Great Battles Future

[Jackfraser24]

3 hours ago, 357th_KW said:

Assuming you come up with solutions for getting the big bombers into the game, and managing the ranges involved (and I think this is possible), the next big hurdle here is coming up with 5 aircraft for each side in such a scenario.  
 

For Europe doing a map of East Anglia to Central Germany probably makes the most sense.  You could make it long and narrow and a map with roughly the same surface area of Rhineland would stretch all the way to Leipzig, which was a big focal area of the US oil campaign.  That covers mid 1943 through the end of the war.  A mixed day and night scenario might work best - B-17 and Lancaster, Mosquito variants and throw in a US escort fighter variant we don’t already have.  And then give the Germans a 109G-6AS and an early D-9 with no MW for daytime, with a 110, Ju88 and He219 for night fighters.

 

In the pacific it would probably make the most sense to just include a B-24 in a Solomon’s or New Guinea 1943/44 module.

 

How likely would a strategic bombing module be made at this point?

[BraveSirRobin]

21 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

How likely would a strategic bombing module be made at this point?

Pretty close to 0%.  The game engine is currently optimized more for tactical ops.

[DBFlyguy]

 

17 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

A lot of people have posted their desires to have a module concerning strategic bombers, wanting to fly planes like Lancaster's and B-17's over to Germany and back. Even though I think that it is doable, lots of hurdles would stand in the way for the development team. But that's not what I want to talk about.

 

Would a module on strategic bombing over Japan or Italy be worth doing?

 

42 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

How likely would a strategic bombing module be made at this point?

 

You've got a better chance getting Gal Gadot to publicly announce her undying love for you than ever seeing a flyable B-17...B-24...Lancaster...in this game.

 

 

Hopefully we'll eventually get a flyable B-25 or B-26 someday.... and "Maybe" an AI B-17 or B-24 someday...

 

 

Edited July 25, 2022 by DBFlyguy

[Jackfraser24]

Oh, well. New topic. I think that the developers should have done Kursk instead of Kuban, even though I like how it has the mountains and the sea. I’ve probably said this too many times for most people’s likings, but Kursk would still be ideal for several reasons:

• Largest aerial battle on the Eastern Front
• IL-2s and Ju-87s played a massive part in offensive aerial warfare
• Lots of ground targets to destroy like AFVs, trains and artillery
• The map would be large enough to have several other battles nearby like Kharkov and Belgorod without being too much to load for your computer 
• Still a large selection of aircraft to choose from
• It is one of WWII’s Great Battles, hence the name of the game

Back to Point #5, the one with the aircraft choices. The list of planes chosen may look something like this

 

Soviet

• IL-2M2 1943 (M3 was in Kuban)
• La-5F
• Pe-2 series 206 1943
• P-39 Q-15
• Yak-1M

Axis

• Bf-109 G-6 Erla-hood 
• Bf-110 F-2
• Fw-190 A-4
• Ju-87 D-5
• Ju-88 A-14

Some of the aircraft might not have been used at Kursk, so my apologies.

 

I made my point anyway.

 

[BraveSirRobin]

14 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Oh, well. New topic. I think that the developers should have done Kursk instead of Kuban, even though I like how it has the mountains and the sea. I’ve probably said this too many times for most people’s likings, but Kursk would still be ideal for several reasons:

• Largest aerial battle on the Eastern Front
• IL-2s and Ju-87s played a massive part in offensive aerial warfare
• Lots of ground targets to destroy like AFVs, trains and artillery
• The map would be large enough to have several other battles nearby like Kharkov and Belgorod without being too much to load for your computer 
• Still a large selection of aircraft to choose from
• It is one of WWII’s Great Battles, hence the name of the game

Back to Point #5, the one with the aircraft choices. The list of planes chosen may look something like this

 

Soviet

• IL-2M2 1943 (M3 was in Kuban)
• La-5F
• Pe-2 series 206 1943
• P-39 Q-15
• Yak-1M

Axis

• Bf-109 G-6 Erla-hood 
• Bf-110 F-2
• Fw-190 A-4
• Ju-87 D-5
• Ju-88 A-14

Some of the aircraft might not have been used at Kursk, so my apologies.

