Great Battles Future

[Jackfraser24]

9 hours ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Sorry guys....it' s Italy time

 

Yeah baby!!!

To be honest, Italy and Sicily is where I really want them to go next.

[Trog1odyte]

Why not the North Sea, with maps of Denmark, parts of GB and Norway.

The was a lot going on there from 1940 to 45. Submarines and naval battles of all kinds, carriers, sea plane tenders, arctic convoys, mining, paradrops, commando raids....

All kinds of new airplanes possible: most UK, US (P-36, F4F, F6F, F4U, TBF, PBY in British & Norwegian service), German (Ju 188, He 115, BV 138, Do 18, Fw 200).

 

Edited October 7, 2022 by Trog1odyte

[Docholiday]

You are absolutely right man !!

 

 

And the best is: these were the native huntinggrounds vor Beaufighters in the CC strike wings during nearly the whole war    ???

 

Perhaps Torpedoes, better damage models  over and UNDER the Waterline (perhaps submarines too) and naval warfare are the new thing they will try to bring to the sim community !   :DREAMING:-)

 

And ..     they do not need to build too crowdy citys !

 

Cheers

 

Doc

Edited October 7, 2022 by Docholiday

[CountZero]

Yes they would just have to build 1000km+ map and carriers, this is exactly what next dlc needs

[Trog1odyte]

35 minutes ago, CountZero said:

Yes they would just have to build 1000km+ map and carriers, this is exactly what next dlc needs

Most planes hadn't a 2 000 km endurance. 

[Bonnot]

Some parts of Kuban Map gave very convincing Norway on Videos posted a year ago ( ? )....and Ocean is ready to use, with somespecial arctic weather features !

All planes listed are interesting but I wonder if F4U  had gone so North ?

The Mosquitoe's Coastal Command were often required there for Recco and attacks in Fjord, probably very spectacular !

 

[Trog1odyte]

18 minutes ago, Bonnot said:

All planes listed are interesting but I wonder if F4U  had gone so North ?

 

British F4Us operated from the HMS Furious and HMS Formidable against the Tirpitz in 1944. No German fighters were encountered.

Edited October 7, 2022 by Trog1odyte

[Jackfraser24]

9 hours ago, Trog1odyte said:

Why not the North Sea, with maps of Denmark, parts of GB and Norway.

The was a lot going on there from 1940 to 45. Submarines and naval battles of all kinds, carriers, sea plane tenders, arctic convoys, mining, paradrops, commando raids....

All kinds of new airplanes possible: most UK, US (P-36, F4F, F6F, F4U, TBF, PBY in British & Norwegian service), German (Ju 188, He 115, BV 138, Do 18, Fw 200).

 

Never thought about that. I'd love to see planes like the Condor and Southerland and Naval B-24s

[Guest deleted@83466]

8 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Never thought about that. I'd love to see planes like the Condor and Southerland and Naval B-24s

Maybe AI, but I don’t think we’re going to see flyable heavies, Jack, because the recent interview indicates these kinds of aircraft are a bridge too far.

[Jackfraser24]

1 hour ago, SeaSerpent said:

Maybe AI, but I don’t think we’re going to see flyable heavies, Jack, because the recent interview indicates these kinds of aircraft are a bridge too far.

That’s a good movie.

[Guest deleted@83466]

It was actually just an American term, Jack, I wasn’t making a pun.

[Jackfraser24]

12 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

It was actually just an American term, Jack, I wasn’t making a pun.

Sorry

1 minute ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Sorry

Being a New Zealander I didn’t know

[Guest deleted@83466]

Do you eat Vegemite Sandwhiches?

[Guest deleted@83466]

Plank, is that you out there?  Because I sensed your foul presence….

[Jackfraser24]

2 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

Do you eat Vegemite Sandwhiches?

No. That’s Australia. We have Marmite. Though they look almost the same, almost taste the same and rhyme, there is a difference in looks and taste. Vegemite is black, salty and bitter, Marmite is dark brown and just salty.

 

We have a strong (yet friendly) rivalry with Australia, mostly through rugby and cricket. Some say we are the escaped convicts that were sent to Ozzie (which is not true). But during both wars we fought under one banner, the ANZAC’s - Australian & New Zealand Army Corps. We also celebrate Anzacs day on April 15 every year.

Edited October 8, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[Guest deleted@83466]

Oh, man, well played, well played.

[Jackfraser24]

7 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

Oh, man, well played, well played.

During WW2 New Zealand made a tank called the Bob Semple. It was basically a tractor covered in makeshift corrugated iron armour with a small cannon attached into it. It would have stood no chance against a potential Japanese invasion. We have a population of about 5 million as of 2022, so imagine how small it would have been then. The North Island is smaller than Java, in Indonesia, but the South Island is bigger. Java has a population of 145 million alone! The South Islands population is nearly at 1.2 million.

