VR if the user has to wear glasses

[453=SGII_Wotan]

Can you use vr headsets if you have to wear glasses or do you have to get scripted inserts so you can see

[Charlo-VRde]

It depends upon how much space there is in the VR headset to fit glasses. You can increase that space by using a thicker foam padding face gasket, but some VR headsets have more space than others for allowing glasses.

 

I recommend prescription lenses for both convenience and to reduce or eliminate scratching the VR headset’s lenses by your glasses contacting the headset’s lenses.

 

If the VR headset is being used by multiple people who have different glasses prescriptions, then either don’t bother with prescription lens inserts or look to see if there are magnetically-attached lens inserts for your VR headset.

[453=SGII_Wotan]

Thanks 

[Comrade_Weng]

Although I don't wear glasses, the quest 3 has 4 adjustable positions for the face gasket to accommodate glasses wearers and can be increased further with padding.

[BOO]

This is a bridge Ive yet to cross but, doing a qick google fu it seems the requirment for suing glasses with VR may also depend on if you are long or short sighted. I dunno if thats correct?

 

 

EDIT as you can see- the requiement for me using glasses whilst postng is also a must!!)

Edited May 25, 2024 by BOO

[453=SGII_Wotan]

Long sighted, without glasses I'm basically blind, I have 2 sets of glasses 1 for normal stuff and 1 for reading

[Aapje]

I prefer to have inserts so I can get as close to the lenses as possible without normally touching them, so the FOV is optimized. With glasses, any accidental contact can cause damage. With inserts, worst case is that you smudge them. You can clean off smudges, but you can't clean off scratches.

 

Comfort with inserts is better, since you don't have the temple legs getting in the way. Downside is that you will have fuzzyness when looking at your environment though gaps in the facial interface.

 

I use these as I'm from the EU: https://vroptician.com/

 

As you can see they are available for many different headsets and in my experience they work well, but removing and placing them is fussy, so not great if you normally share the headset. Apparently other companies sell inserts with magnets.

[Argosafe]

I can second the use of inserts from https://vroptician.com/.  These have been a game changer for me as I use varifocal glasses, which distort the VR image.  With inserts, this all goes away!

[TCW_Brzi_Joe]

 I do not see well at distance, nor close. But at medium range (about my hand range) I see the best.

 

It seems that my pimax crystal, and before 8kx and 5k have picture projected at that range where I see the best

Also I tried briefly my reading glasses, and my driving glasses in vr hmd, but it was actually worse there. I guess I was lucky with vr.

 

[Aapje]

Current VR headsets have a fixed focal distance, so things that are close or very far away are indeed out of focus a bit. Fixing this probably requires fundamentally different technology, like shooting low power lasers into your eyes. This is in very early development and perhaps we'll ever get that (if they manage to shrink it down, make it cheap enough, etc).

[Lusekofte]

You can get lenses adjusted for you in most vr goggles

[c19580]

I wear glasses with the Quest 3 and it’s doable.

 

but when I upgrade to the Crystal Light, I’m most likely going to get prescription lenses.

[[CPT]Crunch]

Reloptics does a reading glasses ratio integrated into your prescription, works excellent for me.

[Rjel]

My experience with VR is limited but wearing glasses isn't unfortunately. I'm in bifocals and when I tried the second Oculus headset about 3-4 years ago, I got nauseous as Hell. I tried 3 times over the course of a weekend with the same result each time and finally gave up. My only guess would be my eyes were moving between the bifocal part of the lens and the rest of glass. It was very disconcerting. A shame, as what I saw was very cool. I'd love to try a higher res unit but honestly, if my only option is buying prescription lenses for an already high price headset, that's just more than I want to spend right now.

[Aapje]

I don't have bifocals, but I would assume that you'd have learned to look through the top of the glasses when looking at a distance.

 

Note that nausea is common in VR anyway, regardless of glasses. Some people can never deal with it and others get used to it.

 

How did you test VR? I hope that you didn't start off by flying right away?

[Ghost666]

1 hour ago, Rjel said:

My experience with VR is limited but wearing glasses isn't unfortunately. I'm in bifocals and when I tried the second Oculus headset about 3-4 years ago, I got nauseous as Hell. I tried 3 times over the course of a weekend with the same result each time and finally gave up. My only guess would be my eyes were moving between the bifocal part of the lens and the rest of glass. It was very disconcerting. A shame, as what I saw was very cool. I'd love to try a higher res unit but honestly, if my only option is buying prescription lenses for an already high price headset, that's just more than I want to spend right now.

I wear trifocals, can't even wear them using a flat screen with head tracker. I had to go get a pair of reading glasses at the drug store just to fly. I would think that reading glasses would work for you, letting you focus no matter where your eye looked.

[Rjel]

Might be an option. Thanks. Next eye dr visit I plan an asking a couple of questions about it. 

[Rjel]

2 hours ago, Aapje said:

I don't have bifocals, but I would assume that you'd have learned to look through the top of the glasses when looking at a distance.

 

Note that nausea is common in VR anyway, regardless of glasses. Some people can never deal with it and others get used to it.

 

How did you test VR? I hope that you didn't start off by flying right away?

No I did the setup and looked around the virtual scenery. I’d read a lot of comments warning of over doing it on the forum. Took the unit off for a bit then I did start the sim. More setup in the hanger and looked around in there a little while.. As to flying I really never got that far. A couple of short flights on auto pilot is all. It really was quite amazing but the screen door effect with the Oculus didn’t really impress me and then the nausea started so that ended my experimentation. 
 

Maybe I’ll give it a go again someday with an higher res unit. Who knows, but my somedays might come and go quicker than I expect right now. 

 

[Aapje]

Autopilot is still flying. If the nausea only started when flying then I wouldn't blame the glasses. That is classic VR motion sickness where your mind gets upset at the visuals not matching what the vestibular system and other senses ought to report.

Edited May 29, 2024 by Aapje

[firdimigdi]

19 hours ago, Rjel said:

A couple of short flights on auto pilot is all.

 

IMO it's easy to get nausea if you are not used to VR and you try something which you cannot control. Whenever you give it another shot just do short 15min start-in-the-air flights initially, no extreme banking, no aerobatics and if you can then have a fan dead ahead blowing at you, even a case fan is enough as it gives your brain a point of reference (plus it's pleasant with warm weather) - once you are comfortable with that you can try some touch'n'gos.

[c19580]

1 hour ago, firdimigdi said:

 

IMO it's easy to get nausea if you are not used to VR and you try something which you cannot control. Whenever you give it another shot just do short 15min start-in-the-air flights initially, no extreme banking, no aerobatics and if you can then have a fan dead ahead blowing at you, even a case fan is enough as it gives your brain a point of reference (plus it's pleasant with warm weather) - once you are comfortable with that you can try some touch'n'gos.

it took me 2 weeks to feel comfortable using VR.

 

had very strong nausea during first week, and tried to limit my sessions to just 10-15 mins. It got progressively better until I no longer felt anything at all.

 

just need to train your brain and go slowly.