 

I made my point anyway.

 

 

Buy Tank Crew – Clash at Prokhorovka.  That is Kursk.

[Jackfraser24]

3 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said:

 

Buy Tank Crew – Clash at Prokhorovka.  That is Kursk.

I’m fully aware of that. I was suggesting another Kursk module dedicated for aircraft with a map which would be much, much larger and incorporate cities like Kursk itself, Kharkov and Belgorod. Also, an IL-2 Battle of Kursk should also include AQMB, missions, Pilot Careers, and campaigns flying planes like the IL-2 or Ju-87. 

[Eisenfaustus]

1 hour ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I’m fully aware of that. I was suggesting another Kursk module dedicated for aircraft with a map which would be much, much larger and incorporate cities like Kursk itself, Kharkov and Belgorod. Also, an IL-2 Battle of Kursk should also include AQMB, missions, Pilot Careers, and campaigns flying planes like the IL-2 or Ju-87. 

if we went back to the eastern front I‘d prefer a late war setting to a rather forced midwar planeset - G6 Erla? We already have two G6 variants - one with an Erla Hood. German midwar is as fleshed out as it gets. For Luftwaffe fighters there only remains early and late war. 
 

And even VVS has more interesting options late war. 
 

Your idea would better fit a collector map concept which I would welcome very much - yet Jason said a few years ago that there are no plans for anything like that. 

[BraveSirRobin]

8 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I’m fully aware of that. I was suggesting another Kursk module dedicated for aircraft with a map which would be much, much larger and incorporate cities like Kursk itself, Kharkov and Belgorod. Also, an IL-2 Battle of Kursk should also include AQMB, missions, Pilot Careers, and campaigns flying planes like the IL-2 or Ju-87. 

I’d rather have the Kuban map than a larger steppe map.  It isn’t even a close call.

[simfan2015]

The Next Great Battles module will be ... what is feasible.

No more, no less.

AFAIK Jason is someone who does all that is possible and always seems to also listen to the customer base.

Therefore I believe they will again deliver the most logical next theather module(s) ... within certain limits, be it man power or framework.

Whether 4 engine bombers, PTO or Italy is (even) possible ? ... Only they know, but I sure am at least as curious about is as anyone !

Can't wait !

Edited July 26, 2022 by simfan2015

[Jackfraser24]

2 hours ago, simfan2015 said:

The Next Great Battles module will be ... what is feasible.

No more, no less.

AFAIK Jason is someone who does all that is possible and always seems to also listen to the customer base.

Therefore I believe they will again deliver the most logical next theather module(s) ... within certain limits, be it man power or framework.

Whether 4 engine bombers, PTO or Italy is (even) possible ? ... Only they know, but I sure am at least as curious about is as anyone !

Can't wait !

Well then, I guess IL-2 Battle of the Pelennor Fields is out of the question…

[Jackfraser24]

Why Berlin should be done (a short summary this time (sorry I repeat myself again))

• Final major WWII battle in Europe so it would be good to commemorate that by adding it to IL-2 Great Battles
• Existing German planes from Bodenplatte and Normandy could be used in AQMB and Pilot Career mode. Then planes like would the Bf-109 K-4 and Fw-190 A-8 could be used on the East Front as well as on the West
• Near depletion of German aircraft to choose from leaves awesome aircraft like the Ta-152, He-162, He-219, and more mundane ones like the Bf 109 G-10 and Fw-190 A-9 (no offence) since we already have many 109 and 190 variants
•  The Ju-88 Mistel would be included
• IL-2 Battle of Berlin wouldn’t be exclusively about the Battle of Berlin, but also the months and many battles leading up to it when the Luftwaffe was still a strong and effective fighting force until the disastrous aftermath of Operation Bodenplatte 
• The developers wouldn’t have to spend a great deal of time with modelling features like buildings or forests. This is because they can already base it off the existing objects/environments from Bodenplatte 
• A late Eastern front battle would also give the VVS 1944-45 aircraft like the Yak 9U, Yak 3, IL-10, Tu-2 and the La-7. Therefore they would be contemporarily on par with the German, British and American planes
• Would add a great map and great additional aircraft for multiplayer 
• The He-162 could be used in a scripted campaign since it is uncertain if they shot down any planes at all in real life 
• In multiplayer, Air Marshal would make all the maps more interesting. With good leadership, the Allies could speed up the inevitable end of the war, or the Germans could drive back the Allied advances (no offence nor disrespect meant)

