Would another module actually make sense (before the new one)? There might be almost enough content planned.

[Avimimus]

Hear me out.

 

A Ta-152 is planned (along with an early war I-153 by a third party)

 

There is also a chance of:

Ju-87D-5

Yak-3

La-7

Maybe a Fw-190A9?

 

That represents five or six aircraft. If they do two more Collector Planes, they have a module.

We also have two new maps coming out from third parties (both can do 1944), and there is some talk that they will actually have dynamic campaigns as well.

 

So, what is missing? A few ground objects (e.g. a German destroyer)?

 

So they could probably bundle everything planned into a 1944 module if they added a couple more variants (e.g. P-39Q) or partnered with a third party to produce something a bit more exotic (e.g. Fi-156).

[jeanba]

What is missing ?

Maps 

[R7-S276]

… just missing all the aerial battles theaters and planes of WW2 from 1939 to 1942 in Europe, Mediterranean, African, Middle East, Asia and Pacific areas and a lot of nations as faction in the menu… to give an idea of what I am talking about this is an example of almost all the modules I had with Il-2 1946 from a third party, and I really hope to see the same one day for Il-2 Great Battles ?

Edited March 7, 2024 by R7-S276

[sevenless]

2 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Hear me out.

 

A Ta-152 is planned (along with an early war I-153 by a third party)

 

There is also a chance of:

Ju-87D-5

Yak-3

La-7

Maybe a Fw-190A9?

 

That represents five or six aircraft. If they do two more Collector Planes, they have a module.

We also have two new maps coming out from third parties (both can do 1944), and there is some talk that they will actually have dynamic campaigns as well.

 

So, what is missing? A few ground objects (e.g. a German destroyer)?

 

So they could probably bundle everything planned into a 1944 module if they added a couple more variants (e.g. P-39Q) or partnered with a third party to produce something a bit more exotic (e.g. Fi-156).

 

Maps take years to finish, not to speak of the career mode. Focussing on the collector planes alone frees up a lot of ressources. Investing in a dead horse makes no sense anyways. You milk it until its over (within the next 3-5 years).

[FliegerAD]

The aircraft are apparently not the biggest problem, but the map is. Don't get me wrong, I would love to fly an Il-10 over Silesia but it unlikely to happen.

 

I am just a bit torn if I would want to fly the Il-10 over the Rhineland or Kuban... (same with the La-7 and so on).

 

 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

Thing is, so far all modules have been coherent packages. Meaning aircraft, a map and a campaign. The aircraft you mention are all late-war (except the I-153 being the odd one out). Except for the Ju-87 D-5, I don't think any of the aircraft flew on either of the two maps currently in development (Karelia and Odessa). Maybe the Yak-3?

 

Anyhow, the planeset seems decent for a 1945 Eastern Front module, but unless we get something like a Silesia/Pomerania map, there's no way to make a module out of it. And I don't think we'll see any more official maps

[jeanba]

5 hours ago, FliegerAD said:

The aircraft are apparently not the biggest problem, but the map is. Don't get me wrong, I would love to fly an Il-10 over Silesia but it unlikely to happen.

 

I am just a bit torn if I would want to fly the Il-10 over the Rhineland or Kuban... (same with the La-7 and so on).

Right

We have some middle-late war" soviet aircraft (Yak-9T, La-5FN ...), but historically, their presence on the maps we have is anecdotical

[Juri_JS]

16 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Except for the Ju-87 D-5, I don't think any of the aircraft flew on either of the two maps currently in development (Karelia and Odessa). Maybe the Yak-3?

As far as I can tell from my research, no Yak-3s flew in the Karelia and Odessa area.

What's mostly missing for these two maps are late P-39s and the 1944 version of the Il-2 with swept-back wings.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

35 minutes ago, Juri_JS said:

As far as I can tell from my research, no Yak-3s flew in the Karelia and Odessa area.

What's mostly missing for these two maps are late P-39s and the 1944 version of the Il-2 with swept-back wings.

Would be nice to have those!

 

Although if collector planes were going to be made for the new maps, I'd prefer them to go early war. Besides the already announced Chaika, I'd love to see an early Yak, early LaGG, Fiat G.50, DB-3 or SB, Blenheim (can also be used for early-war ops on the Rheinland and Normandy maps), and of course the wonderfully anachronistic TB-3.

