Aces of Thunder (PSVR2 and PCVR)

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

Surprised there is no thread on this...looks like a great entry-level sim! 

 

 

[Trooper117]

It's just a jazzed up version of War Thunder, that's all...

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

It also cuts out the worst elements of War Thunder like mouse controls, external views and the grind. It could have potential if they update the FMs, I could never get into War Thunder because of that. The planes feel like toys.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

Even with it's faults WT is a product that just works. Has great performance, more than adequate visuals etc. Good to have choices, not all want a study sim level fidelity. VR is just a great bonus to that.

[Trooper117]

Not all want a pay to win game either...

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

On 8/8/2024 at 6:22 AM, Trooper117 said:

Not all want a pay to win game either...

It's not pay to win. It's paid with limited planes. Looks like an updated Wings of Prey for VR! 

[Trooper117]

I hope you get a lot out of it and enjoy playing it... 

[BOO]

I wonder if it will struggle to attract the "hard core" flight simmers despite being an ok, reliable and fun experience simply cos of its WT roots and the given that being fun and reliable just isnt cricket when it comes to hard core simming. Not that it matters given all it needs are some smudgeovision goggles and a cheapo HOTAS. I suspect thats the target audience, those who use VR to also swipe imaginary swords/guns at floating cubes/zombies and the like whilst regualrily breaking off to check Tik Tok, not Simon Simpit. 

 

I also wonder if that grindy, pay to win, element isnt actually a large part of WTs success. Some people are just wierd like that. 

 

Ultimately, I dont know enough about WT to judge other than Ive never felt any need to play it. The graphics look ok but i suspect the experience is something akin to 1946 with cheats on FM wise. 

[Trooper117]

I played WT to find out what it was all about... spent about 6 months on it, on and off, and yes, it's a grind fest, it is absolutely a pay to win game, don't let anyone tell you different.

You don't have to work hard to learn the ropes, flying is easy, a low learning curve, and it's just arcade fun in an aeroplane. Which for many is all they need.

A far better experience of course is the old IL2 1946, which has a much steeper learning curve, and is not a pay to win flight sim game.

If you are flying IL2 GB successfully, but you haven't tried WT yet, all I can say is don't bother... I doubt you will play it for long.

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

I dont think the grind is there for the players happiness, its there to harvest the players dopamine center for money.

[Lusekofte]

Well I believe it is made for people who like to fly WT 

I only tested it once. I can not judge and a very few can actually have credibility enough to speak about it. 
I personally see no difference in this and Gb 

If it is it is mere details

[GOA_Karaya_VR]

WarThunder with Steroids?

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

There cutting the worst stuff, so it should be less war thundery but still war thundery. I'm thinking it could be fun to dabble in if your also a gamer, but I'm expecting it to have dinky guts. The simmer only person would probably rather smash his balls with a hammer than play this for one minute.

[Lusekofte]

B6M and helldiver…. I would be more interested in this than that Korea thing. Not meaning I would buy this. 

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

That's true, if it has a plane you can't find elsewhere, this version could be better than nothing.

[BOO]

15 hours ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said:

The simmer only person would probably rather smash his balls with a hammer than play this for one minute.

Given the choice……I could cope with a minute. 

[Lusekofte]

16 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

B6M and helldiver

If the speed and flight characteristics is in such a way I feel can remotely pass as realistic. I would look at these two. Together with earlier versions they are favorites of mine. Remember my favorite time consuming simming contain choppers that can do forward and backward loops without any significant loss of altitude. I am good at not exploiting those tendencies 

[kraut1]

Could be very interesting.

Last year I flew very frequently with War Thunder SP with VR, realistic settings and a good working realistic Joystick configuration.

(Default Joystick configuration is total strange, maybe for arcade gaming. But is possible to change that it is like IL-2 GB)

The problem is that the available SP missions are few and a bit restrickted and the full mission builder is complex and time consuming.

So, if the new game contains better SP missions and maybe a good quick mission builder to generate interesting SP missions it could be interesting for me.

Examples for War Thunder SP missions with realistic settings:

 

Edited August 20, 2024 by kraut1

[Lusekofte]

SCW   Hmm interesting. There is a lot more to this WT than I ever knew. 
Mention SCW here and you get attacked 

[Trooper117]

10 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

Mention SCW here and you get attacked 

 

Not exactly true mate... I've never seen anyone get angry because SCW gets mentioned or wanted.