Edited July 28, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[tattywelshie]

I'd just love to have Italy, that way we can have a DO 217 and a Fritz X bomb to launch!  

[ITAF_Rani]

https://balloonstodrones.com/2018/07/25/smashing-the-axis-how-the-allied-air-forces-supported-the-purpose-behind-operation-husky/

 

 

[Jackfraser24]

On 7/29/2022 at 10:36 PM, ITAF_Rani said:

https://balloonstodrones.com/2018/07/25/smashing-the-axis-how-the-allied-air-forces-supported-the-purpose-behind-operation-husky/

 

 

Like your enthusiasm 

[Jackfraser24]

Why Tunisia should be done (only if Team Fusion is never going to go there).

• Would satisfy people who would want Great Battles to go to North Africa.
• Wouldn’t get in the way of Team Fusion’s roadmap to where they want to go in the future.
• Would act as a chronological prequel to the Battle of Sicily and ultimately the Italian Campaign.
• Thousands of aircraft were involved in the Tunisian Campaign, which means there would be lots of missions and pilot careers available.
• New desert environment that isn’t a mod (like Desert Kuban). Would be an opportunity to fly tropicalized planes where they actually used them.
• Was quite a long campaign (<6 months). Therefore the pilot career would be quite long and engaging since there were thousands of aircraft present.
• You would have four air forces to choose from - German or Italian and British or American. 
• You would have to deal with sandstorms, strong winds and the scorching heat which could cause harm to your aircraft or the pilot itself (heatstroke).
• Surplus ground targets to attack like trucks, tanks and field guns. Lots of air fields and some ports to attack too.
• (What I’ve gathered) Team Fusion wants to go back to the Channel Front and won’t be back anytime soon. And when they finish, they might want to go to El Alamein or somewhere in a completely different theatre. They might give 1CGS the all clear to make Battle of Tunisia. 
• Great aircraft set

Axis

• Fw-190 A-4 Trop 
• Me-210 C
• Macchi 200 Series VII
• Macchi 202 Series XII
• SM.79

Allies

• A-20G
• Blenheim Mk.IV
• Hurricane Mk.IV
• Spitfire Mk.Vc
• Spitfire Mk.IXc (1942

[CountZero]

9 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Why Tunisia should be done (only if Team Fusion is never going to go there).

• Would satisfy people who would want Great Battles to go to North Africa.
• Wouldn’t get in the way of Team Fusion’s roadmap to where they want to go in the future.
• Would act as a chronological prequel to the Battle of Sicily and ultimately the Italian Campaign.
• Thousands of aircraft were involved in the Tunisian Campaign, which means there would be lots of missions and pilot careers available.
• New desert environment that isn’t a mod (like Desert Kuban). Would be an opportunity to fly tropicalized planes where they actually used them.
• Was quite a long campaign (<6 months). Therefore the pilot career would be quite long and engaging since there were thousands of aircraft present.
• You would have four air forces to choose from - German or Italian and British or American. 
• You would have to deal with sandstorms, strong winds and the scorching heat which could cause harm to your aircraft or the pilot itself (heatstroke).
• Surplus ground targets to attack like trucks, tanks and field guns. Lots of air fields and some ports to attack too.
• (What I’ve gathered) Team Fusion wants to go back to the Channel Front and won’t be back anytime soon. And when they finish, they might want to go to El Alamein or somewhere in a completely different theatre. They might give 1CGS the all clear to make Battle of Tunisia. 
• Great aircraft set

