CUJO_1970 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Does anyone know when the Focke-Wulf One Hundred and Ninety will be ready please? Thanks in advance.
1CGS LukeFF Posted December 12, 2012 1CGS Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) (Prepares for discussions about the cockpit bar...) :D Edited December 12, 2012 by LukeFF
Novotny Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 For the announced title: no, it will not be there. For that business in the 40's - no, it wasn't there. Any questions about F-16s? Phantoms? Sopwith Camels?
Ataros Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Not in BoS. But maybe as a paid-for premium aircraft? Personally I am not buying anything that has less than 4 cannons
Chief_Mouser Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 (Prepares for discussions about the cockpit bar...) :D Oh my. That bloody bar. The only bar I never wanted to hear of again!. :cheers:
Trooper117 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 God yes, that's a blast from the past There was endless nashing of teeth over that one!
VaeTibi Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 The only Fw I would be interested in would be this baby: Not the one for the poor folks who can only afford one engine.
Chief_Mouser Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Well that one was certainly there. Fingers crossed! :cheers: The only Fw I would be interested in would be this baby: Not the one for the poor folks who can only afford one engine.
[LAS]URURolf Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 You will need to wait for BoL, or BoK.
Krupi Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 You will need to wait for BoL, or BoK. BoL or SoL Siege of Leningrad
mazex Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 For the announced title: no, it will not be there. For that business in the 40's - no, it wasn't there. Any questions about F-16s? Phantoms? Sopwith Camels? Well, adding Camels for 777 will not be much of a problem at least
exhausted Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 BoL or SoL Siege of Leningrad Leningrad would be great because we could expand the Luftwaffe and the Finnish air force. 2
ATAG_Doc Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 All they have to do is model it and list it for sale. You will be able to download it at some point and fly it with the WWI a/c.
Krupi Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 All they have to do is model it and list it for sale. You will be able to download it at some point and fly it with the WWI a/c. I don't think BOS and ROF are going to be linked like that!
Skoshi_Tiger Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Next they will be asking for these: But I thought the devs already said they would have a 109??? Or did you mean the aircraft carrier? 3
CUJO_1970 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Posted January 4, 2013 All they have to do is model it and list it for sale. You will be able to download it at some point and fly it with the WWI a/c. I would pay as much for the FW190 alone as I would for the entire sim :wub: . I think everyone understands that it won't be included in any historical scenarios regarding BoS. That doesn't mean there aren't a lot of us patiently waiting for it as the sim is hopefully successful and expands into other theatres - the community has shown in the poll it is the most desired aircraft outside of the historical planeset. I have a feeling the developers are going to do a great job on BoS and I will be happy to fly the historical planeset until my Butcherbird takes to the virtual skies.
71st_AH_Hooves Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 I would pay as much for the FW190 alone as I would for the entire sim :wub: . I think everyone understands that it won't be included in any historical scenarios regarding BoS. That doesn't mean there aren't a lot of us patiently waiting for it as the sim is hopefully successful and expands into other theatres - the community has shown in the poll it is the most desired aircraft outside of the historical planeset. I have a feeling the developers are going to do a great job on BoS and I will be happy to fly the historical planeset until my Butcherbird takes to the virtual skies. THIS^ Im hoping this gets off the ground so to speak, and Ill second that paying hansomly for a detailed aircraft though it wouldn't be that 190. Ill pitch in for that P-51 on your six though!!!