[Guest deleted@83466]

You do realize, this will be Götterdämmerung for the forum, don’t you?

 

Didn’t Loki have to have a Serpent drip venom in his eye, in the end?

Edited October 8, 2022 by SeaSerpent

[Jackfraser24]

1 minute ago, Jackfraser24 said:

During WW2 New Zealand made a tank called the Bob Semple. It was basically a tractor covered in makeshift corrugated iron armour with a small cannon attached into it. It would have stood no chance against a potential Japanese invasion. We have a population of about 5 million as of 2022, so imagine how small it would have been then. The North Island is smaller than Java, in Indonesia, but the South Island is bigger. Java has a population of 145 million alone! The South Islands population is nearly at 1.2 million.

We would be quite hard to invade now though. There are more of us then there were during WW2, and New Zealand is mostly covered in mountains and rugged hill country, so we’d be hard to shoot at from below. 
 

La Resistance lives on!

1 minute ago, SeaSerpent said:

You do realize, this will be Götterdämmerung for the forum, don’t you?

Ok I’ll stop

[Guest deleted@83466]

Book ‘em, Danno

[Jackfraser24]

19 hours ago, Trog1odyte said:

Why not the North Sea, with maps of Denmark, parts of GB and Norway.

The was a lot going on there from 1940 to 45. Submarines and naval battles of all kinds, carriers, sea plane tenders, arctic convoys, mining, paradrops, commando raids....

All kinds of new airplanes possible: most UK, US (P-36, F4F, F6F, F4U, TBF, PBY in British & Norwegian service), German (Ju 188, He 115, BV 138, Do 18, Fw 200).

 

I’ve already made a list

 

Germans

• Arado 196
• Bf-109 E-4
• Fw-200 C-3
• He-115
• Ju-88 A-17

Allies

• Fairey Swordfish
• Fairey Albacore 
• Fairey Baracuda
• Sea Hurricane
• Seafire 

[DD_Arthur]

17 hours ago, Trog1odyte said:

British F4Us operated from the HMS Furious and HMS Formidable against the Tirpitz in 1944. No German fighters were encountered.

Er…no. These were major strikes by the Fleet Air Arm. There was combat between FAA Hellcats and the LW.

[Trog1odyte]

1 hour ago, DD_Arthur said:

Er…no. These were major strikes by the Fleet Air Arm. There was combat between FAA Hellcats and the LW.

I was talking about F4Us.

[Alexmarine]

4 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I’ve already made a list

 

We would have been surprised if you didn't 

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I’ve already made a list

 

Germans

• Arado 196
• Bf-109 E-4
• Fw-200 C-3
• He-115
• Ju-88 A-17

Allies

• Fairey Swordfish
• Fairey Albacore 
• Fairey Baracuda
• Sea Hurricane
• Seafire 

 

Seriously? That's the sort of list you make if you don't want your project to succeed. Your three fighters are barely different from the versions already in the game, and then we have a bunch of maritime patrol planes that spent most of their time flying around looking at vast, empty stretches of ocean. 

Edited October 8, 2022 by LukeFF

[Bonnot]

3 hours ago, Trog1odyte said:

I was talking about F4Us

Thanks, this is a really pedagogic debate : until then  I thought the Corsair was restricted to warm waters, palm tree beaches with gorgeous swimsuit nurses and Ukulele....Imagine Pappy Black Sheeps in Anoraks and iced planes !

ps : Arados make a nice addition ...to my knowledge we never had any floatplane since RoF ?

[Jackfraser24]

4 hours ago, Alexmarine said:

 

We would have been surprised if you didn't 

Well I do gotta say. Its my field of expertise.

[Jackfraser24]

IL-2 War of Wrath

 

Forces of Morgoth

• Fire Drakes
• Cold Drakes
• Vampires (essentially just giant bats)
• Fell Beasts
• Balrogs

Host of the Valar

• Great Eagles
• The Vingilot 
• Can’t think of anything else

Edited October 11, 2022 by Jackfraser24

[Jackfraser24]

I think a Battle of Berlin or Sicily is ruled out when Shamrockonfive mentioned on Stormbirds that where they are going to go next is an area where there is no major cities, still have piston aircraft, and be historically based, while testing the limits of their latest game building technology. But carriers aren’t an option for the to do right now. My best guesses would be 

• Papua New Guinea
• A section of the Battle of the Atlantic
• Korea 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Good points all, indeed.