Axis

• Fw-190 A-4 Trop 
• Me-210 C
• Macchi 200 Series VII
• Macchi 202 Series XII
• SM.79

Allies

• A-20G
• Blenheim Mk.IV
• Hurricane Mk.IV
• Spitfire Mk.Vc
• Spitfire Mk.IXc (1942

Where are americans ? thats one side set of airplanes on allied side

[Jackfraser24]

22 minutes ago, CountZero said:

Where are americans ? thats one side set of airplanes on allied side

Allies (revised list)

• A-20G
• B-26C
• Baltimore Mk.III
• Hurricane Mk.IV
• Spitfire Mk.Vc

[ITAF_Rani]

9 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Allies (revised list)

• A-20G
• B-26C
• Baltimore Mk.III
• Hurricane Mk.IV
• Spitfire Mk.Vc

I would add North American A36

[Jackfraser24]

19 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Why Tunisia should be done (only if Team Fusion is never going to go there).

• Would satisfy people who would want Great Battles to go to North Africa.
• Wouldn’t get in the way of Team Fusion’s roadmap to where they want to go in the future.
• Would act as a chronological prequel to the Battle of Sicily and ultimately the Italian Campaign.
• Thousands of aircraft were involved in the Tunisian Campaign, which means there would be lots of missions and pilot careers available.
• New desert environment that isn’t a mod (like Desert Kuban). Would be an opportunity to fly tropicalized planes where they actually used them.
• Was quite a long campaign (<6 months). Therefore the pilot career would be quite long and engaging since there were thousands of aircraft present.
• You would have four air forces to choose from - German or Italian and British or American. 
• You would have to deal with sandstorms, strong winds and the scorching heat which could cause harm to your aircraft or the pilot itself (heatstroke).
• Surplus ground targets to attack like trucks, tanks and field guns. Lots of air fields and some ports to attack too.
• (What I’ve gathered) Team Fusion wants to go back to the Channel Front and won’t be back anytime soon. And when they finish, they might want to go to El Alamein or somewhere in a completely different theatre. They might give 1CGS the all clear to make Battle of Tunisia. 
• Great aircraft set

Axis

• Fw-190 A-4 Trop 
• Me-210 C
• Macchi 200 Series VII
• Macchi 202 Series XII
• SM.79

Allies

• A-20G
• Blenheim Mk.IV
• Hurricane Mk.IV
• Spitfire Mk.Vc
• Spitfire Mk.IXc (1942

Do you all think I have made some good points?

[DD_Crash]

I think that there are a lot of "nice to have" ideas and I hope that Jason bears this in mind but it must be what will make them more money so they can continue the project.

[jaguar]

On 8/2/2022 at 8:10 PM, ITAF_Rani said:

I would add North American A36

A36s did not partecipate in the Battle of Tunisia. They were base there for Husky. My suggestion for the Allied side:

 

- P-38F

- Spitfire Vc trop

- Hurricane IId

- Bisley (Blenheim V)

- flyable B-25 or B-26, or Baltimore 

[Jackfraser24]

29 minutes ago, jaguar said:

A36s did not partecipate in the Battle of Tunisia. They were base there for Husky. My suggestion for the Allied side:

 

- P-38F

- Spitfire Vc trop

- Hurricane IId

- Bisley (Blenheim V)

- flyable B-25 or B-26, or Baltimore 

Did you get this info from online or from a book? If you got it from the internet, could you tell me which website please?

[jaguar]

Hi, check entries for 27th and 86th Fighter Groups here: Historyofwar.org

 

Also, pleas look for official usaaf document "Combat Squadrons of WW2" online.

