Air to air missiles

[kainlad]

I'm not too familiar with different aircraft of the Korean war. But it seems that sidewinders were first produced in the 1950s. I was wondering if any of the confirmed planes had the capability to use these or any other A2A missiles. Is it something that we could expect to see in IL2: Korea?

[BlitzPig_EL]

Nope, no guided A2A missiles in the Korean war.  Just guns, the old fashioned, and best, way.

Edited July 25, 2024 by BlitzPig_EL

[migmadmarine]

Interestingly there were technically guided missions that could be implemented down the road in the form of bomb laden F6F hellcat drones guided by skyraider motherships.

[Avimimus]

20 hours ago, kainlad said:

I'm not too familiar with different aircraft of the Korean war. But it seems that sidewinders were first produced in the 1950s. I was wondering if any of the confirmed planes had the capability to use these or any other A2A missiles. Is it something that we could expect to see in IL2: Korea?

 

The first operational systems don't appear until three years after Korea:

AIM-4 - 1956

AIM-9 - 1956

RS-2US / K-5MS - 1957

 

Even then, it takes years before they become effective (even for tail-on firings against large bombers which didn't have countermeasures they were unreliable).

 

There were unguided air-to-air missiles though, for example:

F-86D - 1951

F-94C - 1951

CF-100 - 1952

 

All of these aircraft were equipped with unguided air-to-air rockets with radar assistance for aiming (instead of using guns). Some of them were later converted back to using guns (CF-100, F-86K/L etc.)

[Avimimus]

A brief correction: The CF-100 originally carried the machine-gun pack and continued to carry it in the Mk.4 (which had both guns and mighty mouse air-to-air rockets). The Mk.5 dispensed with the guns for a rocket only armament. So, it never reverted to guns (rather the other way around). It is also the only design listed to have simultaneously carried rocket and guns.

 

I once had a conversation with a former ground crew of this aircraft. My one take away was that the intercept radar required constant tuning and work... If I recall correctly it was often something like three hours of work between flights if one wanted reliability. So a good simulation of radar intercepts in this era should probably have plenty of radar issues simulated, and the radar performance and accuracy should never be the same between two flights! I rather enjoyed sitting in the cockpit of one of these though!

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

I hope the radars are extra useless. I like the eyes out of the cockpit gameplay, and the suspense of knowing you're never safe. I think the gameplay suffers a lot when you can fall asleep in the cockpit and just wait for the beeps or pong screen to tell you someone's close. I always think its kind of funny to imagine someone buying a 4090 in DCS just to end up staring at a 4K MFD with pong graphics like "I have no regrets...".

[Gunfreak]

On 7/25/2024 at 5:46 PM, kainlad said:

I'm not too familiar with different aircraft of the Korean war. But it seems that sidewinders were first produced in the 1950s. I was wondering if any of the confirmed planes had the capability to use these or any other A2A missiles. Is it something that we could expect to see in IL2: Korea?

 

First use of air to air missiles was the during the 2nd Taiwan straight crisis in 58. When the an F86 shot down a MiG17