1CGS LukeFF Posted October 18, 2024 1CGS Posted October 18, 2024 Dev Blog #13 for Korea. IL-2 Series is now available here: https://il2-korea.com/news/dd_13 12
tattywelshie Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 She looks lovely, so the two different versions, basically, am i guessing that say, if you are escorting a mass formation of B29, those bombers will use the simple system? But if you are on the attacking side, they will use the more complex system so the damage model is as realistic as possible?
migmadmarine Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 8 minutes ago, tattywelshie said: She looks lovely, so the two different versions, basically, am i guessing that say, if you are escorting a mass formation of B29, those bombers will use the simple system? But if you are on the attacking side, they will use the more complex system so the damage model is as realistic as possible? It would need to be the simplified version in the mass formation for every player regardless of if they are frendly or Not, as the aircraft still takes processing power.
szelljr Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 I have just one question , can we make skins for the B-29 ?? There will be template for PS , Gimp ?? Or we need some "new" 3D program for that ? 2
352ndOscar Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 Information: Units https://nuclearcompanion.com/data/boeing-b-29-superfortress-units-of-the-korean-war-1950-1953/ Chronology https://nuclearcompanion.com/data/b-29-superfortress-chronology-korean-war/ 1
AEthelraedUnraed Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 1 hour ago, tattywelshie said: She looks lovely, so the two different versions, basically, am i guessing that say, if you are escorting a mass formation of B29, those bombers will use the simple system? But if you are on the attacking side, they will use the more complex system so the damage model is as realistic as possible? As migmadmarine says, if there are a lot of bombers it needs to use the simple system regardless. There's no telling which of the, let's say, 100 bombers the player is going to attack. Which leads to the obvious question of why they'd make a fully-detailed system in the first place. The one thing I can think of is bombers in your own formation. Which would only make sense if - and this is pure hypothesising - they plan to make a playable version at some point, or at least want to keep their options open.
BraveSirRobin Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 20 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: Which leads to the obvious question of why they'd make a fully-detailed system in the first place. The one thing I can think of is bombers in your own formation. Which would only make sense if - and this is pure hypothesising - they plan to make a playable version at some point, or at least want to keep their options open. It could be for bombers that are damaged and can no longer keep up with the formation.
LuftManu Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 The B-29 is looking really, really good! It's going to shine! 😎 I hope it becomes flyable. I hope so! When I've learnt that Carriers might be able to be done and then that they are working on it was a cool suprise. Take the time needed for the bomber and I am sure we will gladly pay, specially now that we can have bigger formations. A strategic bomber career would be so cool. Kind regards!
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 18, 2024 Author 1CGS Posted October 18, 2024 1 hour ago, AEthelraedUnraed said: Which leads to the obvious question of why they'd make a fully-detailed system in the first place. The one thing I can think of is bombers in your own formation. Which would only make sense if - and this is pure hypothesising - they plan to make a playable version at some point, or at least want to keep their options open. As the blog entry says, it's also for smaller bomber formations - many times in Korea you will find entries where only a handful of B-29s - no more than a dozen - were sent out on raids. And yes, a flyable B-29 is still possible but yet to be determined. 4 5
actionhank1786 Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 2 hours ago, szelljr said: I have just one question , can we make skins for the B-29 ?? There will be template for PS , Gimp ?? Or we need some "new" 3D program for that ? I would have to imagine it's textured the same way most of the other planes are. That said, if we ever get the ability to create skins using something like Substance Painter, I will be thrilled.