 

Cheers

[Mtnbiker1998]

On 8/14/2022 at 3:16 AM, jaguar said:

A36s did not partecipate in the Battle of Tunisia. They were base there for Husky. My suggestion for the Allied side:

 

- P-38F

- Spitfire Vc trop

- Hurricane IId

- Bisley (Blenheim V)

- flyable B-25 or B-26, or Baltimore 

Definitely needs a P-40 variant in there. Preferably a Merlin equipped one (if it fits in the timeline) so they devs don't gimp it with engine limits...

[DBFlyguy]

On 8/14/2022 at 3:16 AM, jaguar said:

A36s did not partecipate in the Battle of Tunisia. They were base there for Husky. My suggestion for the Allied side:

 

 

- Hurricane IId

 

We already have the Hurri IId

29 minutes ago, Mtnbiker1998 said:

Definitely needs a P-40 variant in there. Preferably a Merlin equipped one (if it fits in the timeline) so they devs don't gimp it with engine limits...

P-40F would fit the bill.  Just need the devs to get rid of engine timers across the board... maybe someday...hopefully!

[Jackfraser24]

Why Battle of Sicily should be done.

• It’s a popular “I want them to go there.”
• People have longed for more Italian planes.
• In-fact, since they are running out of German planes to do, doing Italy/Sicily brings in more aircraft options.
• Major campaign during WWII. Was the first Allied invasion of Axis occupied Europe.
• Numbers of aircraft on either side would be more than enough to offer battle.
• British aircraft carrier units were involved in the amphibious invasion.
• Lots of other war ships were present too.
• Awesome aircraft like the Fairey Swordfish, Bristol Beaufort and Beaufighter, and the Re.2005 took part in the aerial operations (albeit little more than 50 Re.2005’s were built).
• Volcanos like Mt Etna (3,357m as of 2022), Vulcano (501m) and Stromboli (924m) would be on the map, which would be awesome! Stromboli has been erupting nonstop since 1934, so the developers would have to model it erupting.

Axis Planes

• Macchi 202 series VII or XII 
• Macchi 205 series I or III
• Re.2002
• Re.2005
• SM.82

 

Allies Planes

• Bristol Beaufighter Mk.VI
• Hurricane Mk.IV
• P-40F
• A-36A Mustang
• Spitfire Mk Vc or 

 

AI Planes

• B-25 H
• Bristol Beaufort Mk.I or II
• CANT Z.506
• CANT Z.1007
• Martin Baltimore Mk.IIIa
• SM.79
• Swordfish Mk.II
• Vickers Wellington Mk.X

Edited August 17, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[BMA_FlyingShark]

33 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Stromboli has been erupting nonstop since 1934, so the developers would have to model it erupting.

That wouldn't be too hard, some smoke risin' up from the crater, wouldn't need to be interactive or so (although landing with a parachute in it should definitely kill the pilot).

 

Have a nice day.

 

[ITAF_Rani]

1 hour ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Why Battle of Sicily should be done.

• It’s a popular “I want them to go there.”
• People have longed for more Italian planes.
• In-fact, since they are running out of German planes to do, doing Italy/Sicily brings in more aircraft options.
• Major campaign during WWII. Was the first Allied invasion of Axis occupied Europe.
• Numbers of aircraft on either side would be more than enough to offer battle.
• British aircraft carrier units were involved in the amphibious invasion.
• Lots of other war ships were present too.
• Awesome aircraft like the Fairey Swordfish, Bristol Beaufort and Beaufighter, and the Re.2005 took part in the aerial operations (albeit little more than 50 Re.2005’s were built).
• Volcanos like Mt Etna (3,357m as of 2022), Vulcano (501m) and Stromboli (924m) would be on the map, which would be awesome! Stromboli has been erupting nonstop since 1934, so the developers would have to model it erupting.

Normandy will be released soon ...so we have to wait maybe December to Know same info about next DLC, as many time told only Devs have the future developing plane...

ITALY could be a great choice if Pacific will not be next...

?

[Jackfraser24]

‘Italy and Sicily didn’t agree, so Italy kicked Sicily into the sea.’ (Rhymes only in English)

[Hoss]

CBI......

