Any word on the 'next project'?

[Nickkyboy99]

The devs said they'll announce it in late Spring.

 

Tomorrow is the first day of summer.

[Avimimus]

Two weeks?  

 

Be calm!

[AEthelraedUnraed]

In one of their recent podcasts, if the auto-translated text is to be trusted, they said they'd announce it this June.

[Enceladus828]

So less than two weeks 

 

Be sure

[GOA_Karaya_VR]

10 minutes ago, Enceladus828 said:

So less than two weeks 

 

Be sure

Or a single word? : No.. 😄

[Trooper117]

If they announce it in 2 weeks I'll eat my... (insert word here)

[LukeFF]

We're one day closer than yesterday. 🙂😁

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, Trooper117 said:

If they announce it in 2 weeks I'll eat my... (insert word here)

 

Seriously, I'd be interested in you finishing that sentence!

[RedeyeStorm]

49 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

 

Seriously, I'd be interested in you finishing that sentence!

Mayby we should finish it for him. My input 'his joystick'.

[Vishnu]

"SOON"

[Luger1969]

I just hope the first releases are the sabre and mig 15.

[CountZero]

1 hour ago, Luger1969 said:

I just hope the first releases are the sabre and mig 15.

Considering that we dont have pre-orders i expect all airplanes from start, F86s, F84s, F80s, F9Fs, MiGs and AI B29 are must for Korea to have any chance, rest is just filler

[Luger1969]

To make this real low hanging fruit it could be f86a and e...mig 15 and 15bis.

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Rumor has it FC4 is due in 2024.  Maybe FC4 will be the next update?  🤞

[JG4_Moltke1871]

49 minutes ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Rumor has it FC4 is due in 2024.  Maybe FC4 will be the next update?  🤞

In my opinion there should be an Flying Circus 5 before anyone can think about an “Korea new project” 

☝🏻

[CountZero]

2 hours ago, Luger1969 said:

To make this real low hanging fruit it could be f86a and e...mig 15 and 15bis.

yes, only f86A would be tuff sell, there needs to be more F86 models they dont have big chance vs migs early on, it would be like having dlc with only spitv vs 109g10 with some ww1 airplanes sprinkled in for GA, it would get boring realy fast

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

In my opinion there should be an Flying Circus 5 before anyone can think about an “Korea new project” 

☝🏻

 

Why stop there? I'd be in for a Flying Circus 7 (although, I could see stopping at six)! 

 

 

2 hours ago, Luger1969 said:

To make this real low hanging fruit it could be f86a and e...mig 15 and 15bis.

 

Not an F-51 and a Yak-9? 😄 

[BlitzPig_EL]

I'm hoping for the Corsair or Skyraider as I feel the need to blow up stuff.  Maybe even bag a Mig here or there.

[ST_Catchov]

4 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Why stop there? I'd be in for a Flying Circus 7

 

Okay. So then .... #5 is Channel map, #6 is Italy map and #7 is Palestine map right? 

 

4 hours ago, Avimimus said:

(although, I could see stopping at six)! 

 

Wrong. I thought you wanted the Bristol M.1C?

 

[Enceladus828]

1 hour ago, ST_Catchov said:

Okay. So then .... #5 is Channel map, #6 is Italy map and #7 is Palestine map right? 

There could also be the Tarnopol, Romania and Macedonia/Balkan maps so #8, #9, and #10.

 

Edit: if the Tarnopol map was extended by another 35 km northwest then it would include my great-grandfather's hometown along with Lemberg (now Lviv).

Edited June 21, 2024 by Enceladus828

[ST_Catchov]

2 minutes ago, Enceladus828 said:

There could also be the Tarnopol, Romania and Macedonia/Balkan maps so #8, #9, and #10.

 

Sounds good to me.

[Avimimus]

9 hours ago, ST_Catchov said:

Okay. So then .... #5 is Channel map, #6 is Italy map and #7 is Palestine map right? 

 

7 hours ago, Enceladus828 said:

There could also be the Tarnopol, Romania and Macedonia/Balkan maps so #8, #9, and #10.

 

I mainly think about it in terms of aircraft to fill in gaps in the existing theatres, and accessing the Italian/Austro-Hungarian front (with its exotic and high performance aircraft).