[Lusekofte]

I mentioned it many times and there are some, not you, but some loud speakers very negative to that idea in very high notes. 
I am into early war myself gladly prewar   That is why I deleted GB. They ended that hope when bodenplatte came. And now Korea. So I fly choppers in DCS and look for a replacement ww2 arena. 
SCW would be great even if it is WT. I need only small fixes. Small drips of bygone era. Then back to chinook and Kiowa

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

Is there anywhere to get updates on this game? All I can find are the teaser vids. Kinda odd if its supposedly launching within the next few months.

[Trooper117]

Only info is that it is coming sometime in the last quarter 2024... that's on the official Gaijin site.

I certainly won't be getting it as I have no interest in VR anyway!

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

They sure know how to blue ball a guy.

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

WW1 planes incoming! Looking to be a nice game: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsSk6W7ZdaE

[Charger_]

The graphics on this game look better the more snippets I see.

 

Warthunder graphics got a big DLSS 4 boost recently too.

 

If this ends up having full realism settings and a good flight model this game might be a standout.

 

 

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

I dont know if we're getting the full sim settings. I've never seen the rudder pedals move in any of the vids, and rudder control hasn't been mentioned yet by the devs AFAIK. Hopefully we get sim settings, but we'll see.

[ST_Catchov]

 

The WW1 stuff looks nice but I'd have to send the missus back to work to afford the VR/RIG upgrade. And then months of fun VR tweaking and faffing about. Heaven.

[Lusekofte]

I am not negative about this at all. If anything I feel a growing hope it might be something I can work with 

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

I think it's a giant wild card. There's so much that's unknown, I see lots of potential in all directions good and bad.

[Lusekofte]

I mean Helldiver, Kate, yeah a lot you never will see anywhere else. I don’t ask for a perfect FM just a believable one 

I don’t ask for perfect graphics my computer probably can’t utilise it. But I pray to the lords of flight sims this allowed for proper controls, and is not arcadish crap with crap pit’s. 

[Mysticpuma]

I think for my PS5 Pro and VR2, it will be great to have something to play that's plug and play!

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

Looks like they just released a vid showing the rudder pedals moving, so thats a very good sign for those wanting sim controls. There's also zeppelins to attack/defend in the vid so that looks fun.

EDIT: I watched the vid on my phone at first, looks like they're not zeppelins, just zeppelin shaped balloons tied to the ground.

 

https://x.com/acesofthunder/status/1898011527480828190

 

There's some other new vids on their x too, looks like they're dropping more info more often now, which is a good sign for the release date coming soon.

 

 

Edited March 14 by =MERCS=JenkemJunkie

[Charger_]

More stuff dribbling out for this game. It's becoming clear the target audience is the non flight Sim crowd. Early beta testers on YouTube are not flight simmers.

 

But on the positive side, the hand controllers are a tantalising feature. It isn't live yet, and only spoken of but If I'm following this right, I think it means just hand tracking and full interactive cockpits. Wow 😮 

 

 

Edited April 16 by Charger_

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

Yeah, early vids say we're getting stuck with auto-trim (which significantly dumbs down the handling in WT live) and the only engine control we get is throttle. I could tolerate no MEC, but auto trim could potentially kill the game for me from both a sim and videogame perspective. Which is too bad because the game looked like it had lots going for it with scale and quick action via matchmaking.

[Charger_]

Interestingly Gregs Airplanes and Automobile channel has started to use this game for his technical videos. Hes a fan. His latest J2M2 video is all Aces of Thunder footage:

 

 

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

That spawn system looks interesting where you get 1 life per plane. Should help avoid meta spam, and looks fun and clutch if you end up with the thicc planes dogfighting each other at the end of the match on their last life.

[HazMatt]

On 4/16/2025 at 6:28 AM, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said:

Yeah, early vids say we're getting stuck with auto-trim (which significantly dumbs down the handling in WT live) and the only engine control we get is throttle. I could tolerate no MEC, but auto trim could potentially kill the game for me from both a sim and videogame perspective. Which is too bad because the game looked like it had lots going for it with scale and quick action via matchmaking.

I'm confused. WT in sim mode has full engine controls and trim and no auto trim but they new game only has auto trim? Guess I'm not following.

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

It's not set in stone AFAIK, but based on what the beta players are saying, it looks like they're forcing everyone on auto-trim and no MEC. Weirdly though all the programming for MEC and manual flying are in the game and you can toggle it using weird steam hacks, so its something the devs could easily add into the game any time they want to. It just seems they don't want to add it. Hopefully we get an official option to turn it on in a non-goofy way and be able to lock people into sim controls only rooms, or auto control rooms, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that.

 

 

[kraut1]