 

[ST_Catchov]

1 hour ago, Jackfraser24 said:

‘Italy and Sicily didn’t agree, so Italy kicked Sicily into the sea.’ (Rhymes only in English)

 

So if Malta should falter into the water and Italy kicks Sicily into the sea it can only be FC three for me. [does not rhyme in German]

 

"Sollte Malta also ins Wasser fallen und Italien Sizilien ins Meer kicken, kann es für mich nur FC drei sein."

[=RS=Stix_09]

Whatever they do it will build on what they currently have already made.

It's not only planes , and map that need building , but game assets as we are seeing in BON and every other expansion to date.

I also think any plans Team Fusion have for Il-2 COD's next expansion (if they have any) will influence what they do next.

 

I don't think it will be the pacific , it's too much of a leap to build required assets for that, and they have already detailed they need to also have good source material to base the development on, and pacific would be a lot of work and quite tricky to do (it requires a lot of naval assets for example).
Just doing the carriers alone would be a lot of work, but making those assests (and the functionality) could be part of the next expansion.

Also not sure how balanced it would be to make that theatre if you want it to be historic.

 

 

 

Quote

Ark Royal operated in some of the most active naval theatres of the Second World War. She was involved in the first aerial U-boat kills of the war, operations off Norway, the search for the German battleship Bismarck, and the Malta Convoys. Ark Royal survived several near misses and gained a reputation as a 'lucky ship'. She was torpedoed on 13 November 1941 by the German submarine U-81 and sank the following day.

 

Now stuff like this could be next, I would love that.... (there are plenty of options not pacific they could do with these type of assets).
BUT performance impact of current game engine could be the limit here...

Edited August 17, 2022 by =RS=Stix_09
picture added

[Jackfraser24]

45 minutes ago, =RS=Stix_09 said:

Whatever they do it will build on what they currently have already made.

It's not only planes , and map that need building , but game assets as we are seeing in BON and every other expansion to date.

I also think any plans Team Fusion have for Il-2 COD's next expansion (if they have any) will influence what they do next.

 

I don't think it will be the pacific , it's too much of a leap to build required assets for that, and they have already detailed they need to also have good source material to base the development on, and pacific would be a lot of work and quite tricky to do (it requires a lot of naval assets for example).
Just doing the carriers alone would be a lot of work, but making those assests (and the functionality) could be part of the next expansion.

Also not sure how balanced it would be to make that theatre if you want it to be historic.

 

 

 

 

Now stuff like this could be next, I would love that.... (there are plenty of options not pacific they could do with these type of assets).
BUT peformance impact withing game engine could be the limit here...

Don’t take my posts too seriously. I’m not urging them to be done. I’m just listing good reasons why it should be done sometime down the track between 2022-2030 something.

[=RS=Stix_09]

1 minute ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Don’t take my posts too seriously. I’m not urging them to be done. I’m just listing good reasons why it should be done sometime down the track between 2022-2030 something.

 

Its a valid question , everyone would love to know, whats next...

Maybe norway?

[Stonehouse]

It's possible that A36s were in Tunisia, just extremely small numbers - so still probably may not be worth including in a Tunisian GB module. Hoping the pdf linked below can be opened. Seems like the 154th Observation Squadron had the first A36s in the Med but not many. They flew out of Thelepte Airfield, Tunisia from 11 Mar 1943 and seem to have received their F6-A's (recon A36) April 2nd. The unit only seems to have hung onto them for about a month or two although they still had one in May 1943 it seems.

The History of the 154th.pdf (15thaf.org)

 

Edited August 17, 2022 by Stonehouse

[Jackfraser24]

32 minutes ago, =RS=Stix_09 said:

 

Its a valid question , everyone would love to know, whats next...

Maybe norway?

Beautiful country. Fjords.

[76IAP-Black]

The next Battle, could be around Africa or Italy, i would prefer the Pacific for 100% but if you guys take a look at the planes like the Hurricane (mod. Dust Filter), we have an ilatian plane already.