 

I'd tend to go:

5. Western Front Map 1916 (small changes to existing map to justify it as a full volume, but mainly a plane pack to fill in gaps - including some late war aircraft).

6. Channel Map (including some land-planes)

7 & 8. Italy map split into two releases - Isonzo and Venice (but combined into one map - as was done with the Western Front map). Here sets of eight aircraft would be released (using Italian variants of the N.11/N.17/H.D.1 to get to the sixteen aircraft total).

 

Maybe use a smaller team aiming to release four or five aircraft per year (so eight years of development to complete the above program with its four releases)...

 

P.S. If I were a third party - I'd probably start out with a Bristol Boxkite. If that worked I'd move on to a Roland D.VIb, Caudron G.4, or Rumpler C.IV or Hannover Cl.II in order to gain more experience, then pitch scaling up to four or five aircraft per year.

[Trooper117]

Stop trying to turn this thread into an FC thread... were's the moderators when you need them?... no wait.............. 🤬😇

HOWEVER!!!... (can we at least have the Channel map and float planes, pretty please)

[JG4_Moltke1871]

11 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

Stop trying to turn this thread into an FC thread... were's the moderators when you need them?... no wait.............. 🤬😇

HOWEVER!!!... (can we at least have the Channel map and float planes, pretty please)

Before this thread comes under moderation I have the duty to draw the attention to the need of having the AEG G. IV as an unique twin engine plane what can use as a ground attacker in 1918 spring offensive scenarios and to have a counterpart to the Mighty Breguet 14b with it’s amazing bomb load ☝🏻

[Avimimus]

Regarding the point about Flying Circus - the developers haven't stated that the next module won't be Flying Circus... So, I'm not sure we're off-topic.

 

As a reminder - if you want to discuss moderation, then send a direct message to the moderators or the community manager (LukeFF). See rule 6 of the forum rules - we're always open to getting input on moderation (including in a group private message), but for obvious reasons, we can't allow discussion on the public forums.

 

  

18 minutes ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

Before this thread comes under moderation I have the duty to draw the attention to the need of having the AEG G. IV as an unique twin engine plane what can use as a ground attacker in 1918 spring offensive scenarios and to have a counterpart to the Mighty Breguet 14b with it’s amazing bomb load ☝🏻

 

The AEG G.IV bomber could fly at 165 km/h too - making it as fast as almost all German two-seaters (only a couple types reached 170-175 km/h e.g. Rumpler C.IV). There is also the G.IV/N variant with an expanded wingspan that could carry a much heavier bombload... and it should be easier to fly than the Gotha. Finally, there is one preserved example (currently in Canada). So, it'd actually be a pretty reasonable addition.

[Trooper117]

1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

if you want to discuss moderation, then send a direct message to the moderators

 

Oh, c'mon... my post was an obvious piss take, hence the emoji's and my immediate referral to more FC content...

[Avimimus]

2 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

Oh, c'mon... my post was an obvious piss take, hence the emoji's and my immediate referral to more FC content...

 

Yeah, I enjoyed your response (to be honest).

 

On the other hand, it is important to me that moderation be fair. This means applying rules without making exceptions.

 

It is also important that new people understand the forum rules, so posting a reminder is useful. Also, if a conversation had continued with more people on the subject, and it got out of hand - to appear fair, I'd probably have to apply the rules retrospectively to everyone who technically violated the rule in the conversation (even if the first post was harmless or funny).

 

That is my logic anyway.

[LukeFF]

 

[Aapje]

[EAF19_Marsh]

2 hours ago, Aapje said:

 

They spilt the can of red paint?

[ST_Catchov]

14 hours ago, Avimimus said:

P.S. If I were a third party - I'd probably start out with a Bristol Boxkite.

 

I'm not so sure about that. Although I do have a soft spot for pushers. If you're talking about RFC trainers, I'd go Farman Long and Shorthorn pushers followed up by the legendary Avro 504. These kites seem to be the preferred choices for training flight pupils in Britain early to mid-war at least. When we get the Channel and SE England map perhaps they could be incorporated? I have no idea what the Germans used as trainers during this period, but I'd be interested to know ....

 

But if this is not feasible, I do like the idea of at least getting a few collector crates every now and then to fill out the existing maps.

 

And then Italy.

