Presenting our new title, Korea. IL-2 Series

[LuftManu]

3 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Really looking forward to ground attack in the Corsair and F80.  Much mud moving in the future!

You call it!



I had tons of fun reading this book a few months ago: https://www.amazon.es/Korean-Air-War-Meteors-1950-53/dp/1472844440

Really good idea about the theater and missions made by both sides.

Also, another one interesting for me is the F-84. I hope we get it to escort the B-29s on the first phases! F-84 against MiG-15Bis will be rough!

[R7-S276]

even if the developers come back to Il-2 time by time to add some planes and maps, the development of a new game like Korea will take them so many time and ressources that maybe we could have a Il-2 GB: Battle of Malta maybe in … 2065 🤔 

[LuftManu]

8 hours ago, R7-S276 said:

even if the developers come back to Il-2 time by time to add some planes and maps, the development of a new game like Korea will take them so many time and ressources that maybe we could have a Il-2 GB: Battle of Malta maybe in … 2065 🤔 

But probably, Battle of Malta could never have been if we kept the old engine! 

Think of this as a stop to then jump higher. They needed time to prepare a better foundation and base to later expand

[Gambit21]

Just now, LuftManu said:

But probably, Battle of Malta could never have been if we kep the old engine! 

Think of this as a stop to then jump higher. They needed time to prepare a better foundation and base to later expand

 

 

Yep - I think this is all positive, and good for everyone (even if everyone doesn’t quite realize it yet)

Old content will become dated looking, but there’s no helping that. Onwards.

I’ll be back in with PTO. Korea is cool - just lack of time to explore it most likely. 

[MiGCap]

46 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Really looking forward to ground attack in the Corsair and F80.  Much mud moving in the future!

 

+1 here!

[Dagwoodyt]

7 hours ago, kodam said:

Third question is the opinion that there are too many trees in the mountain shown in the screenshot released, are you willing to reduce the amount of trees?

Since the Joseon Dynasty, there have been very few trees in the mountains because logging has been prevalent to support the large population. Then, after becoming a Japanese colony, Japan started the Pacific War and cut down even more severely, so there were no trees left in the mountains during the Korean War.

If such was actually the state of foliage during the war would seem the developers' research would have taken it into account early on. 🤔

[MajorMagee]

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Really looking forward to ground attack in the Corsair and F80.  Much mud moving in the future!

 

One of the nice things about developing the ground attack aspect of Korea is that it will require lots of troops, equipment, and vehicles as targets. Some Tanks and Artillery to deal with these targets as part of a combined arms approach would be an outstanding experience as well. 

[Gunfreak]

2 hours ago, R7-S276 said:

what I mean is Korea would be a DLC for Il2 series and not a full new game, so people who like could buy it for cheap than a full new game, people who doesn’t like could not buy it and developers could still developing Il-2 new WW2 theaters on new DLC… What could be the expansion and the futur of a simulator only focus on the Korea war ?

Il2 is seriously lacking in many things holding it back. It was time to move forward. They'll probably use the new improved engine to come with new ww2 stuff later on.

[Gambit21]

8 hours ago, R7-S276 said:

even if the developers come back to Il-2 time by time to add some planes and maps, the development of a new game like Korea will take them so many time and ressources that maybe we could have a Il-2 GB: Battle of Malta maybe in … 2065 🤔 

 

Probably not even by then, since as far as I'm aware they have no plans to go there...specifically, they have plans to not go there. 

That could change, but tell your great grandkids not to hold their breath.   Best to put it out of your head, relax and let them do their thing...take it as it comes, and enjoy your Mustang, Yak, Corsair, IL-10 and La-11. 

[BraveSirRobin]

3 hours ago, R7-S276 said:

even if the developers come back to Il-2 time by time to add some planes and maps, the development of a new game like Korea will take them so many time and ressources that maybe we could have a Il-2 GB: Battle of Malta maybe in … 2065 🤔 

Korea is not delaying Battle of Malta.  Capitalism is delaying Battle of Malta.  You were never going to get Battle of Malta.