And check out all the african style skins on all the german planes, and some desert skins on the allied ones. 

hope i am on a very wrong way, but that indicates the next theater is somewhere in south europe and northern african coast. 

Lets hope it will be somewhere in the pacific

[Harlequin]

I'm reallyracki g my brains trying to figure out what the Devs will actually choose.   Im thinking from a commercial pov first and foremost.  Bodenplatte and Normandy sit nicely alongside each other in terms of aircraft and other assets used.  I think the planes/theatre in these modules also brought in a lot more sales as they were more familiar to many. I think the only planeset and theatre that could bring in more sales would be the Pacific.  So in some sense the low hanging fruit of the western theatre has already been picked.

 

The question is how safe do they play it now?

I.e a battle of Berlin doesn't require anything more technical than what we have already.   I would expect more variants of current planes and a few new ones but nothing as exciting as that first p51, p47, mosquito, me262 etc.

And I think this might just be the problem for Italy.....will enough people go for an Italian planeset? Especially if they took risks like adding a British carrier for example?

 

And the million dollar question is will they bet the farm on the Pacific? I really don't think they would take on the risk to the franchise that trying to do it would entail.  I mean if they get it right, the sales would be there for them I think, but if they have too many problems with carriers, AAA, ships, torpedo's, carrier landings, lack of info.........well it could turn into a bit of a buggy mess.

 

My gut feeling is that they will do some sort of med scenario, but try to stick to U.S, RAF and German aircraft, with a couple of Italians thrown in.  There won't be a carrier, nor lots of extra ships or torpedo bombers etc.  A very much play it safe type release.  

Not overly optimistic, but I think the Devs have a plan for lots of incremental improvements as things keep going, rather than big big changes with the next release.

 

Somebody convince me it's going to be carriers in the Pacific instead!!! Lol :)

[blue_max]

I would love a med module. But hopefully with a relatively small map so they can release it in a year. If we have to wait 2+ years again for the next map I'm not going to be able to hold my attention.

[CountZero]

1 hour ago, blue_max said:

I would love a med module. But hopefully with a relatively small map so they can release it in a year. If we have to wait 2+ years again for the next map I'm not going to be able to hold my attention.

map in a year is higly unlikely, even if its another channel map just set for 1943, new airplanes are always priority as they make big news.

 

 

1 hour ago, cosg_Paul said:

I'm reallyracki g my brains trying to figure out what the Devs will actually choose.   Im thinking from a commercial pov first and foremost.  Bodenplatte and Normandy sit nicely alongside each other in terms of aircraft and other assets used.  I think the planes/theatre in these modules also brought in a lot more sales as they were more familiar to many. I think the only planeset and theatre that could bring in more sales would be the Pacific.  So in some sense the low hanging fruit of the western theatre has already been picked.

 

The question is how safe do they play it now?

I.e a battle of Berlin doesn't require anything more technical than what we have already.   I would expect more variants of current planes and a few new ones but nothing as exciting as that first p51, p47, mosquito, me262 etc.

And I think this might just be the problem for Italy.....will enough people go for an Italian planeset? Especially if they took risks like adding a British carrier for example?

 

And the million dollar question is will they bet the farm on the Pacific? I really don't think they would take on the risk to the franchise that trying to do it would entail.  I mean if they get it right, the sales would be there for them I think, but if they have too many problems with carriers, AAA, ships, torpedo's, carrier landings, lack of info.........well it could turn into a bit of a buggy mess.

 

My gut feeling is that they will do some sort of med scenario, but try to stick to U.S, RAF and German aircraft, with a couple of Italians thrown in.  There won't be a carrier, nor lots of extra ships or torpedo bombers etc.  A very much play it safe type release.  

Not overly optimistic, but I think the Devs have a plan for lots of incremental improvements as things keep going, rather than big big changes with the next release.

 

Somebody convince me it's going to be carriers in the Pacific instead!!! Lol

 

Its chanel 1943, no pto, no med, no east front... more 109+190 and spitfires, map just need small adjustments and you can add B-25 and B-26 but human controled.