Question about MP team balance

[rolikiraly]

This might be a dumb question (but keep in mind that i don't have the game, i'm just watching some videos and checking this forum sometimes to know how it's going)

So, this game looks promising so far, i won't go into details but overall i like what i can see from videos etc.. However, i noticed something in a couple of multiplayer videos (which seemed to show a rather simple dogfight match): one side significantly outnumbers the other side (and you know which side is that  ).  I just want to know if there isn't any kind of team balance, so you can join a team who has already more players?

You know it's just one of those little things i might consider when i'm thinking about getting the game.

Thanks for your answers in advance!

And BTW good luck to the devs.    It's nice that somebody makes a game like this at all these days. (Sorry for those who don't like the word 'game' in this context)

Edited August 8, 2014 by rolikiraly

[Pringliano]

I usually choose the team with less elements on it. Even change quite often during an online MP session :-)

 

This way I get the chance to learn how to use both russian and german fighters / bombers :-)

 

I like them all, but my preferred is still the Yak-1

[Matt]

There actually is an auto balance feature currently active. You can't join the team that has more players than the other (maybe with a 1-2 player difference tolerance, not sure).

 

But those videos you mention might show very well the realistic effect of such an auto balance feature.

[DD_Arthur]

  I just want to know if there isn't any kind of team balance, so you can join a team who has already more players?

You know it's just one of those little things i might consider when i'm thinking about getting the game.

 

 

 

 

Worth remembering the multiplayer element we have at the moment is purely for testing and for the devs to work on their net code.  Multiplayer will be rather different after release when the community gets to run their own servers.   

[Livai]

Balance or not I like the challenge. I like to be hunted. To get this special feeling and to testing my skill against a outnumbered team. A outnumbered team say nothing about their skill. Outnumbered but they can still lose.

[Johnny_Red]

I usually choose the team with less elements on it. Even change quite often during an online MP session :-)

 

This way I get the chance to learn how to use both russian and german fighters / bombers :-)

 

I like them all, but my preferred is still the Yak-1

You sir are in the minority. I can't remember the last time I played as German. Every time I click on a server there is an imbalance in the German favor. I joined a server and there were 2 Germans no Russians. So I joined Russian. next thing I know there are 4 Germans and only me as Russian. So I told them to enjoy their game and left. MP right now is pointless. It reminds me of Warthunder, the rape train behind 1 aircraft all shooting to get the kill. Until the game is released and there are MP missions Co-op etc may as well play warthunder, they have a bigger plane set and at least some objectives, but the player mentality is pretty much the same.

[BeastyBaiter]

There is an auto balancer active atm, it has a +2 player tolerance atm I think. That means Germans can have 3 and Russians just 1. It can also mean Germans have 10 and Russians 8. However you have to keep in mind that players come and go. If it's 10 vs 8 and 3 Russians get frustrated and leave, then it's 10 v 5. The Germans won't be able to respawn in that case without balancing the teams, but they can drag it out to the end of the match if they fly right. If more Russians get frustrated in that scenario, it gets worse. I've seen 10 vs 2 very recently from that.

 

The above can be a very serious problem but as already said, MP is basically just a game performance test atm. The current MP doesn't have any objectives, though it does have some ground targets. Once the game is released and we have some proper MP missions, I think the situation will resolve itself. 10 guys flying 109's at 7km isn't going to win a match when a lone IL-2 at 20m can win it by blowing up some tanks. That in turn will force the Germans to fly lower, which in turn will ensure they die more often. End result is if the server is running the auto balancer (almost certainly a server side option), then the Germans might be more popular still but they can't linger with a huge numerical advantage forever.

 

In any case, if you're looking for a fleshed out MP experience, wait for release. This really is just a test atm. Once we have player run servers and the FMB, we'll start seeing some complex scenarios like in RoF. If you've never tried it, there are recon, factory, tank, airfield, AI plane and even artillery spotting objectives there. The same should be possible here given that it uses the same FMB adapted for use in BoS.

[Livai]

 

 

It reminds me of Warthunder, the rape train behind 1 aircraft all shooting to get the kill.

 

I call this Brute Force attack. I like it, because when I get behind that train I shot them all to pieces. Only what would avoid that is a restricted shared kills or both get a kill point who damage the plane and who shot down the same plane.

[hiro]

Yeah and the Russian a/c have to fly alot more carefully . . . I think once lend lease (future release) planes, then people will be filling in the red star side or once better objectives for the win like a prior poster was saying . . . 

 

Warthunder is hilarious, its fun to watch a train of planes chasing a single fighter and then the single figher leads them to that japanese deathstar bomber teamate with max gunners, and watch the fighters fly out of the sky. I've seen a entire team of sabres or mig-15s go against that deathstar and lose. That game is a wash. 

 

At BOS and the "other ww2 sim" focues on good FM and DM.