[Suurin_]

I for one can't wait to fly the MiG-15! I've become quite bored with WW2. This generation of jet fighters still required a level of precision and skill in a dogfight and has me excited! Can't wait!! 

[Gwoodby]

I love how everyone wants to complain given any chance to do so....thanks Devs for giving us another combat sim in a very small market....keep up the good work.

Edited June 27, 2024 by Gwoodby

[CzechTexan]

Is there a picture of the mapped area of Korea for this new Korea sim?

[Bell]

10 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

Ever hear of the Me-262? Arado?

You know I mean postwar jets.

 

10 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

Nobody is too interested, but go ahead and tell us. 

I have F-86 and MiG-15 in DCS,I don't know why I have to play these two planes in IL-2.

 

10 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

They already compete with DCS.

I mean postwar jets.

 

11 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

Not so much.

They are now making jet planes that already exist in DCS.IL-2 is more attractive than DCS in WWII, but for postwar jets,I can't say for sure.

 

11 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

and?

So we will get Marines Corsair?

 

11 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

A nonsensical capper to a completely nonsensical rant.

 

I mean you will definitely see IL-2 Vietnam.

[Charger_]

I wonder how online matchups are going to work? Sabres and Migs are going to dominate. 

[migmadmarine]

22 minutes ago, Bell said:

They are now making jet planes that already exist in DCS.IL-2 is more attractive than DCS in WWII, but for postwar jets,I can't say for sure.

The DCS F-86 is a post Korea version, and doesn't have much if any appropriate context to fly it in. We are getting a an F-86A which should be quite a different beast to the DCS late F, since it has the original wing, no flying tail, and no leading edge slats. And it has a proper map, and plane set to fly alongside and against. 

[Gambit21]

17 minutes ago, Charger_ said:

I wonder how online matchups are going to work? Sabres and Migs are going to dominate. 

 

I imagine more or less like it's supposed to work.

 

Sabres vs MiG's, anyone else should stay on task, avoid contact with them if possible.

If you're talking E-Games sillness, then yes they'll dominate obviously.

 

27 minutes ago, Bell said:

You know I mean postwar jets.

 

No I didn't know that, and to that point...functionally what is the difference between operating an F-86 or MiG 15 and an Me_262?

Essentially same same. 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Bell said:

 

I have F-86 and MiG-15 in DCS,I don't know why I have to play these two planes in IL-2.

 

You don't have to.

 

 

27 minutes ago, Bell said:

 

So we will get Marines Corsair?

 

Likely

 

27 minutes ago, Bell said:

 

I mean you will definitely see IL-2 Vietnam.

 

Eventually maybe

[Juri_JS]

2 hours ago, CzechTexan said:

Is there a picture of the mapped area of Korea for this new Korea sim?

The games page mentions a size of 440×440 km. This is rather small for a Korea map, so I guess we will only get parts of North Korea with the Mig Alley area. Probably from Seoul region to the Chinese border.

 

 

Edited June 27, 2024 by Juri_JS

[Rjel]

2 hours ago, Gwoodby said:

I love how everyone wants to complain given any chance to do so....thanks Devs for giving us another combat sim in a very small market....keep up the good work.

Brown noser…. I kid. I kid. 🤭

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said:

If such was actually the state of foliage during the war would seem the developers' research would have taken it into account early on. 🤔

 

It has been taken into consideration. Again, the current map renderings are not going to be what's in the public release. 

 

2 hours ago, CzechTexan said:

Is there a picture of the mapped area of Korea for this new Korea sim?

 

Not yet

[Sobilak]

15 hours ago, Bell said:

I don't hate Korea,just thinking IL-2 should focus on WWII.

 

I'm not a fan of this project (Korea). I don't think I will buy it.

Unless it is to prepare and check new solutions for simulation and then returning to WW2. Then I will buy it to financially support further development.

[Bell]

13 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

That’s because you had your head in the sand not paying attention. 
Next time listen.

