Ta-152 Info?

[Eisenfaustus]

Are there by now any infos about when the Ta 152 will released or how it will be implemented into career mode?

[LukeFF]

It's in testing right now, so it will likely be in the next update. 

 

In career it will likely be available from March 1945. 

[Eisenfaustus]

19 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

March 1945

As crossing of the Rhine starts in February does this mean we won’t be able to start a dedicated Ta 152 career?

[LukeFF]

10 minutes ago, Eisenfaustus said:

As crossing of the Rhine starts in February does this mean we won’t be able to start a dedicated Ta 152 career?

 

Sure you can - it will just jump you to the first date the unit that has it is available. 

[1Sascha]

Slightly OT, but: Any plans to also model the 152C? I know it's a bit sketchier than even the H since nobody seems to know for sure if any C-models were ever flown operationally, but I think it would make a nice addition and it probably shouldn't be *too* much work to "convert" a 152H into a 152C.

 

Also: The 152 H will be a collector plane, right? Not part of an upcoming new module/theater of operations?

 

 

 

S.

Edited June 11, 2024 by 1Sascha

[Trooper117]

The only production version of the aircraft that was operational was the H version... any others come under 'maybe or possibly' and without proof they won't be making the C variant.

[1Sascha]

47 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

The only production version of the aircraft that was operational was the H version... any others come under 'maybe or possibly' and without proof they won't be making the C variant.

Meh... I'll just keep my hopes up for IL-2 BoX "1946", then... 😄

 

S.

[Rjel]

38 minutes ago, 1Sascha said:

Meh... I'll just keep my hopes up for IL-2 BoX "1946", then... 😄

 

S.

There was mention several years ago by Jason about having interest in a 1946 style expansion but with his departure I think that possibility went with him. A lot of folks don’t care for the idea but I’ve always enjoyed the “what ifs” of the late war airplanes, paper or prototypes and their cutting edge technologies. 

[David_4555]

Shame. A "Battles of 1946" module as a sort of remaster of the old game would've been fun. So many planes to add: Ta-183, MiG-9, Yak-15, YP-80, P-59A, Me-262HG-II/III, Me P.1101, Me-163B-1, Meteor, Heinkel Lersche, He-162A/B/C, Ju-287, ...

[Jaegermeister]

8 minutes ago, David_4555 said:

Shame. A "Battles of 1946" module as a sort of remaster of the old game would've been fun. So many planes to add: Ta-183, MiG-9, Yak-15, YP-80, P-59A, Me-262HG-II/III, Me P.1101, Me-163B-1, Meteor, Heinkel Lersche, He-162A/B/C, Ju-287, ...

 

You will get your wish! A "Battles of 1950" module as a sort of remaster of the old game is coming...

[sevenless]

1 hour ago, 1Sascha said:

Meh... I'll just keep my hopes up for IL-2 BoX "1946", then... 😄

 

S.

 

I guess it will be "Korea" first with the next incarnation of the game engine. What comes next to that, you never know. However I can relate, having had lots of fun with SWOTL and IL2-1946 back then.

[David_4555]

27 minutes ago, Jaegermeister said:

 

You will get your wish! A "Battles of 1950" module as a sort of remaster of the old game is coming...

Korea isn't quite the same though

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, 1Sascha said:

Slightly OT, but: Any plans to also model the 152C? I know it's a bit sketchier than even the H since nobody seems to know for sure if any C-models were ever flown operationally, but I think it would make a nice addition and it probably shouldn't be *too* much work to "convert" a 152H into a 152C.

 

Also: The 152 H will be a collector plane, right? Not part of an upcoming new module/theater of operations?

 

 

 

S.

 

No plans for the C variant and yes, it'll be a collector's plane. 

[Yogiflight]

There are so many interesting aircrafts missing, which really existed and took part in the war, together with so many maps and battles, that I would much rather see them modelled than a 'what might have took place if the war was going on longer' extension.

