Morane S. Bullet as Collector plane.

[Flashy]

15 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Sometimes these third-party planes have come from full-time "pro" modelers, yes, but some have also come from part-timers, so to say. The IAR 80/81 was one such project, and in fact the same person is behind the upcoming I-153. So, there is a precedent at the least. 

Ah okay, I didnt know that and stand corrected.. I'm glad to know there are more people out there who could conceivable make 3d models then. I wish we had one who was keen on WW1 planes though, because in the 10 years since RoF stopped development, we have only had the two new scouts..  I still think we need to find an alternative way to justify using a more formal process (i.e Ugra media) to create new WW1 planes on a semi-regular basis..

[Dr1falcon500]

1 hour ago, Flashy said:

Ah okay, I didnt know that and stand corrected.. I'm glad to know there are more people out there who could conceivable make 3d models then. I wish we had one who was keen on WW1 planes though, because in the 10 years since RoF stopped development, we have only had the two new scouts..  I still think we need to find an alternative way to justify using a more formal process (i.e Ugra media) to create new WW1 planes on a semi-regular basis..

I would be surprised if Ugra is the only group capable of this sort of work in Russia or elsewhere. I'm sure there are quite a lot of capable 3D artists who could handle that sort of work. Any third party planes would be sold through IC. I used to make 3D models to use in a train sim. The sim offered to sell my stuff on their site, I'd get 5%. Not a good deal. I would hope IC would be more generous.

[Flashy]

29 minutes ago, Dr1falcon500 said:

I would be surprised if Ugra is the only group capable of this sort of work in Russia or elsewhere. I'm sure there are quite a lot of capable 3D artists who could handle that sort of work. Any third party planes would be sold through IC. I used to make 3D models to use in a train sim. The sim offered to sell my stuff on their site, I'd get 5%. Not a good deal. I would hope IC would be more generous.

Yeah no I didnt mean to imply there arent others in Russia (or anywhere for that matter), I just meant within our community there doesnt seem to be very many.. at least not enough to provide a couple of planes a year for the project, so we need some other plan...

5% is pretty shocking.. I dont know how many hours it would take to model a FC plane, but I would guess it is at least a few hundred.. there would have to be a lot of sale for that 5% to start getting close to paying for those hours..

[Dr1falcon500]

3 hours ago, Flashy said:

Yeah no I didnt mean to imply there arent others in Russia (or anywhere for that matter), I just meant within our community there doesnt seem to be very many.. at least not enough to provide a couple of planes a year for the project, so we need some other plan...

5% is pretty shocking.. I dont know how many hours it would take to model a FC plane, but I would guess it is at least a few hundred.. there would have to be a lot of sale for that 5% to start getting close to paying for those hours..

Quite a lot of making an accurate model of any kind is research which adds to the total. Of course time gathering the material too.

[LukeFF]

We also work a lot with Digital Forms - they are the ones behind the models in Tank Crew, for instance, and other models here and there both for GB and Korea. But, like Ugra, they also do a lot of work for other developers as well.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

43 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

We also work a lot with Digital Forms - they are the ones behind the models in Tank Crew, for instance, and other models here and there both for GB and Korea. But, like Ugra, they also do a lot of work for other developers as well.

Let's them milk our waltes with collector or pack planes 🤑

[Eldur]

On 11/12/2024 at 11:11 PM, ST_Catchov said:

 

Channel map, flying boats, seaplanes .... 🙂

 

Seriously, this is FC Vol V content with some still missing assets added, also Zeppelin when?

 

Would even want to see a Vol VI then with more early stuff and more/better air to ground things going for all those 2 seater recon and attack planes.

[Trooper117]

2 hours ago, Eldur said:

 

Seriously, this is FC Vol V content with some still missing assets added, also Zeppelin when?

 

Would even want to see a Vol VI then with more early stuff and more/better air to ground things going for all those 2 seater recon and attack planes.

 

And that is very unlikely to happen unfortunately... all that has been hinted in the future is another look at fm's if they have the time.

[JGr2/J5_Klugermann]

I wonder what they will include in vols VII and VIII.

[Trooper117]

22 hours ago, J5_Klugermann said:

I wonder what they will include in vols VII and VIII.

 

FC VII, ''The Forgotten Aircraft''...

FC VIII ''The Lost Aircraft''...

[=J18=Manfred_Schultz]

On 12/9/2024 at 10:08 AM, J5_Klugermann said:

I wonder what they will include in vols VII and VIII.

I don't think they'll make more volumes, unfortunately 

[Davesax1965]

Well, I voted "no" for the Morane. Not that I don't want new aircraft, but..... what are you going to fight with it ?

The E3 is really the only viable alternative. We have a Zeppelin on the way, but...... really, we need some early war two seaters. 

[No.23_Starling]

23 minutes ago, Ace_Pilto said:

The priorities of the developers are obviously aligned with the multiplayer crowd and producing clownwagons for people to score virtual points in. They have been the same since RoF. Your chances of seeing a Morane or anything pre 1916 are 5/8ths of Foxtrot Alpha.

Say what now? The Snipe and SSIV were added because the devs wanted them - there’s no thread or poll asking for them to be added. All the other planes are ports from Rise of Flight. The MP crowd have been more interested in revisions to existing FMs than anything else.
 

They’ve added tons to single player mode over the past few years. Now their priority is Korea. WoFF has the Morane if you want to fly it in a single player campaign.

[ST_Catchov]

12 hours ago, US103_Rummell said:

The MP crowd have been more interested in revisions to existing FMs than anything else.

 

You mean like the DR1 that flies around unimpeded with half the top wing missing without structural collapse?

[Ace_Pilto]

It's only logical that development time is invested in what is perceived to have the best return on investment. I'm a bit cynical about what those perceptions are but I don't deny that they are often validated or that an effort is made to improve what already exists. New content provides the impetus that allows for revisions and improvements but, it also adds more issues that require revision and improvement. At some point you end up in what I call "the Star Citizen loop" of development where things increasingly go wrong because the new content creates new issues that absorb resources that could be used to go back and fix the fundamentals.

 

Resource management is not a simple task and it might be hard to sell the notion that improving the existing foundation is important.

[No.23_Starling]

8 hours ago, ST_Catchov said:

 

You mean like the DR1 that flies around unimpeded with half the top wing missing without structural collapse?

Or the P DIIIa pulling 10Gs. I can’t see them looking again at any DMs

[Ace_Pilto]

Or the SE-5a that flies on quaaludes.

We all have our complaints. The best use of resources in in creating a service. An ongoing infrastructure that provides improvement over time.

Edited April 3 by Ace_Pilto

[ST_Catchov]

17 hours ago, Ace_Pilto said:

Or the SE-5a that flies on quaaludes.

 

An apt description.

 

18 hours ago, US103_Rummell said:

Or the P DIIIa pulling 10Gs. I can’t see them looking again at any DMs

 

Yeah crazy.  I can't see them looking at any FM's either. What we got is it. Maybe an AI Zep

[Trooper117]

We'll all probably be dead before they even get the skin templates done for FC IV... 

 

19 hours ago, ST_Catchov said:

What we got is it. Maybe an AI Zep

 

This is probably right...

[Dutch2]

I still remember that at the RoF forum there was a guy who did create a 3D model of the MS Bullet. Now the new management is more open to modders, who knows he can give it another try.