CzechTexan Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 "The basic version with a full flight and damage model, implemented at the level of all other aircraft in the game, will be used for scenarios where bombers are involved in a limited number..." About how many is the "limited" number? Like, what is the maximum if they are escorted by a flight or two flights of Sabers? This detailed B-29 is awesome! Is there anything else like it in flight sims? I remember the first time I saw FIFI about 25 years ago in Arkansas. I was able to walk around and underneath it. It's huge! The size of the tires alone are impressive. Great job getting this plane into the sim. 1
AEthelraedUnraed Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 1 hour ago, BraveSirRobin said: It could be for bombers that are damaged and can no longer keep up with the formation. They speak about "two versions" of the bomber, basic and simplified (lol, those sound somewhat synonymous ), rather than two versions of the flight model. So if I interpret this correctly, it means that which FM is used is determined beforehand, in the mission file. Which in turn means that it's not possible to switch between the two FMs while the mission is running. 49 minutes ago, LukeFF said: As the blog entry says, it's also for smaller bomber formations - many times in Korea you will find entries where only a handful of B-29s - no more than a dozen - were sent out on raids. Assuming the AI will be similarly CPU-heavy as the current IL2, a dozen is still a number that's rather prohibiting on long flights that require some sort of time acceleration. If the B-29s still use the full FM in formations of a dozen aircraft; does this mean that there are additional performance improvements besides the simplified FM? And yes, the B-29 screenshots look absolutely gorgeous! My phone wallpaper now features a beautiful Wright Cyclone
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 18, 2024 Author 1CGS Posted October 18, 2024 We'll cover the subject of AI and bomber formations more in the future, don't worry. 🙂 2 1
MajorMagee Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 2 hours ago, actionhank1786 said: I would have to imagine it's textured the same way most of the other planes are. That said, if we ever get the ability to create skins using something like Substance Painter, I will be thrilled. Yes, there could be some very interesting skins for Korea. 2
Avimimus Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 If they make any bomber flyable - I kind-of hope it is an A-26/B-26! I've wanted to fly one in a sim since I was a kid! That said - the art is fantastic here. It is quite a plane! Btw. Quick question for those who are more of a fan than I am - which variants carried the 20mm cannon in the rear gunner position? It isn't present here or in the Il-2 1946 model - but I always thought it would be interesting to fight against that heavier tail sting!
PhilthySpud Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 Contrails are very well done. I hope they’re a bit more persistent in the new game, though of course IRL that depends on the local atmospheric conditions.
rocho Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 10 hours ago, PhilthySpud said: Contrails are very well done. I hope they’re a bit more persistent in the new game, though of course IRL that depends on the local atmospheric conditions. In my opinion, contrails are the worst thing in this video and I hope they are placeholders. Other than that, the plane looks fantastic. 3
Mysticpuma Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 33 minutes ago, rocho said: In my opinion, contrails are the worst thing in this video and I hope they are placeholders. Other than that, the plane looks fantastic. Completely agree. They need to move on from the cartoony IL2:Box particle effects and start creating new ones for the future. The smoke, fire, vapour and explosion effects of BoX no longer stand the test of time and look dated in comparison to the new engine here. 3
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Mysticpuma said: Completely agree. They need to move on from the cartoony IL2:Box particle effects and start creating new ones for the future. The smoke, fire, vapour and explosion effects of BoX no longer stand the test of time and look dated in comparison to the new engine here. Yes new SFX are a must. I remember when they were looking for artists of that kind, I hope they found one. There are great software which effects could be made but how about integration in custom engine, it is even possible? 1
352ndOscar Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 Check loadouts for these B-29; they should include flares, incendiary and leaflets. 1
Avimimus Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 1 hour ago, 352ndOscar said: Check loadouts for these B-29; they should include flares, incendiary and leaflets. Razon bombs too?
migmadmarine Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 Ey Luke, since I've asked about expansion of the decal system to cover serial numbers in the past, what is the story with the ghost serials on the bombers in some of those screenies? I see at least two serials in these shots, with 303725 appearing both painted and ghost ones. These generated, or different individual skins, or what? 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 20, 2024 Author 1CGS Posted October 20, 2024 The plan is have full generated serial numbers on B-29s in all the relevant locations.