I kept a close eye on it, but I don't want to believe it until it is officially announced.

[Gambit21]

Just now, Bell said:

I kept a close eye on it, but I don't want to believe it until it is officially announced.

I think you’re going to enjoy Korea in any case if you give it a chance.

 

[Bell]

1 hour ago, migmadmarine said:

The DCS F-86 is a post Korea version, and doesn't have much if any appropriate context to fly it in. We are getting a an F-86A which should be quite a different beast to the DCS late F, since it has the original wing, no flying tail, and no leading edge slats. And it has a proper map, and plane set to fly alongside and against. 

They are both F86, aren't they?1CGS have confirmed that it would be F-86A?The DCS Sabre is F-86F-35,which is F-86F-30 with LABS,and F-86F-30 served in Korea War.And F-86A has slats.

 

2 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

No I didn't know that, and to that point...functionally what is the difference between operating an F-86 or MiG 15 and an Me_262?

Essentially same same. 

Not related to the operation.One is during WWII, and the other are postwar. It's that simple.

 

1 hour ago, Sobilak said:

I'm not a fan of this project (Korea). I don't think I will buy it.

Unless it is to prepare and check new solutions for simulation and then returning to WW2. Then I will buy it to financially support further development.

I'm afraid that their focus won't be on WWII anymore.Just like war thunder,it used to be a WWII flight game and introduced ground vehicles,then helicopters,then supersonic aircraft,then air-to-air missiles,become more and more modern, more and more complex,people forget it was a WWII flight game .

[BlackSix]

4 minutes ago, Bell said:

They are both F86, aren't they?1CGS have confirmed that it would be F-86A?The DCS Sabre is F-86F-35,which is F-86F-30 with LABS,and F-86F-30 served in Korea War.And F-86A has slats.

Here is detailed information about what we plan to do:

[Sobilak]

5 minutes ago, Bell said:

I'm afraid that their focus won't be on WWII anymore.Just like war thunder,it used to be a WWII flight game and introduced ground vehicles,then helicopters,then supersonic aircraft,then air-to-air missiles,become more and more modern, more and more complex,people forget it was a WWII flight game .

Choosing Korea as a theater of war will not attract as many players as WW2 and will not bring much profit. War Thunder is a game for millions of people who collect various points and other such things, extensive simulators for aviation fans, but "forgotten" Korea is only for enthusiasts. With plans for complex immersion in a simulation, it is impossible to create a creation like War Thunder.

[PivoYvo]

20 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Have you tried it though? If you've never tried a Korean Air war simulation - how can you really know?

Sorry, i don´t need to try it, cause i don´t like the setting and planes, it can be great but i wont play it anyway, no interest in these planes or time period. Have a nice day. 

Edited June 27, 2024 by PivoYvo

[Panzerlang]

I haz question...

I 'mastered' the Mig15 in DCS, referring mainly to the click-pit start-up malarkey. There's a widget under the left side of the seat that was very hard to access with TIR but none the less it was all very immersive and satisfying.
I know Korea won't have click-pits but will it have something more than pressing a simple E button to fire it up (ditto the other planes)? As in all the cockpit functions mappable to controllers? Or something in between?

TIA.

[Bell]

44 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

I think you’re going to enjoy Korea in any case if you give it a chance.

I know it may be interesting, but I'm really sorry to see IL-2 leave WWII.

 

9 minutes ago, BlackSix said:

Here is detailed information about what we plan to do:

Ok,F-86F is possible.

 

7 minutes ago, Sobilak said:

Choosing Korea as a theater of war will not attract as many players as WW2 and will not bring much profit. War Thunder is a game for millions of people who collect various points and other such things, extensive simulators for aviation fans, but "forgotten" Korea is only for enthusiasts. With plans for complex immersion in a simulation, it is impossible to create a creation like War Thunder.

If they want to focus on WWII, they won't choose Korea.They will never go back to WWII again,they will only make more and more modern things.

[Sobilak]

We will see in the future.