[354thFG_Leifr]

There's no time, not enough interest, too difficult... or something, something, to that regard I guess.

[Avimimus]

9 hours ago, Rjel said:

A lot of folks don’t care for the idea but I’ve always enjoyed the “what ifs” of the late war airplanes, paper or prototypes and their cutting edge technologies. 

 

I personally love being a virtual test-pilot (and I cut my teeth on SWOTL)... so I'd love a BvP 212 or BvP 215 for instance. More plausibly, a He-162 would make some sense. That said, I'm not sure the gameplay is that great... but, then again, I tend to think that everything after 1942 is too transonic, too heavily armed (etc.) to be ideal for enjoyable dogfights!

 

Anyway, I can say that I've come around on the Ta-152H (and that it might be even more fun than a Ta-152C would be). It'll be a pretty interesting experience.

[Rjel]

6 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

There are so many interesting aircrafts missing, which really existed and took part in the war, together with so many maps and battles, that I would much rather see them modelled than a 'what might have took place if the war was going on longer' extension.

One man's apple is another's orange. We all like what we like. As it's nothing but wishful thinking as far as BoX is concerned, it really makes little difference what either of us want or like.

[1Sascha]

20 hours ago, Rjel said:

A lot of folks don’t care for the idea

 

Not *too* sure about that .. I mean.. there have been quite a few games/sims depicting these kind of scenarios. As many others have pointed out, I'm sure quite a few of us sim-vets have started out with SWOTL for example. Plus there used to be (still is? not sure) an entire website and online-database dedicated to those experimental aircraft. Luft46 dot com IIRC?

 

I do get folks however who think it's more "important" to concentrate on designs that were actually built and flown in combat. Especially these days when researching and building a single plane is probably much more work for designers/devs than it used to be in the old days.

 

 

S.

[kraut1]

I think for the Ta-152H we could create for ca.march to april 45 in the western eastern parts of the Rheinland Map some at least semi historical correct missions. Maybe ca. 25 to 40 missions at all which could be used to end a wartime career or create a short 1945 campaign of a novice pilot. And it is interesting to read in Wikipedia, that some of the real air combats were flown at low level (e.g.: 14th April / Willi Reschke).

Edited June 12, 2024 by kraut1

[Yogiflight]

18 hours ago, Rjel said:

One man's apple is another's orange. We all like what we like. As it's nothing but wishful thinking as far as BoX is concerned, it really makes little difference what either of us want or like.

Absolutely agreed. It is just my personal opinion.

[Crious]

On 6/11/2024 at 11:05 PM, Yogiflight said:

There are so many interesting aircrafts missing, which really existed and took part in the war, together with so many maps and battles, that I would much rather see them modelled than a 'what might have took place if the war was going on longer' extension.

A26 invader, la7, yak3, fw190a9, ju188, ju388, stuvi on ju88 and stuka, baufighter, arado 232 transport plane, 4 engine planes (even with ai controlled fuselage stations) battle of france, balkans, north africa, or even poland (maps/airplanes), pacific,

a new classification system for mp servers based on estimated costs/values for any object in the game or at least the possibility for server's developers to design the outcome of the campaings accordingly.

Yes there are more that could be done and the most serious of all a new game engine that could offer better spotting, more online players slots, more aaa instead of laser accurate ones (see taw) and the ability to tranfer the "old great battles" to it.

Do i ask to much? May be , may be not.

Developers knows...

Edited June 13, 2024 by 335th_GRAlbatros74

[marcobona]

Hi at all,

History reports that the Ta 152 H-1 (the only operational type) operated only on airfields near Berlin between March and April 1945 (Alteno, Sachau, Stendal and Neustadt-Glewe) with III./JG 301 and Stab./JG 301. So I'm wondering, where on the Bodenplatte Scenario will this fighter be deployed?