Blitzen Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 The B-29 looks good but if they can “build “ this,why not a flyable B-25 or B-26 ?For that matter a B-17 or even a B-24? I’m sure anyone of those would be a ot more welcome and perhaps used/flown than a B-29 over Korea….just sayin’. 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 20, 2024 Author 1CGS Posted October 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Blitzen said: The B-29 looks good but if they can “build “ this,why not a flyable B-25 or B-26 ?For that matter a B-17 or even a B-24? I’m sure anyone of those would be a ot more welcome and perhaps used/flown than a B-29 over Korea….just sayin’. Time and money - one bomber, even just a twin, takes a lot more time to make than a fighter.
migmadmarine Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 1 hour ago, LukeFF said: The plan is have full generated serial numbers on B-29s in all the relevant locations. Cool, great to see. Nice also to see the variations of none, removed and painted seeming to be available.
Anonymousgamer Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 (edited) I hope that this means four engine bombers will someday be introduced in IL2: Great Battles Edited October 21, 2024 by Anonymousgamer
BlitzPig_EL Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 (edited) Not a chance. Great Battles is in it's last days, open your eyes and read the tea leaves. After FC 4 and Karelia and Odessa, it's game over. The team is moving on to the new engine and Korea and the Pacific. You may think it sucks, but it's time to embrace the suck and look forward to the new game. Further development of the old engine and it's titles is a dead end now. Forward Into the past!!! Edited October 21, 2024 by BlitzPig_EL 1
354thFG_Leifr Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 On 10/19/2024 at 7:08 PM, 352ndOscar said: Check loadouts for these B-29; they should include flares, incendiary and leaflets. Yeah, but there are plenty of loadout options missing for aircraft in BoX and they're simply not present. I wouldn't expect something to be there just because they were historically carried; the incendiary component never made it to API belts in BoX, for example.
II./JG27_Rich Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 Sounds good. Work on the chainsaw 109 external sound
Avimimus Posted October 23, 2024 Posted October 23, 2024 On 10/21/2024 at 7:06 PM, 356thFS_Leifr said: Yeah, but there are plenty of loadout options missing for aircraft in BoX and they're simply not present. I wouldn't expect something to be there just because they were historically carried; the incendiary component never made it to API belts in BoX, for example. Yes, although that was because of the difficulties modelling incendiary effects realistically - which will be done in Korea (multiple types of different incendiary ammunition will be included). I think it is good for people to ask for additional things which were historically used - sure we can't necessarily expect things like leaflet bombs - but it makes a lot of sense to ask.
354thFG_Leifr Posted October 23, 2024 Posted October 23, 2024 1 hour ago, Avimimus said: Yes, although that was because of the difficulties modelling incendiary effects realistically - which will be done in Korea (multiple types of different incendiary ammunition will be included). I think it is good for people to ask for additional things which were historically used - sure we can't necessarily expect things like leaflet bombs - but it makes a lot of sense to ask. Luke was asked this a couple of weeks back in Discord and his response that it looks likely, but not confirmed. What do you know that we don't? I'm sure it will though, since 1C are starting from the base again and working back up - right? 😁
Avimimus Posted October 23, 2024 Posted October 23, 2024 20 minutes ago, 356thFS_Leifr said: Luke was asked this a couple of weeks back in Discord and his response that it looks likely, but not confirmed. What do you know that we don't? Asked what?
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 23, 2024 Author 1CGS Posted October 23, 2024 29 minutes ago, Avimimus said: Asked what? Incendiary ammo, and yes, the plan is to have it. 1
PhilthySpud Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 What about napalm? My reading suggests that this was a significant weapon employed by the UN air forces.
CzechTexan Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 20 minutes ago, PhilthySpud said: What about napalm? My reading suggests that this was a significant weapon employed by the UN air forces. Yes, the incendiary bombs / napalm also played a big role in its WW2 days during the bombing of Japan's cities.
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 24, 2024 Author 1CGS Posted October 24, 2024 2 hours ago, PhilthySpud said: What about napalm? My reading suggests that this was a significant weapon employed by the UN air forces. Yes, it's planned to have it. 1 1
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 2 hours ago, LukeFF said: Yes, it's planned to have it. Rockets napalm also or just bombs?
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