 

 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

14 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I think a Battle of Berlin or Sicily is ruled out when Shamrockonfive mentioned on Stormbirds that where they are going to go next is an area where there is no major cities

What major cities are there in Sicily, exactly? The biggest city of the Rheinland map is Brussels, with a population (at the time) of around 1 million. There's nothing even close to that in southern Italy.

 

14 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

• Papua New Guinea The devs are not doing a Pacific module.
• A section of the Battle of the Atlantic Very little air-to-air combat, plus you'd need carriers to do this properly.
• Korea You'd need jets to do this properly.

 

[ITAF_Rani]

15 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

I think a Battle of Berlin or Sicily is ruled out when Shamrockonfive mentioned on Stormbirds that where they are going to go next is an area where there is no major cities, still have piston aircraft, and be historically based, while testing the limits of their latest game building technology. But carriers aren’t an option for the to do right now. My best guesses would be 

• Papua New Guinea
• A section of the Battle of the Atlantic
• Korea 

At that time the major cities in Sicily were Palermo and Catania, but spaking about thier size during40 years they were really small...

 

Example here Catania size  during 1943

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2022 by ITAF_Rani

[ITAF_Rani]

And here Palermo during 1943

 

[CountZero]

Yes towns on Sicily or Malta are smaller then some towns we have on BoN map, i think when they say urban heavy they probably think on Paris, London, Berlin, Moscow, Rome, Milano and so on... size of citys.

Edited October 12, 2022 by CountZero

[ITAF_Rani]

Also Rome was not too big.

 

If sameome is interested to Italian campaign I found this site full of data and maps..

 

https://custermen.com/ItalyWW2/History.htm

 

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2022 by ITAF_Rani

[Jackfraser24]

6 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

What major cities are there in Sicily, exactly? The biggest city of the Rheinland map is Brussels, with a population (at the time) of around 1 million. There's nothing even close to that in southern Italy.

 

 

Well I guess we’d just have to see. From what you’ve pointed out, I would like to say Tunisia but I know they wouldn’t go there.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

1 hour ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Also Rome was not too big.

Hmm, well, indeed, if I look up its historical population, it seems to have been only a little above 1M. Would probably bring it into the achievable range, population wise. Although there's probably too many landmarks to ever get in in-game. There'd be people complaining if there wasn't a Colosseum, a Vatican, a Forum, a Castel Sant'Angelo....

 

My money is still on Sicily. I won't rule out a late Eastern Front module, but they did say that it woud bring something new to the series, and although a La-7, Yak-3 and Eastern Germany map would technically be "something new", I think it's a stretch to call it such.

 

(Also, the Mediterranean is where I hope the series goes, if the Pacific is out of the question (which it is, as has already been revealed))

[Jackfraser24]

11 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Hmm, well, indeed, if I look up its historical population, it seems to have been only a little above 1M. Would probably bring it into the achievable range, population wise. Although there's probably too many landmarks to ever get in in-game. There'd be people complaining if there wasn't a Colosseum, a Vatican, a Forum, a Castel Sant'Angelo....

 

My money is still on Sicily. I won't rule out a late Eastern Front module, but they did say that it woud bring something new to the series, and although a La-7, Yak-3 and Eastern Germany map would technically be "something new", I think it's a stretch to call it such.

 

(Also, the Mediterranean is where I hope the series goes, if the Pacific is out of the question (which it is, as has already been revealed))

Has the Pacific been ruled out for good?

[Chief_Mouser]

11 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Hmm, well, indeed, if I look up its historical population, it seems to have been only a little above 1M. Would probably bring it into the achievable range, population wise. Although there's probably too many landmarks to ever get in in-game. There'd be people complaining if there wasn't a Colosseum, a Vatican, a Forum, a Castel Sant'Angelo....

 

My money is still on Sicily. I won't rule out a late Eastern Front module, but they did say that it woud bring something new to the series, and although a La-7, Yak-3 and Eastern Germany map would technically be "something new", I think it's a stretch to call it such.

 

(Also, the Mediterranean is where I hope the series goes, if the Pacific is out of the question (which it is, as has already been revealed))

 

Don't need Rome, it was an open city. General Mark Clark sacrificed a lot of his troops just so he could have the glory of 'capturing' it. Only to be outdone by a couple of Royal Engineers who were sat down drinking wine at a pavement cafe when he arrived. ?

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, 216th_Cat said:

 

Don't need Rome, it was an open city. General Mark Clark sacrificed a lot of his troops just so he could have the glory of 'capturing' it. Only to be outdone by a couple of Royal Engineers who were sat down drinking wine at a pavement cafe when he arrived. ?

 

That's a major distortion of what actually happened.