LW AI set up to attack bombers with BR21

[TP_Jacko]

Hi I have been experimenting to set up LW fighters to attack a group of aircraft with rockets. Has anyone got a working group. I have not had much luck setting it up

[Jaegermeister]

I have never been able to get that feature to work. I know it has been reported as a bug but I do not recall it ever being fixed. They used to jettison rockets when they started to attack an enemy flight.

[IckyATLAS]

What is LW?

[kraut1]

1 hour ago, IckyATLAS said:

What is LW?

I suppose Luftwaffe

[kraut1]

Question:

Are other rockets used by AI fighters for air to air combat?

(the russian rockets and the R4M?)

[IckyATLAS]

I thought it meant Low Wing aircraft 😁

[Jaegermeister]

14 hours ago, kraut1 said:

Question:

Are other rockets used by AI fighters for air to air combat?

(the russian rockets and the R4M?)

the player can use them but the AI will not fire them at air targets

[kraut1]

6 hours ago, Jaegermeister said:

the player can use them but the AI will not fire them at air targets

If they are not able to fix the ai to use rockets against planes:

From my point of view they could try to define the rockets as single shot guns (one catridge in magazine), the rockets as shells with the low rocket velocitity, but without air drag / air resistance and a giant tracer effect to simulate the rocket.

Edited June 23, 2024 by kraut1

[Jaegermeister]

14 hours ago, kraut1 said:

If they are not able to fix the ai to use rockets against planes:

From my point of view they could try to define the rockets as single shot guns (one catridge in magazine), the rockets as shells with the low rocket velocitity, but without air drag / air resistance and a giant tracer effect to simulate the rocket.

It has been reported various times in multiple sections of the forum. I don’t know why it was not corrected when the Me 410 was released and it was reported then. Maybe another bug report now would get some attention. 
😉

[IckyATLAS]

But was the use of rockets against airplanes a "normal" use in WWII?

The rockets were so imprecise and not very effective even in ground attack, so often fired as a full salvo just to have some effect, that I am not sure that would have been practical for air to air attack, maybe at extremely short distance against a large target like a bomber.

 

[kraut1]

1 hour ago, IckyATLAS said:

But was the use of rockets against airplanes a "normal" use in WWII?

The rockets were so imprecise and not very effective even in ground attack, so often fired as a full salvo just to have some effect, that I am not sure that would have been practical for air to air attack, maybe at extremely short distance against a large target like a bomber.

 

I would say it was normal only for some times:

Beginning in late summer or autumn 1943 the Luftwaffe started to use the 21cm BR21 as far as I know as a (not precise) long distance weapon against the B17 / B24 Bomber formations. At first, I think during the Schweinfurt raid, the huge explosions rockets had some psychological impact (and if they hit sometimes a real effect), some allied formations were broken. I don`t know how long the 21cm BR21 was used.

 

And the R4M that was much more effectice and a long range weapon too, was used only for a short period at the end of the war.

 

For me the question is: were the rockets used against the in  IL-2:GB available medium bombers?

 

 

 

[Stonehouse]

4 hours ago, IckyATLAS said:

The rockets were so imprecise and not very effective even in ground attack

 

Ironically if you are talking imprecision, according to Knoke's book at one stage they dropped bombs from fighters onto formations from above with the bombs set to airburst with the hope that the explosion would take out a chunk of the formation. Apparently sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. 

[IckyATLAS]

On 7/3/2024 at 2:59 PM, Stonehouse said:

 

Ironically if you are talking imprecision, according to Knoke's book at one stage they dropped bombs from fighters onto formations from above with the bombs set to airburst with the hope that the explosion would take out a chunk of the formation. Apparently sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. 

Seems  a desperate maneuver, like those cutting through the bomber with their propeller and jump afterwards, or kind of similar attacks.