[sevenless]

1 hour ago, marcobona said:

Hi at all,

History reports that the Ta 152 H-1 (the only operational type) operated only on airfields near Berlin between March and April 1945 (Alteno, Sachau, Stendal and Neustadt-Glewe) with III./JG 301 and Stab./JG 301. So I'm wondering, where on the Bodenplatte Scenario will this fighter be deployed?

 

Well the germans had the habit to test new planes in what was called "Erprobungskommando" units. Maybe 1C may place a "Erprobungskommando Ta 152" on an airfield in the eastern area of the Rheinland map and for the sake of gameplay and bend history a little bit as they have done with the Fw190-A3 on the Stalingrad map?

 

 

Erprobungskommando Ta 152 (ww2.dk)

 

Erprobungsstellen der Luftwaffe (Bestand) - Archivportal-D

[Eisenfaustus]

In BoS they solved the Fw 190 „issue“ by placing the correct unit in the wrong location. 
 

So I guess it‘ll be the III./301 but too far west. And since the dev blog suggested that the Ta would also be flying airfield protection I imagine this unit to share an airfield with some jet unit. 

[marcobona]

So III./JG 301 in an airfield in North-East: Vorden (Ar232), Hesepe (Ar232/Me262) or Achmer (Ar232)

Edited June 14, 2024 by marcobona

[LukeFF]

It is planned to have it at an airfield at the northeast corner of the map but with JG 11 from March 1945, as they are known to have received a handful of 152s.

[sevenless]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

It is planned to have it at an airfield at the northeast corner of the map but with JG 11 from March 1945, as they are known to have received a handful of 152s.

 

Nice!

 

The loss of two Ta 152s of JG 11 [Archive] - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (12oclockhigh.net)

[FL_Valkyrie]

On 6/3/2024 at 5:30 PM, LukeFF said:

It's in testing right now, so it will likely be in the next update. 

 

In career it will likely be available from March 1945. 

Any chance to make it available a bit earlier so we SP Onlys can enjoy it a bit More/Longer in Career Mode?

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, FL_Valkyrie said:

Any chance to make it available a bit earlier so we SP Onlys can enjoy it a bit More/Longer in Career Mode?

 

No, we're in release candidate testing now, so the earliest it'll come is at the beginning of March.

[HazMatt]

12 hours ago, LukeFF said:

No, we're in release candidate testing now, so the earliest it'll come is at the beginning of March.

 

When will this be available for purchase?

[sevenless]

9 hours ago, HazMatt said:

When will this be available for purchase?

 

Usually Tuesday is the day...

[LukeFF]

9 hours ago, HazMatt said:

When will this be available for purchase?

 

On release day. 

[Trooper117]

5 hours ago, LukeFF said:

On release day. 

 

Really? release day seems a little to soon to me...

[Jaegermeister]

On 6/16/2024 at 9:22 AM, LukeFF said:

No, we're in release candidate testing now, so the earliest it'll come is at the beginning of March.

 

Well since it's June now, don't you mean July?

 

Never mind, I read your comment out of context. 

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, Jaegermeister said:

Well since it's June now, don't you mean July?

 

Never mind, I read your comment out of context. 

 

Yes, I should have made that more clear. 😄

[HazMatt]

13 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

On release day. 

Right, I'm trying to get an idea of the release day date. Would it be in the next month? Next 6 months? Next year? Just looking for a ballpark time frame.

[ShamrockOneFive]

17 minutes ago, HazMatt said:

Right, I'm trying to get an idea of the release day date. Would it be in the next month? Next 6 months? Next year? Just looking for a ballpark time frame.

Luke said they are in release candidate testing just a few posts ago. That typically means imminently. Today, tomorrow, middle of the week sort of thing. Unless they find some big issue and have to do some more rounds of testing. Usually release candidate means its good to go.

[HazMatt]

Ah. Thank you. I guess I missed that post. I had no idea that it would be released so soon!

[LukeFF]

Yes, we're very close, so ideally you'll have it before this week is over. 

[marcobona]

A question about this beautiful plane. What are the selector switches highlighted in the cockpit picture and what are they for?