What's the best way to stop enemy planes from taking off?

[bycomet]

In the attack airfield mission, I saw 4 enemy P51B on runway ready to take off. How to stop them? Using bombs to destroy the runway? Runway seems unbreakable in the game. Strafing? I'm not a good shooter to destroy all 4 in one dive. If any of them gets into the air, my FW190A8 will be in great danger!

[JG4_Moltke1871]

Best would be a strategic bomber campaign to destroy their refinery‚s until they running out of gasoline 🙂

[BlitzPig_EL]

That would be a long flight to Texas in an He-111 don't you think?

 

😁

 

 

[ZachariasX]

Put a lot of op-eds in their newspapers questioning the possibility of flight for heavier than air vehicles and always suggest them doing their own research. It won‘t take long until the pilots ask for more convenient types of cars.

[BlitzPig_EL]

In all seriousness, if those are AI planes on the runway, just attack the leader, either with bombs or your guns, or better both.  Your FW has a lot of 20mm ammo, use it.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

1 hour ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

That would be a long flight to Texas in an He-111 don't you think?

 

😁

 

 

For that need the Texas map and the Amerika Bomber.

Sure the „new project“ is Korea? 🙂

[AEthelraedUnraed]

16 hours ago, bycomet said:

In the attack airfield mission, I saw 4 enemy P51B on runway ready to take off. How to stop them? Using bombs to destroy the runway? Runway seems unbreakable in the game. Strafing? I'm not a good shooter to destroy all 4 in one dive. If any of them gets into the air, my FW190A8 will be in great danger!

As you noticed, runways cannot be damaged. However, if you drop a bomb in the middle of the four planes, you likely take out all of them.

 

If you can't or don't want to use your bombs, strafing is a very good option. Even if you don't outright kill them all, you very likely damage them which makes them vulnerable in any eventual dogfight.

 

Still, it's possible that one or two aircraft take off relatively undamaged. In that case, you still shouldn't worry. You have much greater energy (speed + altitude) and it'll take at the very least a few minutes for them to make up for this advantage. Keep your speed high, which allows you to dictate the fight, and don't get drawn into a turning fight. Alternatively if you don't feel up to a dogfight, drop your bombs and make a beeline for friendly territory. With your energy advantage, you should be able to make it.

[Jaegermeister]

From that position, I would pickle 1 bomb on the staging flight and try to hit the rolling leader with the 2nd. I would do an immediate wingover and come back to drop the 3rd bomb on anyone who is left. If any of them make it through that mess, picking 1 or 2 off while they are climbing off the runway should be no problem.

[PatrickAWlson]

9 hours ago, Jaegermeister said:

From that position, I would pickle 1 bomb on the staging flight and try to hit the rolling leader with the 2nd. I would do an immediate wingover and come back to drop the 3rd bomb on anyone who is left. If any of them make it through that mess, picking 1 or 2 off while they are climbing off the runway should be no problem.

 

I would unload all bombs on the first pass and then come back and strafe.

[R33GZ]

On 5/28/2024 at 2:41 AM, bycomet said:

In the attack airfield mission, I saw 4 enemy P51B on runway ready to take off. How to stop them? Using bombs to destroy the runway? Runway seems unbreakable in the game. Strafing? I'm not a good shooter to destroy all 4 in one dive. If any of them gets into the air, my FW190A8 will be in great danger!

Pretty sure that is a G8 with that load out. Like Patrick said, you're best to unload everything on the first pass, but drop your bombs at 1 second intervals to really maximise the frag effect on the runway. If it was multiplayer, I'd say hit the boost  and use your 10min of emergency power to get the hell out of there on the deck before you get bounced... but single player, you could probably afford to get your altitude back and go for a gun run. If it is the G8, then you'll only have your inboard 20s though

Edited May 28, 2024 by R33GZ

[Mtnbiker1998]

3 hours ago, R33GZ said:

...If it was multiplayer...

If it was multiplayer, I'd say its a real D!ck move to camp the spawn airfield like that...

 

Then again, I'm a single player guy so proper multiplayer etiquette is not my strong suit. 

[R33GZ]

15 hours ago, Mtnbiker1998 said:

If it was multiplayer, I'd say its a real D!ck move to camp the spawn airfield like that...

 

Then again, I'm a single player guy so proper multiplayer etiquette is not my strong suit. 

Probably depends what server I guess. If it was CB then there'd be accurate AAA, sirens and flares going off and with an attack angle and altitude like the screenshot you'd better be moving really fast or you'll be dead. Then you'd have the problem of egress. The G8 is fat and ungainly, you would get run down at low altitude, assuming you survived the flak. It takes a bit of skill and a lot of luck to pull off an airfield strike as a lone wolf on Combat Box. Definitely not what you would call 'camping' 😁

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

That is textbook spawn camping. If the server's designed for you to do it, then I won't say don't do it, but it's still textbook spawn camping.

[R33GZ]

8 minutes ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said:

That is textbook spawn camping. If the server's designed for you to do it, then I won't say don't do it, but it's still textbook spawn camping.

Nonsense, circling above an airfield waiting for someone to spawn in would be 'text book spawn camping'.

 

Flying at 50m AGL from takeoff, navigating accurately to an IP, executing a pop up, IDing a target, dropping ordinance and running home takes a certain amount of skill and luck. There is no waiting for a target to appear and on CB there is highly accurate expert flak that makes survival a 50/50 affair at best... not to mention enemy aircraft.

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

I'm not using the word as an insult, but it's just factually spawn camping. The difficulty of it doesn't matter. You're intentionally killing the player in his spawn point.

[BlitzPig_EL]

Gamer talk.

 

So called "spawn camping" is a valid tactic.  This is a simulation after all.

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

Yeah it is gamer talk, some people don't like hearing gaming slang in a sim environment and it might be bad sim etiquette or immersion breaking etc., but that doesn't mean it's a wrong way to view the situation. Sims are still games, if this was a 100% perfect sim there wouldn't be any respawns at all.

I didn't say not to do it, if the server allows it, it's allowed, but it still is what it is.

[R33GZ]

1 hour ago, =MERCS=JenkemJunkie said:

I'm not using the word as an insult, but it's just factually spawn camping. The difficulty of it doesn't matter. You're intentionally killing the player in his spawn point.

I think your definition is incorrect, but I'll  agree to disagree. For what it's worth, I never said anything about targeting a player.  With a pop up attack you only have a small amount of time to find a target and that is usually static aircraft or airfield infrastructure. There are no markers or target indicators, just what you can see in front of you as the dive is initiated. Having said all that, if I am ever lucky enough to find a taxing aircraft in front of me when executing a pop up, you can bet your ass I will be targeting him.

 

You should fly on CB and have a go, I think you'll find there is much more to it than you perceive.