help with 4070 super in VR

[HazMatt]

I recently upgraded my 1080ti to a 4070 super. I used the driver uninstall software and got the new drivers from the manufacturer website and installed them.

The framerates are now lower in VR then they were with my 1080ti with the default settings.

They GPU usage does not go over 50% and the cpu usage is the same as it was with my 1080ti (about 30%)

It appears to be working properly in other games, however I don't have any other vr games that are as graphic intensive as IL2.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Edited March 1, 2024 by HazMatt

[JMax]

Super frustrating I am sure. Are you using a Quest 3?

[chiliwili69]

12 hours ago, HazMatt said:

my 1080ti to a 4070 super.

The CPU% usage it telling to you nothing. It is a meaningless number regarding IL-2. (IL-2 is mainly singlethreaded)

Looking at the specs the only thing the 1080Ti is better is the memory bus, but memory bandwidth is almosyt the same.

 

 

https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-4070

 

I am using Quest link with a 3080 and 7800X3D with the Quest3 running at 72Hz and performance is quite good.

 

What are your specs?

How you tried to run fpsVR? or the IL-2 benchmark before and after you changed GPU?

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

The core utilization of CPU is more informative. Aggregated information about cpu utilization is not - it's average from all cores.  If the GPU has low utilization it means that CPU is bottlenecking GPU. To draw a frame both need to synchronize in time, so one is waiting for other to finish. Best to know which is bottlenecking is looking for separated frame times in  game thread and draw thread vs GPU thread time.

 

 

Edited March 2, 2024 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[HazMatt]

23 hours ago, jimmycooper said:

Super frustrating I am sure. Are you using a Quest 3?

Quest 2

[HazMatt]

17 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

The CPU% usage it telling to you nothing. It is a meaningless number regarding IL-2. (IL-2 is mainly singlethreaded)

Looking at the specs the only thing the 1080Ti is better is the memory bus, but memory bandwidth is almosyt the same.

 

 

https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-4070

 

I am using Quest link with a 3080 and 7800X3D with the Quest3 running at 72Hz and performance is quite good.

 

What are your specs?

How you tried to run fpsVR? or the IL-2 benchmark before and after you changed GPU?

 

17 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

The CPU% usage it telling to you nothing. It is a meaningless number regarding IL-2. (IL-2 is mainly singlethreaded)

Looking at the specs the only thing the 1080Ti is better is the memory bus, but memory bandwidth is almosyt the same.

 

 

https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-4070

 

I am using Quest link with a 3080 and 7800X3D with the Quest3 running at 72Hz and performance is quite good.

 

What are your specs?

How you tried to run fpsVR? or the IL-2 benchmark before and after you changed GPU?

I'm not sure as to what your point is. Of course I didn't expect it to be 10 times faster but I didn't expect it to be slower either.

 

My specs are 12100 with 32g of ddr 4. Not sure how this relates to the new card being slower then the old one.

 

I didn't run any benchmarks as my performance was acceptable with the 1080ti. I'm not sure how running benchmarks with the new card will help to tell me why it's slower unless I'm missing something.

16 hours ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

The core utilization of CPU is more informative. Aggregated information about cpu utilization is not - it's average from all cores.  If the GPU has low utilization it means that CPU is bottlenecking GPU. To draw a frame both need to synchronize in time, so one is waiting for other to finish. Best to know which is bottlenecking is looking for separated frame times in  game thread and draw thread vs GPU thread time.

 

 

How would the cpu make a newer/faster card run slower then an older/slower card? I must be missing something.

Edited March 3, 2024 by HazMatt

[Panzerlang]

userbenchmark.com, it's pretty good at telling you if/what bits are bottle-necking your system.

I'm sure I watched a couple of reviews from very knowledgeable YT testers that said the 4070 was a rather pants card.

[HazMatt]

38 minutes ago, Hetzer-JG52 said:

userbenchmark.com, it's pretty good at telling you if/what bits are bottle-necking your system.

I'm sure I watched a couple of reviews from very knowledgeable YT testers that said the 4070 was a rather pants card.

