VPForce Rhino DIY Kit for sale - AGAIN RHINO in a day!

[SRF_kaltokri]

12 hours ago, Varibraun said:

@SRF_kaltokri How would you describe the difference in feel between the RhinoMFG and the RhinoTPR?  I am currently using a TPR that I like a little better than my old MFGs, but am wondering which direction you would recommend with Rhino FFB added?  Thank you!

 

Personally I like my MFG more then the TPR. But that is independent from FFB.

 

The RhinoMFG kit is really easy to mount.

 

The RhinoTPR Motor-Inside-Version kit needs more time, tools and craftsmanship to install.

It is absolutly doable. I installed it three times on TPRs.

The RhinoTPR Motor-Outside-Version kit (not available yet) will be way easier to install on TPR then the RhinoTPR Motor-Inside-Version kit.
But the RhinoTPR Motor-Inside-Version kit looks way better in my opinion.

 

[Panzerlang]

What amount of force are we talking for the TPR? They're made of metal but I suspect the main pedal arms are made of zamac (pot metal) ...will they stand up to it over time I wonder.

[SRF_kaltokri]

17 minutes ago, Panzerlang said:

What amount of force are we talking for the TPR? They're made of metal but I suspect the main pedal arms are made of zamac (pot metal) ...will they stand up to it over time I wonder.

As I stated above I can not measure the force. The data sheet values are in my post above.

The swing arm of the TPR will be replaced by a printed one. It is printed in PETG with 10 Walls and 5mm bottom and top layers.
I find the part itself is very solid.

 

I have not carried out a long-term durability study. This is a Do-It-Yourself project and not a professional product!
My kit is just to give people without a 3D printer the opportunity to enjoy FFB. Everyone can find, print and apply FlyDocs TigerTPR Mod without my kit.

The swing arm was designed by FlyDoc. There are already a few people who have used his mod and so far I have not heard of any problems.
Since I converted my friend's TPR, you are welcome to ask again in 5 years how our experiences with durability were.

Edited December 9, 2024 by SRF_kaltokri

[dgiatr]

19 hours ago, Varibraun said:

@SRF_kaltokri How would you describe the difference in feel between the RhinoMFG and the RhinoTPR?  I am currently using a TPR that I like a little better than my old MFGs, but am wondering which direction you would recommend with Rhino FFB added?  Thank you!

Hi Varibraun ,

 

I have recently made the diy rhino ffb conversion to my MFG rudder pedals. It works just fine with all the previously known effects from Rhino base ffb stick,  Rhino configurator and telemffb work just fine too .

 

I would like, to be honest a little stronger motor or the current one motor to be accompanied with a cooling fan as there such of them in the rhino base ffb stick version , I don't know if both of them , the one or the other solution is possible to be made though. For a sustained dogfight situation if you want to feel more spring force effects under your feet or when plane reaches high speed values and want to feel some more stifness you have to dial up motor power and/or spring force effect settings resulting in some motor heating. Motor is protected in this case as a precaution measure cutting some of its power to cool down.

I finally found a solution to this and kept the initial spring that MFG used to work with, using less tension on it in combination with diy ffb rhino modification. I am very happy that way.

 

As I see TPR has a larger rhino motor but I cannot tell about the corresponding power levels that TPR needs to work in comparison to MFG.

 

 

 

Edited December 9, 2024 by dgiatr

[Varibraun]

7 hours ago, SRF_kaltokri said:

Personally I like my MFG more then the TPR. But that is independent from FFB.

 

The RhinoMFG kit is really easy to mount.

 

The RhinoTPR Motor-Inside-Version kit needs more time, tools and craftsmanship to install.

It is absolutly doable. I installed it three times on TPRs.

The RhinoTPR Motor-Outside-Version kit (not available yet) will be way easier to install on TPR then the RhinoTPR Motor-Inside-Version kit.
But the RhinoTPR Motor-Inside-Version kit looks way better in my opinion.

 

50 minutes ago, dgiatr said:

I have recently made the diy rhino ffb conversion to my MFG rudder pedals. It works just fine with all the previously known effects from Rhino base ffb stick,  Rhino configurator and telemffb work just fine too .

 

I would like, to be honest a little stronger motor

 

49 minutes ago, dgiatr said:

As I see TPR has a larger rhino motor but I cannot tell about the corresponding power levels that TPR needs to work in comparison to MFG.