 

Edit: forgot about the D.XXI. As a Dutchman, I gotta have a D.XXI

Edited March 7, 2024 by AEthelraedUnraed

[Sandmarken]

What i woud like is a collector Brewster Buffalo to go with the Karelia map ?

[CountZero]

we are getting thouse airplanes that fit late war map because they give up on any DLCs , so now its just to keep this game going untill new one gets up to full speed.

 

I expect in few months we gona be over Korea, and here its gona be for ww2 fans to spend money they dont spend on Korea on superduper ww2 fighters, that are probably least reasorce haevy for them to do...

 

map campaigns SP stuff even bombers is to mutch waisted time for not big return it seams

 

so no another modul for this game makes no sence when they are focused on new game

[Avimimus]

Ah, so - the answer is 'no'. Thanks. Also, yes, La-7 and Il-10 are too late, and Yak-3 too apparently. So it would require a new map. Makes sense.

 

I do wonder if there is some potential to do an upgrade pack for existing modules though? Maybe put together a DLC pack with one new aircraft for each existing module?

 

I do think it'd sell better to combine a number of aircraft with different characteristics (e.g. Ta-152 late war, high performance; P-39Q helps finish mid-war plane sets; Pe-3, provides Russia with a heavy fighter for the early war; Fi-156, adds a completely new STOLL artillery spotting experience).

 

It'd force people who want one to also try the others. I do worry sometimes that doing things only as Collector Planes leads people to stay within their preconceptions of what a 'fun' aircraft is.

[[CPT]Crunch]

Could call it The Battle for Relevance.

[EAF19_Marsh]

6 hours ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

Could call it The Battle for Relevance.

Battle For Investment.

 

Maps:

- Smolensk

- Kiev

- Seelow Heights

 

Get comms actually working in a proactive manner, be transparent, open crowd-funding or some sort of early access and generally develop in a manner that might generate revenue.

 

The aircraft can concurrently evolve. But I doubt that the terrain and aircraft independently would work.

[jollyjack]

We must not complain about new stuff coming out just yet. Seems new things appear as fast as for the last years. New maps and planes would be nice however.

Personally i'd rather see some Mediterranean stuff including a waterplane or two.

And torpedoes added for some planes; LizLemon's mod for that was great until some update screwed it up.

Edited March 10, 2024 by jollyjack

[Lusekofte]

On 3/7/2024 at 4:19 PM, CountZero said:

we are getting thouse airplanes that fit late war map because they give up on any DLCs , so now its just to keep this game going untill new one gets up to full speed.

 

I expect in few months we gona be over Korea, and here its gona be for ww2 fans to spend money they dont spend on Korea on superduper ww2 fighters, that are probably least reasorce haevy for them to do...

 

map campaigns SP stuff even bombers is to mutch waisted time for not big return it seams

 

so no another modul for this game makes no sence when they are focused on new game

This is why I won’t spend another cent on it until they are back on ww2 track. 

[R7-S276]

still missing a Germany map included Berlin… and from my point of view, if the developers stop il2 Great Battles for a new games they should let 3rd party to freely developed maps and airplanes mods, in the spirit of il2 1946…

[AEthelraedUnraed]

10 hours ago, R7-S276 said:

and from my point of view, if the developers stop il2 Great Battles for a new games they should let 3rd party to freely developed maps and airplanes mods, in the spirit of il2 1946…

Ehm, that's a strange thing to say. 3rd parties are already freely developing maps and airplanes, as we speak.

 

Regarding maps, we've got a Karelia and an Odessa map incoming, both of which will be free AFAIK.

Regarding aircraft, the IAR-80 which just got released is by a 3rd party, and apparently a different 3rd party is building an I-153 "Chaika".

 

If your underlying question is why we don't see more 3rd party products than is currently the case, that's because both maps and aircraft are way, way more complicated than those of IL2 1946. The amount of effort it takes to develop something that's of a sufficient quality is immense.

[sevenless]

Take what you get and be happy with it. You dont know what the future holds.

[Jaegermeister]

That ^^^

[KodiakJac]

And we need the B-25 as a collector plane for the western front maps!  It is the most iconic, beautiful medium bomber of WWII.