[ST_Catchov]

To be honest I think Korea's an interesting idea, not often done, with a lot of potential and I reckon it'll do well. Good luck to 'em. I also have a Kia. 😀

 

But I'm here for WW1. You can't beat open cockpit, the dawn of military aviation and those amazing crates. I love 'em all. Ah cannae help it.

[Vilir]

38 minutes ago, Bell said:

If they want to focus on WWII, they won't choose Korea.They will never go back to WWII again,they will only make more and more modern things.

 

Developers stated few times what next theatre they hope to make - PTO. And Korea, as i see it, good starting point to develop carriers technology -  for Korea at first and when applying it for PTO in the future.

[Sobilak]

So we will have 2 PTO new simulations and non ETO/MTO?  🤔🥺

[EAF19_Marsh]

7 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said:

You were never going to get Battle of Malta.

 

Because you can't handle the truth.

[76IAP-Black]

Juhu, the modern Internet is so awesome!!! Guys are complaining about what we don't get, instead of talking about, what the new engine will give us for many many years.

I was dissapointed the past "year(s)" about what happen to the il2 franchise. Il2 46 was a nearly complete sim, with many planes to choose from. Something GB will never achieve in quantity, but in quality!

To spend money on something, you don't know were it will lead to, was not a good feeling, the reason why i have not bought the 152 yet.

My opinion has changed... 

There is a reason behind the new engine, to make a technical step forward, look at DCS, how they finaly found their way for the next decade. Il2 GB was at its limits.
So lets see what this very interesting era of aviation will provide us.
Korea was well known to be the next title in the Il2 series, the first pics and screenshots that were published, look very promisin! 

I see new Jets, new weapons, weaponstations, droptanks, new graphics, physics, sim calculation, new munitions, coming naval DLC's even a possible way to expand to  the PTO or even go to vietnam!
Ok thats a bit to far...

waiting for the next DD No.2

Edited June 27, 2024 by 76IAP-Black

[ITAF_Rani]

Is there the possibility of same of the new technologies will be implemented in the current IL2 GB modules.?

Edited June 27, 2024 by ITAF_Rani

[blitze]

6 minutes ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Is there the possibility of same of the new technologies will be implemented in the current IL2 GB modules.?

Hopefully over time.  Some way to update with the new engine without having to redo all assets or at least be able to easily upgrade them to new standards and re implement them.  As for Korea audience - Hmmmm West vs East - not much different to now.  China, Korea, Soviets vs USA and friends.  Quite a match up and it would be lovely to see large flights of B29's as well as the Mud Moving element that was the War (mainly on the West side).

[Robli]

I think that the IL2 team kind of missed out with some easy milking by not doing Italy or Africa for the old engine, but I also understand why they could have felt that it was time to take the step towards the future and create a new engine instead of milking the old game with new DLC's. This step had to be taken sooner or later anyway. 

 

The next question is why Korea instead of Pacific, when their existing customer base had begged for Pacific for so long, their brand is about WWII and in general would probably be more attractive to the wider public than "the forgotten war" of Korea. I think that the teams personal feelings could have an impact here; Has has said in the past that he would be interested in doing Korea and they could have become kind of bored with the WWII themes over the year, so Korea could be something new and exciting for them to do. Could be something new and exciting for some players, too, especially as there has not been a good combat flight sim about that conflict, but overall I still think that Pacific would have been a more attractive choice.

[Patricks]

I'm in the camp that are greatly looking forward to this new direction, and I believe the reality is it will draw a lot of people into the IL-2 Series that are currently flying DCS (which has 3-4 Korean era planes but no Korea map) and even from BMS which has 1970s+ jets and a great Korea map. They needed to go in a new direction with graphics as time marches on. As for the people crying "will my 10 year old box run this?", flight sims have ALWAYS required the latest/greatest in PC power, always will, which is just the way it is.. that's why there are graphics sliders.

[Trooper117]

7 hours ago, Gwoodby said:

I love how everyone wants to complain given any chance to do so....thanks Devs for giving us another combat sim in a very small market

 

I agree with that...