RTX 4060 TI 8GB or RTX 4060 TI 16GB

[Hexpert07]

I Don´t know if the 16gb version is worth it because I have seen videos where both cards get the same performance in multiple videogames. I wonder if the extra 8gb of Vram can help fix the stuttering I am currently getting with my rtx 2060 at 1080p in multiplayer( i dont use VR) or if those extra 8GB can make a real difference in fps. My CPU is Ryzen 5 5500 and 16 GB RAM. I have very setting set at high/ultra, MSAA 4x and SSAO and HDR off

[Aapje]

Neither, get a 7800 XT or 4070. The 4060 Ti cards are just an insult.

[Hexpert07]

I Cant since I have a 600w psu, I only want to answer my question 

[Aapje]

Unless you have a horrible PSU, it should be no problem. Quite a few people run a 4070 with a 600 Watt PSU. And you can always undervolt to make the card use even less.

 

But to answer your question, VRAM usually does not make a difference in FPS, but will require you to lower the settings if you run out. The current IL-2 engine works fine with 8 GB. The question is what the upcoming engine will require or whether you will have to lower settings.

 

And if you want to play games like DCS, then the extra VRAM will make a major difference.

[spreckair]

Also, if you want to fly in VR, the RTX 4070 is probably the cheapest card that will work well.

[HazMatt]

It looks like the TI benchmarks about 35% faster for about $100 more.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4060-Ti-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4060/4149vs4150

 

and the 4060 appears to score about 35% faster then what you have now.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4060/4034vs4150

 

It looks like you'd get twice the performance for $100 more. If it was me, based on the what I see,  I'd buy the TI for twice the performance and twice the memory.

I'd also look into reviews and stuff first to make sure these numbers bear out.

 

This looks like a decent review that might help you decide.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-16gb-review

 

Hope that helps.

[BOO]

@Hexpert07 if your current set up is satisfactory to you apart the the stuttering, perhaps work the cause of that out first. 
 

Last time I played GB I think VRAM use hovered around the 6GB mark at 1080p. 
 

If you are not using VR do you use headtracking? 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

21 hours ago, Hexpert07 said:

I Don´t know if the 16gb version is worth it because I have seen videos where both cards get the same performance in multiple videogames. I wonder if the extra 8gb of Vram can help fix the stuttering I am currently getting with my rtx 2060 at 1080p in multiplayer( i dont use VR) or if those extra 8GB can make a real difference in fps. My CPU is Ryzen 5 5500 and 16 GB RAM. I have very setting set at high/ultra, MSAA 4x and SSAO and HDR off

From a quick google search, it seems that both cards are identical apart from the amount of VRAM. That means that first of all, more VRAM is going to do absolutely nothing to your FPS. If you want more FPS, don't bother.

 

More VRAM *might* help with stuttering, but that very much depends on what is causing the stutter. So I'd advise you to first check if that's the issue in the first place. Boot up IL2 and start a mission where you'd normally see some stuttering. Now start the Task Manager and in the Performance tab, select your GPU. If your "Dedicated GPU memory usage" is full or nearly full, then adding more VRAM might help.

 

I just did a quick benchmark flight on my RTX4080 with pretty much your settings (2D 1080p, everything at max except horizon distance at 100km, MSAA 4x and SSAO and HDR off) flying 8 vs 8 above Caen, and my VRAM usage maxed out at 7.5GB. That means that the 16GB variant probably doesn't have any extra added value at all if you use it just to play IL2. I also expect some of the 7.5 GB to be caching (it started out at a little over 4GB), so just based on this test it isn't even sure that upgrading from the 6GB of your current 2060 to 8GB of the 4060 will do anything to stop this "stuttering" you perceive.

 

Instead of leaving all settings at max and then upgrade your video card hoping that this will solve your performance issues, I recommend you take a different approach. Move all setting down to a point where you're satisfied with the performance (good FPS, no more stuttering, etc.). Then see which settings you had to lower the most, and this might give you an idea of what to look for when upgrading your video card. E.g. if you had to switch off "4k textures" or "distant buildings", then it's probably a VRAM issue; if you had to lower the clouds it's more likely raw computing power. This will also give you a good base point to evaluate exactly how much upgrading your video card did help; e.g. if you had a certain setting on "low" first and it's on "high" after upgrading, you know exactly where your €400 went

 

EDIT: I should probably add that one known cause of "stuttering" in IL2 is actually the CPU rather than the GPU. In which case upgrading your GPU is obviously not going to do anything. Another reason to first find out what exactly the problem is before making any expensive purchases...

