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[LukeFF]

On 8/29/2024 at 10:58 AM, PB0_Roll said:

Here's a mission

 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/1m5ekh9lf2bizagy5y663/Missions.zip?rlkey=ms8u1u19bw0k065let0nf2fe0&st=b5542zqz&dl=0

 

Issues:

 

1/RCAF typhoons taking off from a british airfield (B9 Lantheuil), but all static aircraft are US (P-51Ds and B-25s mostly)

 

2/Target is a railway junction on the US side. RCAF Typhoon squadrons were mostly engaged on british side, and at the date Caen battle was still raging. Target is also too far, mostly at this date missions were on the nearest front line are close behind it. Also, attacking a railway junction that is about to get captured by the US ground forces makes no sense imho. Typhoons did operate on the US side, but only on specific occasions (Mortain counter attack, Falaise pocket) and later.

 

3/My Typhoon suqadron is flying echelon right, escort is flying echelon right AFAIK, this was never used in operations.

If I'm wrong I'd like to know the source.

 

4/Escort is unseen after we cross its path, they report engaging at some point but not in sight.

 

That's about it. In earlier missions there were too many bridge attacks, and too far from take off, but it was a few months ago so it may have changed. I had one pretty far on the US side, one pretty far on the east, burt I didn't keep the missions so...

 

Most of what I know (or think I know) comes from pilot memoirs written in french and/or magazines, so that would be a pain to search and quote.

 

However, there's this , in english, that backs at least some of my points , I think :

 

https://www.project44.ca/intelblog/2021/5/25/revisiting-canadian-air-power-in-the-normandy-campaign

 

 

https://scholars.wlu.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2171&context=cmh

 

 

 

Now I know this is missions generation and not historical campaign, but applying some filters on targets may be possible ?

 

One of our mission designers looked into this but could not repeat the issue - in particular he needs a bridge mission where this happens. 

 

The escorts are attacking Fw 190s higher up and so fighting out of sight in this instance is not a bug. 

[PB0_Roll]

Thanks for having a look.

 

Which of the issues can he not replicate ?

 

Not n°4 since you mention it's a feature.

 

So, 1/,2/ or 3/ ?

 

Most likely 2/ but I'd like to be certain, thanks. And what specifical in 2/ ? A bridge on the wrong side or a bridge on the front line ? I never had a bridge on the frontline so far.

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, PB0_Roll said:

Thanks for having a look.

 

Which of the issues can he not replicate ?

 

Not n°4 since you mention it's a feature.

 

So, 1/,2/ or 3/ ?

 

Most likely 2/ but I'd like to be certain, thanks. And what specifical in 2/ ? A bridge on the wrong side or a bridge on the front line ? I never had a bridge on the frontline so far.

 

He could not reproduce the issue with the Typhoons colliding. 

[PB0_Roll]

Ah ok.

 

It happened once, I'll get back to you if it happens again.

[PB0_Roll]

Also, if flying on autopilot there are, imho, less chances it happens.

 

Did he fly manually ?

 

I tend to keep behind  flight lead, with some margin, intead of flying close echelon right like AI does.

Edited September 4, 2024 by PB0_Roll

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, PB0_Roll said:

Also, if flying on autopilot there are, imho, less chances it happens.

 

Did he fly manually ?

 

I tend to keep behind  flight lead, with some margin, intead of flying close echelon right like AI does.

 

No idea. Best to try it both ways and what sort of results you get. 

[PB0_Roll]

I don't have the courage to fly these long missions twice with only x8, I must confess.

 

There you go, bombing a bridge, two wingmen crashed, flying manually in safe way 100m behind flight lead.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/1m5ekh9lf2bizagy5y663/Missions.zip?rlkey=ms8u1u19bw0k065let0nf2fe0&st=okpod5nn&dl=0

[LukeFF]

On 9/7/2024 at 11:50 AM, PB0_Roll said:

I don't have the courage to fly these long missions twice with only x8, I must confess.

 

There you go, bombing a bridge, two wingmen crashed, flying manually in safe way 100m behind flight lead.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/1m5ekh9lf2bizagy5y663/Missions.zip?rlkey=ms8u1u19bw0k065let0nf2fe0&st=okpod5nn&dl=0

 

Alright,this is what one of our mission designers says:

 

"I flew the mission 2 ways: auto and manual. In both cases no planes crashed. But there is the problem of collision while diving. I need a track or a video of a similar situation as in the case of the cover crash. Then it will be possible to fix this bug. 

 

He also writes: "fly manually in a safe way 100m behind flight lead". What if he's seventh in line? If he flew between the leader and the 2nd wingman, a collision is most likely." 

[AtlasCloud24]

 

On 8/16/2024 at 11:14 AM, LukeFF said:

Discussion about CloD, WT, and DCS goes elsewhere, not here. 

Been attempting to understand the subject.

[PB0_Roll]

On 9/9/2024 at 5:08 PM, LukeFF said:

 

Alright,this is what one of our mission designers says:

 

"I flew the mission 2 ways: auto and manual. In both cases no planes crashed. But there is the problem of collision while diving. I need a track or a video of a similar situation as in the case of the cover crash. Then it will be possible to fix this bug. 

 

He also writes: "fly manually in a safe way 100m behind flight lead". What if he's seventh in line? If he flew between the leader and the 2nd wingman, a collision is most likely." 

 

I flew clear of every other aircraft, with much margin.

 

I don't remember how to record, will have a look for next occasion.

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, PB0_Roll said:

I flew clear of every other aircraft, with much margin.

 

I don't remember how to record, will have a look for next occasion.

 

Ctrl + R should be the default command, otherwise what you have it bound to can be found with a search.

[PB0_Roll]

Thanks 👍