 

 

Uh, using userbenchmark.com that you listed it shows the 4070S benchmarks 112% faster then the 1080ti.

So how is is the 1080ti faster in the same system in IL2?

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4070-S-Super/3918vs4154

 

That makes it a "rather pants card"? I really don't follow the "logic here"

[jollyjack]

I now have a 4080 super, and no VR. Everything seems fine with IL2 sofar.

But i found problems with DCS. on the NVIDIA site there is already a newer driver than at Gigabyte Aorus (my brand). A friend's 4080 FE runs fine however.

 

IMO there might be some new tricks involved with a super type that affect some games only. Read some advice about tweaking the Control panel, as i did for my 4080S. Read on DCS that a graphics bug to do with pulsating propellers is on it's way.

 

for the 4070 super this is the latest driver, feb 22nd, v 551.61, the same for a 4080S it seems.

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/221745/en-us/

Edited March 3, 2024 by jollyjack

[Panzerlang]

3 hours ago, HazMatt said:

 

 

Uh, using userbenchmark.com that you listed it shows the 4070S benchmarks 112% faster then the 1080ti.

So how is is the 1080ti faster in the same system in IL2?

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4070-S-Super/3918vs4154

 

That makes it a "rather pants card"? I really don't follow the "logic here"

I dunno, it's a vague memory.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

9 hours ago, HazMatt said:

How would the cpu make a newer/faster card run slower then an older/slower card? I must be missing something

I don't know from where your question come from.

[chiliwili69]

18 hours ago, HazMatt said:

I'm not sure as to what your point is. Of course I didn't expect it to be 10 times faster but I didn't expect it to be slower either.

Here I was only trying to find an explanation of why you obtain lower performance in VR with the same system, but just changing only the GPU.

And I saw that the memory bus is 352 bits in the 1080Ti whereas the 4070 has only 192 bits. The bigger the memory bus the more information it can be transfered at a clock cycle between the VRAM of the GPU and the cores of the GPU.

But there are other factors to consider like bus frequency, VRAM design, etc.

 

 

18 hours ago, HazMatt said:

My specs are 12100 with 32g of ddr 4. Not sure how this relates to the new card being slower then the old one

 

You are right here. Most likely you were bottlenecked by the CPU (i3-12100) when playing in VR with both GPUs in certain dense scenarios. I just wanted to know more about your system.

Edited March 3, 2024 by chiliwili69

[chiliwili69]

18 hours ago, HazMatt said:

I didn't run any benchmarks as my performance was acceptable with the 1080ti. I'm not sure how running benchmarks with the new card will help to tell me why it's slower unless I'm missing something.

 

There are many public benchmarks which they just detect if you CPU, RAM, GPU, etc is obtaining the performance they should. Everytime you acquire a new hardware it is always good to test them just to verify that there is nothing wrong (in software or hardware) with the new hardware.

 

If I were you I would execute the free passmark test (https://www.passmark.com/products/performancetest/index.php) with the old configuration (1080Ti) and with the new (4070S) and will anotate the results for CPU, RAM, GPU, etc and compare them with thousands of tests done by others.

 

By doing that ou might detect that there could be something worng with the new 4070S.

 

So, if everything is fine with that test you can then run the IL-2 test in monitor and in VR for both cards. This will allow you to measure the real performance with IL-2.

The IL-2 bench is this one: 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/66924-syn_vander-benchmark-v6-to-measure-il-2-performance-in-monitor-vr/

 

[HazMatt]

Thanks for the help. I will give this stuff a shot as soon as I get some free time.

[HazMatt]

On 3/3/2024 at 9:47 PM, HazMatt said:

Thanks for the help. I will give this stuff a shot as soon as I get some free time.

 

 

I ran the userbenchmark test to see how my system compared to others.

 

Results:

CPU Intel Core i3-12100F: Outstanding

GPU Nvidia RTX 4070-S (Super): Outstanding

Memory G Skill Intl F4-3600C18-16GVK: Outstanding

SSD Samsung 860 Evo: Incomplete (dunno why it didn't complete but it shouldn't be affecting my overall FPS)

HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12: Average

 

So it appears my system is working fine, however I still have the problem...

