Developer blog #362: Odessa map update, MP video competition winners, request for photos

[LukeFF]

Developer blog #362 can now be read here: https://il2sturmovik.com/news/852/dev-blog-362/

[tattywelshie]

Wow, that was unexpected! And what a beauty of a map, looks really nice! 

[BMA_FlyingShark]

Yeah, looking good.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[Blitzen]

When can we expect this and will new plane(s) come with it?

Thanks!👍

[LukeFF]

2 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

When can we expect this and will new plane(s) come with it?

Thanks!👍

 

That's still to be determined.

[Juri_JS]

Where will be the western map border? Will Iași be on the map?

[Sneaksie]

1 hour ago, Juri_JS said:

Will Iași be on the map?

It is on the flyable area border, so in some form yes.

[felixfer]

May I ask about the chronology? Thanks in advance

[Mysticpuma]

Is this, the long awaited update? 💁‍♂️

[Aapje]

25 minutes ago, Mysticpuma said:

Is this, the long awaited update? 💁‍♂️

 

No, we are still waiting for the pre-announcement of the accouncement of the pre-release of the full release of the new game engine.

[BOO]

Will the map use the Rhineland and Normandy method of loading citys in large chunks?  As it causes me so much intial stutter that would be a serious consideration as to whether I contunie to buy into GB or not. 

[Missionbug]

Looks very impressive, congratulations to those who worked on it.

 

Am I right to assume this is the map from back in the early days of Great Battles that was then being put together by enthusiasts and was ultimately abandoned by them at that time?

 

Take care and be safe.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[76IAP-Black]

Will it be finaly possible to "land" on the docks? 
Tried it in the past on Kuban and died ... 

Do Buildings like the docks have a "solid" roof? So the game recognize it as a place to land on?
 

[IckyATLAS]

What about Sevastopol? It was not on the Kuban map but maybe here we can have it?

[=621=Samikatz]

4 hours ago, Sneaksie said:

It is on the flyable area border, so in some form yes.

 

Are the final borders decided on?

[CzechTexan]

Will there be the hidden airfield inside Odessa city?  

 

From Barbarossa to Odessa, vol.2 by Denes Bernad, Dmitriy Karlenko and Jean-Louis Roba ...

"The choice (a/f location) was Chubayevka near Bolshoy Fontan railway station, not far from the centre of Odessa.  The new airfield was built in ten days with the help of the local population.  Although narrow and short and surrounded by buildings, the auxiliary airfield reportedly served its purpose and the Soviets claimed it to have been undetected by Axis reconnaissance flights." ... 15 September 1941, page 157.

 

A few years ago, in IL-2 '46, I made a campaign in which I built this airfield using the invisible runway feature.  I had research which stated which street it was on but I have since forgotten the name.  The map would be more special if this airfield was included.

[BladeMeister]

Looking nice. Keep up the good work

 

S!Blade<><

[XQ_Lothar29]

Great surprise and looking forward to continuing supporting this magnificent simulator, and in this way we will enjoy much more

[Kapteeni]

Looks nice already! If possible, it would be great to have more isolated farmhouses and villages with only few houses than other maps. 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

Looks great! Judging on the screenshots, this has the potential to become the most beautiful map yet 👍

 

19 hours ago, Blitzen said:

will new plane(s) come with it?

I don't know if they plan to release it in conjunction with the map or as a standalone collector aircraft, but they've announced at least an I-153.

 

17 hours ago, felixfer said:

May I ask about the chronology? Thanks in advance

I think they said earlier it'll feature both the siege of Odessa in the summer of 1941, as well as its recapture in 1944.

 

Some major operations that could be done on this map include Operation München (July 1941), the Siege of Odessa (August-October 1941), the Odessa offensive (March-April 1944) and the First (April-June 1944) and Second (August 1944) Iași-Chișinău offensives. All in all a very interesting area that should provide lots of content for fans of both early and late war aircraft.

Edited May 14, 2024 by AEthelraedUnraed

[Avimimus]

It would be nice if they could bundled it with a set of aircraft and with some additional ground objects (e.g. A Regele Ferdinand class or Vifor class destroyer would be neat to have)? There are also lots of options for aircraft (including some unusual ones e.g. Ar-196, Fi-156, Fw-189, Pe-3, A-20G-1) in addition to variants of existing fighters... I suspect that then number of aircraft released may be more dependent on the capacity of third parties.

 

Also, I suspect that aircraft might not be bundled with the map due to uncertainties in the timelines of third parties. That said, I'd definitely be willing to wait a bit longer (or pay a bit more) for a bundled package with a bit more diversity in aircraft or objects.

 

P.S. Congrats to the map makers - it looks really good - love the lighthouse landmark, railyards etc.

[jg123410]

Wow. This is awesome. That map is great!!

 

Do you think the Odessa map will be a candidate for the AQMB?

 

Thanks.

[Sneaksie]

14 minutes ago, Missionbug said:

being put together by enthusiasts

Not really - it was started by one of the map team member as a personal project and grew up to something big.

 

33 minutes ago, jg123410 said:

Do you think the Odessa map will be a candidate for the AQMB?

Yes, AQMB support is planned.

[Blitzen]

Would trade this  new map for a flyable B-25 any day.. ANY DAY! 🙃

[SYN_Speck]

I'm stoked for a new map. It looks beautiful!