Edited May 15, 2024 by AEthelraedUnraed

[Hexpert07]

So I tested what is causing the stuttering, it happens only in multiplayer servers when approaching any plane or Fuel depots, Air bases, etc.       I think that the reason of the stuttering is the antialiasing and shadows. It still happens but in less frecuency in MSAA x2 but everything looks worse, same with shadows. I still need to test if my 6GB of VRAM are being used when playing multiplayer servers. Also thanks for your help and sorry for my bad english

Forgot to say I have PCIe 3.0

Its time for me to decide on buying a 4060 ti 8gb/ 16gb in June or wait for winter and buy 4070 ( loosing six months of good experience on gaming), If I buy the 8GB one I will have money left to buy some games and il2 planes but not the case if I buy only the 16GB version

[BOO]

9 minutes ago, Hexpert07 said:

So I tested what is causing the stuttering, it happens only in multiplayer servers when approaching any plane or Fuel depots, Air bases, etc.       I think that the reason of the stuttering is the antialiasing and shadows. It still happens but in less frecuency in MSAA x2 but everything looks worse, same with shadows. I still need to test if my 6GB of VRAM are being used when playing multiplayer servers. Also thanks for your help and sorry for my bad english

Forgot to say I have PCIe 3.0

Its time for me to decide on buying a 4060 ti 8gb/ 16gb in June or wait for winter and buy 4070 ( loosing six months of good experience on gaming), If I buy the 8GB one I will have money left to buy some games and il2 planes but not the case if I buy only the 16GB version

Do you use a headtracker? If so what is your FPS and are to using something like Vsync.?

 

I am not claiming to have a solution but you might want to check if vsync or simliar is not kicking in and causing the stutter by halving the frames or the frame drop is not conflicting with your headtracking camera refresh rate. 

[Hexpert07]

I do NOT use a headtracker, i usually move between 100 and 140 fps in singleplayer, in multiplayer i get 80-110. And I have Vsync disabled because my monitor already has G sync and does not need that setting

[BOO]

55 minutes ago, Hexpert07 said:

I do NOT use a headtracker, i usually move between 100 and 140 fps in singleplayer, in multiplayer i get 80-110. And I have Vsync disabled because my monitor already has G sync and does not need that setting

 

In that case  Im not sure the upgrades you are thinking about would yeild the solution you desire and wouldnt just be a waste of money. Theres a few threads knocking about about stuttering in MP, many posted by people with quite high end systems.  

[Hexpert07]

Mmm

[sevenless]

18 hours ago, Hexpert07 said:

Its time for me to decide on buying a 4060 ti 8gb/ 16gb in June or wait for winter and buy 4070 ( loosing six months of good experience on gaming), If I buy the 8GB one I will have money left to buy some games and il2 planes but not the case if I buy only the 16GB version

 

If you stay at 1080p you will have ZERO benefit from the 16gig 4600 Ti. Use the 8gig card instead and save 100 bucks. I went through that coming from a GTX 980 SLI combo. Now playing at 4K with a 4070TI on a 9900K with 32megs Ram. Back then in 2022 at 1080p I used the Asus Dual 4060 TI (8gig) (was 400 EUR back then) and was able to max everything out at 1080p. Your stuttering is most likely not the GPU, but your CPU.

[Aapje]

The 5800X3D or 5700X3D are much stronger gaming CPU's, so if that's the bottleneck, upgrading to one of those may help.

[Hexpert07]

I think I will buy a 4060 ti 8gb and buy a better cpu, thanks 

[Aapje]

Keep in mind that there is about a 5% speed difference between the 5700X3D and the 5800X3D, which is not much, so if the price difference is (much) more than that, get the 5700X3D.

[cardboard_killer]

Amazon has the 5700x3d on sale for $205 right now.

[yakflyer007]

I would never get a GPU with less then 12gb's of vram today.

[w00dy]

On 6/2/2024 at 1:50 AM, yakflyer007 said:

I would never get a GPU with less then 12gb's of vram today.

 

I agree, buying a new GPU with 8GB of vram for gaming is a mistake.