hiro Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Too early to tell. Yes! The BAR! Hope Jason n devs save themselves from a nuclear post fall out and pass the bar test. 109 and 190 pilots cannot visit the same bar as the bar would implode due to extreme awesomeness
danjama Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 We can't let the bar issue 'block our vision' of the future of this sim. 1
csThor Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 Hopefully (just as any other type) not before it fits the scenario depicted. We've had enough watering can planes in 1946 and prior, no need to infest the new series with old maladies. 3
Faustnik Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 I'm sure the Fw190 will be the first addon plane with BoS. B) Fw190s where used on the Eastern Front it late 1942. I would have really wanted to use a CloD addon with the Fw190 and Spit V. 1
BRIGGBOY81 Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 sorry if i may be opening up old wounds but i didnt play il2 46 as i wasnt in to simming then. but what is the bar issue
DD_fruitbat Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) go to ubizoo ( http://forums.ubi.com/forumdisplay.php/69-IL2-Maddox-General-Discussion ) and search for FW 190 bar, and read some of the 1 million threads! basically there was a cockpit framing bar obscuring the very bottom of the gunsight. Cue many arguments about refraction and other stuff. what i thought was amazing is that when TeamD finally changed it, there was hardly a whimper on the subject, go figure. Anyway, love the Fw 190, can't wait to fly one in the new sim in an expansion B) Edited January 4, 2013 by fruitbat
Faustnik Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) the "Bar" was a great fight! IL-2 4.11 is great with charts and gives a planes speed, climb and roll rate. The Fw190 was so good because of its balance with the stick, rudder, aireron and elevators. Capt. Brown and other RAF test pilots thought the Fw190 was such a great fighter because of this. I don't think that most sims with great flight sticks and keys gives us a real "feel". CloD has a feel for moving a lot of "hand" for buttons and lot contantly messing with you radiator, prop pitch, and boost. Edited January 4, 2013 by Faustnik
Jetlagg Posted January 4, 2013 Posted January 4, 2013 All they have to do is model it and list it for sale. You will be able to download it at some point and fly it with the WWI a/c. Whoa slow down partner. This isn't true. ROF and BOS will be incompatible.
BlitzPig_EL Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Why the big rush to get to 1944? Early war scenarios are far more interesting, and have way cooler planes, oh, but I forgot... No uber cannons. I swear, if the FW 190 was armed with six .50 machine guns, none of you guys would touch it with a ten foot joystick.
IbisWTE_Ibis Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) unknown contributor from way back Cheers Ibis. Edited January 5, 2013 by Ibis 1
Original_Uwe Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Why the big rush to get to 1944? Early war scenarios are far more interesting, and have way cooler planes, oh, but I forgot... No uber cannons. I swear, if the FW 190 was armed with six .50 machine guns, none of you guys would touch it with a ten foot joystick. I'm calling shenanigans. Sounds like someone has cannon envy.
ST_ami7b5 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 I love that plane but I don't want to see it in BoS - because she simply doesn't belong there, sorry. In another theatre (where FW 190 DID participate) I would be the first one to buy her for sure...
CUJO_1970 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Posted January 5, 2013 Why the big rush to get to 1944? Early war scenarios are far more interesting, and have way cooler planes, oh, but I forgot... Stalingrad is not an early war scenario - it is mid-war and in 1942 the FW190 was already deployed to other sectors of the Eastern Front while the Battle of Stalingrad was being fought.
CUJO_1970 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Posted January 5, 2013 No one has requested the FW190 to be included at the BoS. We are simply optomistic that BoS will be a success and will lead to other theatres and other aircraft. Is that really so hard to understand?
heinkill Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Plenty have requested the FW190, it is the most popular machine in the 'which aircraft do you most want to buy' poll. But as Cujo says above, I take this to mean that people want it as an add-on - not part of the Stalingrad scenario where it doesnt belong - certainly that was my intention in posting the poll. I personally think the main game should concentrate on the kites that were actually there, I am a great fan of 'historicity.' But as an add-on I would pay extra for, I want to be able to buy, and fly, and build missions for, my vote is for the FW190 for LW and the P39 or another lend lease aircraft for Allies. So I hope the devs quickly come with a generic Eastern Front or Steppes map we can use for mission building too. H Edited January 5, 2013 by heinkill 1
ST_ami7b5 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 OK, then I want it A.S.A.P. :D Looking forward to your BoS +.... missions Heinkill.
ST_Catchov Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Bring it on .... this Focke-Wulf aeroplane! Edited January 5, 2013 by catchov 1
BRIGGBOY81 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Stalingrad is not an early war scenario - it is mid-war and in 1942 the FW190 was already deployed to other sectors of the Eastern Front while the Battle of Stalingrad was being fought. yes but people would like a realistic simulation of the battle to be reproduced so if it didnt feature in the battle then it shouldnt be in the sim.
BlitzPig_EL Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) I'm calling shenanigans. Sounds like someone has cannon envy. Not in the least, I fly the 190 and 109 when necessary, they are easy airplanes to get kills in, I understand their popularity among the online JGs. That said, for me, it's about history, having the correct plane sets for the time and place simulated. Now if a later or geographically different scenario is presented then I'm all for the inclusion of the 190, the La5fn, and any other later war hot rod you care to name. Edited January 5, 2013 by ElAurens
Krupi Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 The 190 is not a late war hot rod the dora is yes but not the A series of FW190
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