[Avimimus]

4 hours ago, Blitzen said:

Would trade this  new map for a flyable B-25 any day.. ANY DAY! 🙃

 

Each to their own I suppose  Btw. There is a flyable B-25 in Il-2 1946... I'm personally waiting until a B-25H or B-25G is a possibility before I get excited about one... but then, I'm a bit too much into low-altitude suicidal attack runs. So ignore my opinions!

[Blitzen]

7 hours ago, Avimimus said:

 

Each to their own I suppose  Btw. There is a flyable B-25 in Il-2 1946... I'm personally waiting until a B-25H or B-25G is a possibility before I get excited about one... but then, I'm a bit too much into low-altitude suicidal attack runs. So ignore my opinions!

You can always use  the A-20 to satisfy your needs...👍

[ITAF_Rani]

Maybe already asked .....the new map which time frame of operations  will cover ?

Thanks

[BlackSix]

8 minutes ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Maybe already asked .....the new map which time frame of operations  will cover ?

Thanks

We've not yet started work on the career mode, but the map potentially allows us to show the period from June to October 1941 and from April to August 1944.

[Lusekofte]

40 minutes ago, BlackSix said:

We've not yet started work on the career mode, but the map potentially allows us to show the period from June to October 1941 and from April to August 1944.

I hope for a planeset fitted for first one first. 
I really do. 

[ITAF_Rani]

2 hours ago, BlackSix said:

We've not yet started work on the career mode, but the map potentially allows us to show the period from June to October 1941 and from April to August 1944.

Thanks for the quickly answer...

In your opinion this scenario could see the presence of the Me 109 G10 ?

 

Best

[BlackSix]

Of course not, it's already late autumn of 1944...

[AEthelraedUnraed]

29 minutes ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Thanks for the quickly answer...

In your opinion this scenario could see the presence of the Me 109 G10 ?

 

Best

From Wikipedia: "Despite what the designation would suggest, it appeared in service after the G-14 in November 1944"

 

I'll let you draw your own conclusions as to whether we should see the G-10 in an "April to August 1944" context

 

Also refer to my earlier post for a short list of a number of interesting military operations within the specified time frame.

Edited May 15, 2024 by AEthelraedUnraed

[Marcio]

On 5/15/2024 at 7:18 AM, BlackSix said:

We've not yet started work on the career mode, but the map potentially allows us to show the period from June to October 1941 and from April to August 1944.

It would really be great to contemplate the two periods mentioned.
We would see birds like the IL-4, the DB-3 and the Do-17 in the period from June to October 1941 and others like the Yak-3, the La-7 and the Tu-2 in the period from April to August 1944 , as well as tanks like the IS-2!!!
If we can already take advantage of the new engine's algorithms, even better!!!

[A-E-Hartmann]

Excellent News 🤟🏻

[ForceToast]

I can hardly wait. There’s a lot of scope for a lot of interesting gameplay. Nice to hear that Galati will be there on the map. But its a bit of a stretch to go as far as Constanta and the bridge at Cernavoda which were bombed or the oil fields of Ploiesti. Maybe we’ll get an early Blenheim, or an R-2 tank. Maybe there’ll be a P-2 bomber and T-26 tanks on the other side. Maybe a mission to sink the Moskova, stop the landing craft and paratroopers sent by the Russians behind enemy lines, bombing missions in Heinkels by the Romanians…

Really great update, I can’t wait..

Edited May 18, 2024 by ForceToast

[FliegerAD]

Was the Pe-3 operational on this map? I know it is unlikely to come, but one can hope...

[[CPT]milopugdog]

On 5/15/2024 at 5:18 AM, BlackSix said:

We've not yet started work on the career mode, but the map potentially allows us to show the period from June to October 1941 and from April to August 1944.

I would imagine that a timeframe so big would be a massive effort when it comes to tracking units. Would you say it's realistic that we might see the career mode stretch for that whole duration? How would picking a career on the Odessa map work in terms of moving to another 'campaign' (Stalingrad, Kuban, Normandy) if the player wanted to?

[sevenless]

26 minutes ago, [CPT]milopugdog said:

I would imagine that a timeframe so big would be a massive effort when it comes to tracking units. Would you say it's realistic that we might see the career mode stretch for that whole duration? How would picking a career on the Odessa map work in terms of moving to another 'campaign' (Stalingrad, Kuban, Normandy) if the player wanted to?

 

Well, you pick Odessa 06/41-10/41, then switch to Moscow 10/41-03/42, then to Stalingrad 08/42-02/43, then to Kuban 04/43-10/43 and then to Odessa 04/44-08/44. Seems pretty straight forward to me. There is only the gap 10/44-05/45 to be filled, but I guess that will never happen in GB.

[[CPT]milopugdog]

18 minutes ago, sevenless said:

 

Well, you pick Odessa 06/41-10/41, then switch to Moscow 10/41-03/42, then to Stalingrad 08/42-02/43, then to Kuban 04/43-10/43 and then to Odessa 04/44-08/44. Seems pretty straight forward to me. There is only the gap 10/44-05/45 to be filled, but I guess that will never happen in GB.

Ah. I misread the original post as a continuous time frame (1941-1944) instead of an early and late time frame (1941 AND 1944) to act as end caps for the different Eastern Front campaigns.  In that case, I really hope they add some more early Soviet aircraft. IMHO the 1941 planeset is the most lacking in terms of what was actually there. The Moscow aircraft added some good variety into the Stalingrad set, but it doesn't quite work in reverse unfortunately.