft... over the last dozen years!

 

The entire update 5.504 banner is FC we can play numbers all we want to since the year of 2013. I think the WWII game needs new maps and a few new naval planes or some other additions to the game to support WWII players.

[Hotaru_Ito]

The new Tempest FM seems like a big improvement, I just tried it in QMB and while it's still a good fighter, you can't throw it around in a turn fight without stalling nearly as much as you could before. I have to admit I'll kind of miss abusing it in QMB, but it'll be great to have a career in it without feeling like I'm cheating.

 

Haven't tried out FCIV yet but I'm really looking forward to the Eindecker and DH2 in VR especially. Great to finally have the full 4-season Western Front map too! (but no Arc de Triomphe to fly under?)

 

Still wish we could have a way to set enemy AAA and fighter strength separately, mostly for Western Front Allied fighter-bomber careers where AAA should be dangerous but enemy fighters should hardly ever be a threat.

[YoYo]

After the last patch. Halberstadt D.II recived this glitch (add all modification as well)  .... any hotfix? Without modification it also occurs but to a lesser extent, about 10% of it is also present.

 

 

The others models are ok.

Edited November 22, 2024 by YoYo

[Charlo-VR]

Unless I simply can't find where they display in the cockpits, the stock cockpit photos are missing from the Albatros D.3 and the Airco D.H.2.

[sgt_fresh]

21 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Eight WWII planes and two more WWII maps are being worked on as we speak, so I'm not sure where you get this idea that WWII is being left behind.

And again, more than two dozen improvements were made to the WWII side with this last update. If that doesn't show a commitment to making the WWII side of things better then I don't know what is.

 

We've also made it clear that content like the Pacific is being reserved for the first WWII title on the updated engine after Korea is complete.

Also, since when is Cliffs of Dover being left behind for WWI? 

Getting new engine parts is great. I look forward to using them in the future, but it falls short especially as this year runs out. iL-2 users do have expectations regardless.

[BladeMeister]

7 hours ago, sgt_fresh said:

Getting new engine parts is great. I look forward to using them in the future, but it falls short especially as this year runs out. iL-2 users do have expectations regardless.

13 hours ago, sgt_fresh said:

 

The entire update 5.504 banner is FC we can play numbers all we want to since the year of 2013. I think the WWII game needs new maps and a few new naval planes or some other additions to the game to support WWII players.

I feel for you big guy! Not really, but hey, it will be ok. Everyone runs out of tears sooner or later.

 

 

Regardless, I am still loving FC IV!

 

 

S!Blade<><

[Hoots]

9 hours ago, sgt_fresh said:

 

The entire update 5.504 banner is FC we can play numbers all we want to since the year of 2013. I think the WWII game needs new maps and a few new naval planes or some other additions to the game to support WWII players.

This should be framed as an example of peak internet arguing. “I won’t let facts and hard data prove me wrong”. 

[sgt_fresh]

2 hours ago, Hoots said:

This should be framed as an example of peak internet arguing. “I won’t let facts and hard data prove me wrong”. 

It is not about data it is about providing new content. Your post is entierly non productive. You take what you are given run with it.

3 hours ago, BladeMeister said:

I feel for you big guy! Not really, but hey, it will be ok. Everyone runs out of tears sooner or later.

 

 

Regardless, I am still loving FC IV!

 

 

S!Blade<><

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another Drive by with a keyboard. So much for posting, Underachievers lying in wait.

Edited November 23, 2024 by sgt_fresh
Spelling correction

[=EAustral=Topeka]

11 hours ago, YoYo said:

Después del último parche, Halberstadt D.II recibió este error (agregue también todas las modificaciones)   ... ¿alguna corrección ? Sin modificaciones, también ocurre, pero en menor medida, aproximadamente el 10 % también está presente.

 

 

Los demás modelos están bien.

Same problem here

[FeuerFliegen]

Just want to say to the devs, I can't say how much I appreciate us getting new engine options such as the AM-38 on the MiG-3.  It's like we're getting a whole new version of the plane.  Same goes for the updated engine timers on the Bf109 G-4 and G-6.  Will we eventually get every other plane with this same engine?  i.e. G-6 Late without MW50, Bf110 G-2.

 

If it's possible, I'd really love if you did this for other planes, such as if we had the Merlin 50M engine for the Spitfire Mk.Vb, Alta Quota engine for the Macci Mc.202 updated engine timers for the P-39 L-1, Me410, etc.  New engines and/or engine timers really breathe a new life into many of these older planes!

[Hoots]

2 hours ago, sgt_fresh said:

It is not about data it is about providing new content. Your post is entierly non productive. You take what you are given run with it.

Another Drive by with a keyboard. So much for posting, Underachievers lying in wait.

Eight WWII planes and two more WWII maps are being worked on as we speak, so I'm not sure where you get this idea that WWII is being left behind.

And again, more than two dozen improvements were made to the WWII side with this last update. If that doesn't show a commitment to making the WWII side of things better then I don't know what is.

 

Except the data clearly shows the opposite of what you’re saying? New content is there or is coming. Posting a response based on known data is hardly a drive by no matter how much it shows up a flaw in your argument. But yeah, you do you I guess. I’m off to do some more underachieving. 

[Trooper117]

Don't waste time on him Hoots... he does this stuff every few months or so. 

Edited November 23, 2024 by Trooper117

[Trooper117]

I'm sure my drome was around here...

 

[YoYo]

16 hours ago, YoYo said:

After the last patch. Halberstadt D.II recived this glitch (add all modification as well)  .... any hotfix? Without modification it also occurs but to a lesser extent, about 10% of it is also present.

 

 

The others models are ok.

 

Without modification, less but this issue is present also:

 

[BladeMeister]

6 hours ago, sgt_fresh said:

Another Drive by with a keyboard. So much for posting, Underachievers lying in wait.

No need to get personal. I will not insult you with my underachievement, so I will unsubscribe from your YouTube channel and leave you in peace. Have a nice day. Just FYI, I believe 1C sold the rights to Cliffs of Dover to Fulgrum? and TFS is developing it. 1C no longer has anything to do with developing DLC or updates for CLOD.

 

S!Blade<><

[Charlo-VR]

37 minutes ago, YoYo said:

 

Without modification, less but this issue is present also:

 

Yes, I experienced a single translucent black flashing line throughout a career mode flight in a Halberstadt. It was almost as if a black waypoint arrow line was partially flashing into view every second for most of the flight. I am using a Pimax Crystal Light and did not experience that on any quick missions with any other plane.

[BladeMeister]

35 minutes ago, sgt_fresh said:

[removed] - mods

Moving on. Back to exploring FC IV. Thanks to all at 1C for all the new content. Good work gents.

 

S!Blade<><

[JG4_Moltke1871]

 

 

Zeppelin sheds in 0522... and there are more to find... I hope the effort to build them has a good reason...🙏

[JG_deserteagle540]

Thanks for the FM update of the Tempest and the 3 minute engine timer update for the 109G4/G6. Great work