 

[CountZero]

italy is to populated, tight streats, rome and so on... wwI italy is no go 😄

[ITAF_Rani]

16 minutes ago, CountZero said:

italy is to populated, tight streats, rome and so on... wwI italy is no go 😄

Italy is the next 💯%

[CountZero]

17 minutes ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Italy is the next 💯%

only if italy IL-2 comunity gets together and builds a map like Fins did

[Avimimus]

40 minutes ago, CountZero said:

italy is to populated, tight streats, rome and so on... wwI italy is no go 😄

 

The only cities on a WWI map would be Venice, Trieste, Treviso, and Udine... the rest is countryside and mountains. I agree with you though - it'd likely have to be done primarily as a community project, working part time, and then becoming a full module later.

[Avimimus]

  

9 hours ago, ST_Catchov said:

I'm not so sure about that. Although I do have a soft spot for pushers. If you're talking about RFC trainers, I'd go Farman Long and Shorthorn pushers followed up by the legendary Avro 504. These kites seem to be the preferred choices for training flight pupils in Britain early to mid-war at least. When we get the Channel and SE England map perhaps they could be incorporated? I have no idea what the Germans used as trainers during this period, but I'd be interested to know ....

 

But if this is not feasible, I do like the idea of at least getting a few collector crates every now and then to fill out the existing maps.

 

And then Italy.

 

 

Ah, well the Box-Kite was used as a trainer in the early war (and they built quite a few), but the main reason I'd suggest it (other than the fact I like the plane), is the lack of a cockpit and relatively simple design.

 

Bamboo, wood, silk - with the really complex part to 3d model being the engine. So, I thought it could be a good training project for a third party (looking at how past third parties have often had to do revisions to get a model to work well). It'd allow releasing something early, and building working relationships etc. There is less to go wrong, and it spreads out the on-boarding process over two aircraft (with working on cockpit 3d models being the focus of the second aircraft). Modelling the later Farmans would be as complicated as modelling a lot of other aircraft - so something like the Voisin III or Airco D.H.5 would probably make more sense.

 

As for the Germans - I believe they used obsolete two-seaters and single-seaters, but with less powerful engines. For instance, a large portion of the Aviatik C.I production was for use as trainers. Later the built a large number of single-seat fighters for training, including some types that were largely diverted from front-line duty (Fokker D.V / M.22, Fokker D VI).

[ITAF_Rani]

1 hour ago, CountZero said:

only if italy IL-2 comunity gets together and builds a map like Fins did

IL 2 Italian  comunity doesen t exist anymore...

Only ITAF and GEMINI  are the only main italian flying groups  operative in this sim at moment..other italian pilots are no more interested or present in quite rare occasions..

Edited June 22, 2024 by ITAF_Rani

[ST_Catchov]

1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

Ah, well the Box-Kite was used as a trainer in the early war (and they built quite a few), but the main reason I'd suggest it (other than the fact I like the plane), is the lack of a cockpit and relatively simple design.

 

I see. Yes, it is very simple, so it would be a good training exercise for a 3rd party. I'm a sucker for pre and early war aircraft so I'd welcome it.

 

Here's one flying over Stonehenge.

 

 

And thanks for the info on the German trainers. 👍

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, ITAF_Rani said:

IL 2 Italian  comunity doesen t exist anymore...

 

Well, what we're discussing would really require two or three people who were very obsessed with map making (and willing to put much of their spare time into it over more than one year, without burning out), and a few very competent 3d modellers who could reproduce an aircraft with a very high degree of accessibility, and possibly an investor. So, it might be possible with just five or six people. Also, they needn't all be Italian (or Austrian or Hungarian) - I think the subject is interesting enough to inspire people from outside of the region.

 

1 hour ago, ST_Catchov said:

 

I see. Yes, it is very simple, so it would be a good training exercise for a 3rd party. I'm a sucker for pre and early war aircraft so I'd welcome it.

 

Here's one flying over Stonehenge.

 

 

And thanks for the info on the German trainers. 👍

 

My pleasure! I'd be tempted to research the trainer situation more if I had more time.

 

Here is a view from the cockpit: 

[BlitzPig_EL]

I just don't see the efficacy of building something like the Box Kite.  What the WW1 side of the sim needs are more 2 seaters and early scouts.  Types that will actually be useful for single and multiplayer.