 

Thank you both for your insights, I did think that perhaps the larger motor for the TPR might be my deciding factor on which way to go all other things being equal.  In that regard, I wondered if not having your full foot resting on the TPR vs. the MFG might create a little less continuous stress on the motor?  However, that might also reduce the FFB effect when using the rudder?

 

Bottom line, I think I will await the completion of TPR Outside-Version kit before deciding between these 3 options.  I have definitely decided to stay in the Rhino software ecosystem for simplicity and tuning since I have the Rhino base.  @SRF_kaltokri - I really appreciate you giving us options! 

[dgiatr]

3 hours ago, Varibraun said:

 

 

 

Thank you both for your insights, I did think that perhaps the larger motor for the TPR might be my deciding factor on which way to go all other things being equal. 

You should check carefully what is the leverage-motor power of TPR modification kit in comparison to MFG modification kit for the same pedal movement , I mean that since those two rudder pedals have completely different construction and the motors are placed to completely different places I don't think it's completely safe to simply consider that the stronger motor has definetely the larger thermal margins..

Edited December 9, 2024 by dgiatr

[Varibraun]

32 minutes ago, dgiatr said:

You should check carefully what is the leverage-motor power of TPR modification kit in comparison to MFG modification kit for the same pedal movement , I mean that since those two rudder pedals have completely different construction and the motors are placed to completely different places I don't think it's completely safe to simply consider that the stronger motor has definetely the larger thermal margins..

 

@SRF_kaltokri - Do you have any thoughts on this based on your preliminary experience with the TPR and the larger motor?

[SRF_kaltokri]

On 12/9/2024 at 7:01 PM, Varibraun said:

 

@SRF_kaltokri - Do you have any thoughts on this based on your preliminary experience with the TPR and the larger motor?

 

The TPRs with the larger motor have noticeably more strength. Unfortunately, I cannot measure this.
Nevertheless, I like my RhinoMFG more. This is probably due to the linear movement. I personally like that more than the pendulum motion.

[Dagwoodyt]

3 hours ago, SRF_kaltokri said:

The TPRs with the larger motor have noticeably more strength. Unfortunately, I cannot measure this.

I am more interested in whether throttling from heat buildup is an issue in prolonged dogfights with constant rudder inputs such as experienced in WW1 aircraft.

[SRF_kaltokri]

52 minutes ago, Dagwoodyt said:

I am more interested in whether throttling from heat buildup is an issue in prolonged dogfights with constant rudder inputs such as experienced in WW1 aircraft.

 

Unfortunately, I can't help you with that. I fly most of the time jets.
When I fly ww2 planes I use my RhinoMFG.

[SRF_kaltokri]

See below the first test for a Motor-Outside-Version of the RhinoTPR DIY kit.
An enclosure for the Rhino Mainboard is already designed in FreeCAD and the 3D printer is busy building it at the moment.

[SRF_kaltokri]

Here is a picture of the newly available RhinoTPR DIY Motor-Outside kit.
This kit is for all people who want to MOD their Thrustmaster TPR with Rhino FFB without the need to drill holes in their brand new TPR.
And here the link to FAQ-RhinoTPR-Outside-DIY-Kit

[SRF_kaltokri]

Next projects are building a Rhino DIY kit for Virpil VPC Rotor TCS Collective and Virpil VPC ACE Flight Pedals.

 

[SRF_kaltokri]

Since the VirpilACE I ordered for the prototype still hasn't been shipped, I've started to adapt the design that Number481 did for the VirpilACE pedals to the MFG.
If it all works out, it will be a kit to connect the powerful 86 Rhino motor to the MFG for force feedback.
I'm still waiting for belts with the (hopefully) correct length and adapted aluminum profiles. But the first attempt looks promising.

 

 

[SRF_kaltokri]

I've ordered WinWing Orion pedals now to create a kit for them.
Unfortunately I'm still waiting for the delivery of the VirpilACE.

[Varibraun]

On 12/26/2024 at 6:53 AM, SRF_kaltokri said:

Here is a picture of the newly available RhinoTPR DIY Motor-Outside kit.
This kit is for all people who want to MOD their Thrustmaster TPR with Rhino FFB without the need to drill holes in their brand new TPR.

 

Thank you Kaltokri, I am going to give this a try before the tariff fun begins - sending you a PM now.

