Oil radiator 109 adjusting

[ACG_Wobbel]

Cant get oil radiator to be adjusted in the 109 series only the E7 ? The water radiator works on all for me .....

[BMA_FlyingShark]

If I'm not mistaken, the oil radiator on the 109's works only automatically as was the case with the real ones, except for the E7.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[Trooper117]

The only 109 with the manual oil radiator is the E-7... 

[ACG_Wobbel]

Ah ha thx Gents salute 🙂👍

[R33GZ]

6 hours ago, GA332 said:

Ah ha thx Gents salute 🙂👍

You can turn the radiator to manual control on the later models if you want to, but it only really helps if you have a major overheating issue, in which case your aircraft is probably already in dire trouble.

[ACG_Wobbel]

1 hour ago, R33GZ said:

You can turn the radiator to manual control on the later models if you want to, but it only really helps if you have a major overheating issue, in which case your aircraft is probably already in dire trouble.

Ok just off the sake of my curiosity wich modell? I tested it on 109F4,G2,4 nothing.  But on later modells you mean 109G6, K4 etc. ? 😁

Edited August 29, 2024 by GA332

[R33GZ]

2 hours ago, GA332 said:

I tested it on 109F4,G2,4

To be honest, I've never used it, the automatic mode does just fine. To my understanding, every model from the E7 onwards in GB has automatic radiators by default, but, they can be used manually by engaging the manual mode; an analogue switch that could be engaged in the cockpit. You will need to know the key setting to do this. But to he honest, I'm not sure that it will give you any advantage unless you are already in a losing situation 

Edited August 29, 2024 by R33GZ

[ACG_Wobbel]

33 minutes ago, R33GZ said:

To be honest, I've never used it, the automatic mode does just fine. To my understanding, every model from the E7 onwards in GB has automatic radiators by default, but, they can be used manually by engaging the manual mode; an analogue switch that could be engaged in the cockpit. You will need to know the key setting to do this. But to he honest, I'm not sure that it will give you any advantage unless you are already in a losing situation 

Ok thx 🙂

[Hanu]

2 hours ago, R33GZ said:

To be honest, I've never used it, the automatic mode does just fine. To my understanding, every model from the E7 onwards in GB has automatic radiators by default, but, they can be used manually by engaging the manual mode; an analogue switch that could be engaged in the cockpit. You will need to know the key setting to do this. But to he honest, I'm not sure that it will give you any advantage unless you are already in a losing situation 

Not on the air combat, sure, but opening then manually is a great air brake when you approach fast for quick landing for example.

Helmut Lipfert used radiators a lot for slowing down the plane and it works in IL-2 nicely.

[Ghost666]

 

Looks like all the E7 has manual radiator.

The F2 has automatic with the ability to go manually to full open.

All others are automatic with the ability to go manually and adjust.

 

 

[ACG_Wobbel]

Yes the 109E7 have manual on both oil and water radiator.  But from 109F2 and up its only automaticly on both water and oil , but you only can manually override and adjust water radiators noth the oil ? 

Edited August 29, 2024 by GA332

[[CPT]Crunch]

4 hours ago, Hanu said:

Not on the air combat, sure, but opening then manually is a great air brake when you approach fast for quick landing for example.

Helmut Lipfert used radiators a lot for slowing down the plane and it works in IL-2 nicely.

Yup, I use that method in many aircraft not only for landing but in attack runs from altitude as a dive brake for steep angles, you get the added bonus of a fresh cooled power plant on your escape run.  The old C-130A and B's we did the same thing on the oil system, open it a few minutes prior to decent in hot weather ops, you could buy time on the ground and do an engine running offload without having to shut down.

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, GA332 said:

Yes the 109E7 have manual on both oil and water radiator.  But from 109F2 and up its only automaticly on both water and oil , but you only can manually overside and adjust water radiators noth the oil ? 

 

Yes, with one exception: on the F-2, choosing manual water coolant mode opens the radiator shutters to 100% open, i.e., there is no other position to which they can be manually set.

[R33GZ]

On 8/30/2024 at 2:30 AM, [CPT]Crunch said:

attack runs from altitude as a dive brake for steep angles,

Wouldn't that over cool the engine to the point of damage? I guess I'm thinking maps that have cooler atmospheres.

 

C-130A/B, was that in SE Asia?

[Aapje]

 

[R33GZ]

2 hours ago, Aapje said:

 

Thanks Aapje, so it is 'kind of' modeled. I know I have blown p38 engines shortly after take off by not warming the engine with rads closed before takeoff. But in flight it seems it's not so much of an issue, unlike real life. I know on my dad's little Tecnam we have to tape over the radiator in winter, otherwise we can't get it up to a green running temperature - it has no shutters, just a little 4 stroke rotax 91 octane engine... kinda like a lawn mower 😁

[FeuerFliegen]

On 8/28/2024 at 11:40 PM, R33GZ said:

You can turn the radiator to manual control on the later models if you want to, but it only really helps if you have a major overheating issue, in which case your aircraft is probably already in dire trouble.

 

Both water and oil is automatic; water has the option to go manual in later models; oil has NO option to go manual in F and later models.

[LF_Mark_Krieger]

On 8/29/2024 at 6:05 PM, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, with one exception: on the F-2, choosing manual water coolant mode opens the radiator shutters to 100% open, i.e., there is no other position to which they can be manually set.

I thought in reality the F2 in manual was opened at about 60%. At least that was what some programmer said a few years ago. I looked for historical documentation but couldn't find anything so specific.

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, LF_Mark_Krieger said:

I thought in reality the F2 in manual was opened at about 60%. At least that was what some programmer said a few years ago. I looked for historical documentation but couldn't find anything so specific.

 

I think there are two F-2 manuals out there that give conflicting information, so perhaps it was changed at some point in production.