I was surprised to read that Africa is no longer exclusive to TFS and BoX can now go there.

[Mysticpuma]

I suppose it was on the table somewhere that there was a limit to how long BoX would not be able to head to Africa, but it appears that was only an agreement while Jason was involved with BoX.

Looking at Korea and it's new tech. with the suggestion that the Pacific is on the agenda, I wonder what Africa could look like in the new engine and how long it will be before BoX decide it's a viable proposition?

 

[Enceladus828]

Well, TFS has never made any plans to cover Tunisia so if the devs ever did Tunisia and a Battle of El Alamein Tank Crew there would be no overlap. However, if there was a 1CGS Siege of Tobruk then I would like to see very much all of the desert planes and warships from Desert Wings in it to make it worth doing. AFAIK are only limited to 10 planes per installment so while a 1CGS version may bring the SM.79 and MC 200, people would still be jumping between the two games to fly planes or do things that they cannot fly or do in the 1CGS version. Another point is that TF 7.0 (covering the aerial aspect of El Alamein) is to have flyable B-17F and B-24D and if the 1CGS version cannot include those then it’s probably not worth doing.

 

After the Pacific, I would very much love to see a Sicily installment followed by the March up Italy, such stunning terrain and an interesting theatre but criminally neglected in combat flight sims. From what we know, TFS after Malta is focused on NW Europe.

[Mysticpuma]

5 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

I would very much love to see a Sicily installment followed by the March up Italy, such stunning terrain and an interesting theatre but criminally neglected in combat flight sims. From what we know, TFS after Malta is focused on NW Europe.

Cannot agree with you more! The MTO would be fantastic to see in any sim but with the new tech. of BoX, it could be so.ething really special.

 

[DD_Arthur]

6 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

people would still be jumping between the two games to fly planes or do things that they cannot fly or do in the 1CGS version. 

 

That would cover about eight people at the moment...

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

Malta, El Alamein and then Sicily and Italy. Would be a perfect combo and more interesting than the endless versions of ETO. Pacific has appeal too, but covered by Combat Pilot. 

 

Nevertheless CloD offers fun even now and upcoming releases are a bonus.

[Aapje]

9 hours ago, LLv34_Flanker said:

Pacific has appeal too, but covered by Combat Pilot. 

 

This is like saying that Europe is covered by GB, even though many regions/conflicts in Europe have not been covered.

 

The Pacific is a pretty big place.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

What I meant was that ETO has been done to Hell and back over the years. TFS brings Dieppe, which is good and a change. MTO has never received much love except in mods, like UP in original IL-2. So I would rather see a full MTO/Italy experience for a change rather than yet another BoB/D-Day.

 

PTO was a huge as area but most of the battles were fought on a relatively small area. I doubt many would fly those 10h+ missions from Tinian/Saipan to Japan and back. Or early PTO missions by Japanese bombing targets far away. Even shorter distances are too much for many. There were many interesting battles and campaigns that would be nice to play.

[Aapje]

IL-2 doesn't really do big bombers anyway. And it would be nice if we ever get an option to fast-forward to the next engagement, for SP. That would enable some very long missions, where things like fuel management becomes critical (although apparently, drop tanks are impossible). And in general it would make the game more accessible.

 

 

 

 

[Buffo002]

As far as I know, TFS is governed by years gradually and does not skip, now it should be 1941 and 1942 and as far as I know Tunis, as someone here already mentioned at least the upcoming DLCs, Tunis was not there. Its operational year was from November 1942 to May 13, 1943.
Another part of North Africa was promised (expansion of this battlefield) and then Malta, Sicily, Italy ... of course this only applies to the Mediterranean, I do not count those planned by the TFS in Western Europe ... so I don't understand why anyone claims that Africa is not in the TFS included and Malta is part of the African battlefield, supplies for Rommel to Africa passed through and this has huge potential for the African campaign. Operation Torch isn't bad, but compared to these maps it only covers half a year of fighting in the entire war November 17, 1942 - May 13, 1943
The question is whether it makes sense for the developers to do it, the other maps that they already have or have published what they are planning have a much longer participation in battles and some even years. For example, North Africa often has a front line back and forth. On June 10, 1940, the Italians attacked Egypt. They advanced and captured Sidi el-Barrani about 95 km from the Libyan border with Egypt. Then the British counter-attacked and pushed the Italians to the territory of Libya. They advanced to about half of Libya to the town of El Agheila, then the situation was saved by the Afrikakorps when it launched a counterattack and a long African career began, when sometimes there were victories on both sides, but the Germans were initially more successful only in the second battle at Al Alamein in October 1942, when the British gradually they were pushing Rommel and the Germans back west as far as Tunis.

Edited September 30, 2024 by Buffo002

[jaguar]

I don't think they chose El Alamein to exploit the 1940-41 planeset as there wasn't much action in the area.

 

The campaign at El Alamein lasted for few months like that Tunisia with similari planeset, but the terrain is much simpler to model.

Edited October 10, 2024 by jaguar

[Buffo002]

The Tobruk map in CoD is from Derna in the west to Sidi Baranni about 90 km from the Egyptian border. And the map that TFS wants to add is not only a piece of Al Alamein, but Sidi Barrani after El Alamein, it is roughly the same size map as the map for Tobruk in CoD, if Alexandria will also be in the new map, it will be significantly larger, and the distance from Tunis (where the fights were only in one direction) here again the fights went back and forth so it's 2x use of the new map. But don't take it personally, I'm just saying this as my opinion. I would prefer another new map where the Afrikakorps was born (where the 2nd main African campaign began) against the advancing British via Sirte, Benghazi and Derna. And right here on this map, the British campaign against the Italians could continue, which they chased up to half of Libya, the British occupied all of Cyrenaica. And then Afrikakorps came into play.