[SRF_kaltokri]

The kit to convert the Crosswind MFG pedals to the VPForce Rhino 86BLF03 motor is now available from me for 199 € (excluding shipping costs, motor kit and MFG).
The 86BLF03 motor is more powerful than the 57BLF03 motor used in the "RhinoMFG by Hiob".
I currently have two kits in stock, after that the delivery time depends on the delivery time of the required parts and this can vary greatly.
Questions and/or orders are welcome via PN to me.

 

 

[SRF_kaltokri]

The RhinoACE ForceFeedBack Do-It-Yourself conversion kit is ready.
It will cost 199€ plus shipping.
I have to order some parts for it and the delivery may take up to 3 or 4 weeks.
Everyone who wants this beauty should send me a PN, so I can order the right amount of material.
 

[SRF_kaltokri]

Next kit will be for WinWing Orion. And after that Virpil R1 is planned.

[SRF_kaltokri]

 

My current stock:
Rhino Joystick DIY kit for 57BLF03 motor. / 1 in stock. More to come. / 349.- €
RhinoMFG DIY conversion kit for 57BLF03 motor. / 1 in stock. / 139.- €
RhinoMFG86 DIY conversion kit for 86BLF03 motor. / 1 in stock. More to come. / 199.- €
RhinoTPR Inside DIY conversion kit for 86BLF04 motor. / 1 in stock. / 159.- €
RhinoTPR Outside DIY conversion kit for 86BLF04 motor. / 1 in stock. / 179.- €
RhinoACE DIY conversion kit for 86BLF03 motor. / 2 will be in stock witihn 2 -3 busines days. / 199.- €
RhinoOrion DIY conversion kit for 86BLF03 motor. Under construction. / ??? €
RhinoR1-Falcon DIY conversion kit for 86BLF03 motor. Planned. / ??? €

 

Edited April 21 by SRF_kaltokri

[SRF_kaltokri]

The new conversion kit to convert WinWing Orion pedals with a Rhino motor to Force Feedback is now ready.

You can order it from me for 159.- € (plus shipping costs). The pedals and the motor are not included!

More information here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSqg5z7IwCEvO7kp_7aN6nuZ5UhiMT_u1BInB1sxV7iZH9Nfqi1VOfpibHZyeEb1vdAsGP9yn6JOIgE/pub

Questions or orders via PN to me.

 

[SRF_kaltokri]

I got a shipping confirmation for the Virpil R1 pedals. 🤩
Stay tuned for the DIY conversion kit for Virpil R1 pedals.

[SRF_kaltokri]

All kits are in stock and can be shipped within 2-3 business days after payment is received.
Contact me if you have any questions.

Edited June 9 by SRF_kaltokri

[SRF_kaltokri]

My VirpilR1s have finally arrived.
The kit creation has begun.

 

Edited June 12 by SRF_kaltokri

[SRF_kaltokri]

The new conversion kit to convert Virpil R1 pedals with a Rhino 86BLF03 motor to Force Feedback is now ready.
You can order it from me for 199.- € (plus shipping costs). The pedals and the motor are not included!
More information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQ3tvgD31EIt7kQSD8KvgcYBugTITHakSkwtBqtsFm1ZlgKGq5Sn_bbNeiE9Y8kPxN2uBw1eQzItccT/pub
Questions or orders via PM to me.

 

[SRF_kaltokri]

I do a summer sale of Rhino Joystick DIY kit (standard version for 57BLF03 motors). Price is now 299 instead of 349 €.
This sale is limited till end of august. One kit is in stock. More can be put together if required.

[Blindspot]

Hello, 

 

I have been looking all over various forums and figured this might be an appropriate place to ask. 

 

All of this talk of FFB Rudder Pedals - how are you all getting rudder telemetry from IL-2? The VPForce Rhino Manual says that DCS, IL2, nor MSFS output any telemetry information for the rudder. So is force feedback on all of these rudder pedals solely for effects (vibration/ground shaking/etc)? 

 

I have a DirectX FFB Rudder pedal set and am hoping to get it working with IL2. 

 

Cheers

[Cynic_Al]

On 8/19/2025 at 1:55 PM, Blindspot said:

All of this talk of FFB Rudder Pedals - how are you all getting rudder telemetry from IL-2? The VPForce Rhino Manual says that DCS, IL2, nor MSFS output any telemetry information for the rudder. So is force feedback on all of these rudder pedals solely for effects (vibration/ground shaking/etc)? 

 

I suggest you read from here, where eventually I manage to elicit as good an answer as can be expected.