Edited March 5, 2024 by HazMatt

[HazMatt]

Could it be a setting in Steam VR?

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

6 hours ago, HazMatt said:

Could it be a setting in Steam VR?

I mean your cpu is very weak for VR. I would recommend upgrading to and i7 or i9 with water cooling. Your gpu is good.

 

You're gonna have to just post all of your game, Oculus Link and Debug Tool, and Nvidia control panel settings. You should also IMO be using open composite to bypass SteamVR/OpenVR and use OpenXR. 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

7 hours ago, HazMatt said:

Could it be a setting in Steam VR?

You could add super sampling over super sapling. For example use steam SS and VD or oculus or XR toolkit on top of each other. This would results with tremendous bad performance in the game.

[HazMatt]

6 hours ago, =DW=_Drewm3i-VR said:

I mean your cpu is very weak for VR. I would recommend upgrading to and i7 or i9 with water cooling. Your gpu is good.

 

You're gonna have to just post all of your game, Oculus Link and Debug Tool, and Nvidia control panel settings. You should also IMO be using open composite to bypass SteamVR/OpenVR and use OpenXR. 

My CPU ran VR fine with the 1080ti. The issue came up when I put in the 4070S. The framerate is half what it was with the 1080ti. Not sure how that would be caused by the CPU. The 12100 benches higher then the 10700(released 2020) according to userbenchmarks.com.

 

It doesn't make sense to me that I would need a CPU that was more powerful then any CPU that was available when the game came out to run the game that was released in 2013. (my 12100 shows more then 50% faster then the fastest CPU you could buy in 2013)

 

I was hoping that somebody might be able to give me the settings I should have for Oculus Link etc. I can post that stuff but it won't be until later when I have access to my gaming computer.

 

I'll look into OpenXR. I'm not familiar with this.

 

 

6 hours ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

You could add super sampling over super sapling. For example use steam SS and VD or oculus or XR toolkit on top of each other. This would results with tremendous bad performance in the game.

I think you might be on to something here. I recall seeing a setting in the NVIDIA control panel that said something about super sampling and I think I saw it set to 1.5 in my Oculus tray tool. I'm not sure where to check the settings in those other ones but I will try to find it later when I can.

Edited March 5, 2024 by HazMatt

[Aapje]

The 12100 is very unlikely to be the issue. It has solid single core performance, but just 4 cores. But that should be fine for the current version of IL-2. People here just have an obsession with i7's and i9's

 

I would switch to OpenComposite anyway. It's better and may solve your issue.

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

6 hours ago, HazMatt said:

My CPU ran VR fine with the 1080ti. The issue came up when I put in the 4070S. The framerate is half what it was with the 1080ti. Not sure how that would be caused by the CPU. The 12100 benches higher then the 10700(released 2020) according to userbenchmarks.com.

 

It doesn't make sense to me that I would need a CPU that was more powerful then any CPU that was available when the game came out to run the game that was released in 2013. (my 12100 shows more then 50% faster then the fastest CPU you could buy in 2013)

 

I was hoping that somebody might be able to give me the settings I should have for Oculus Link etc. I can post that stuff but it won't be until later when I have access to my gaming computer.

 

I'll look into OpenXR. I'm not familiar with this.

 

 

I think you might be on to something here. I recall seeing a setting in the NVIDIA control panel that said something about super sampling and I think I saw it set to 1.5 in my Oculus tray tool. I'm not sure where to check the settings in those other ones but I will try to find it later when I can.

I hate to say it, but I think you should do a clean install of Windows. At very minimum, use DDU and deleter your drivers and update them, in addition to using CCleaner to clean the registry.

 

Also, when the game was made, there was no VR and the requirements haven't been updated in literally years. They are essentially meaningless at this point. To truly run IL-2 at 90 hz at full resolution and max fidelity, you need the latest i9/X3D chip and a 4090. You will still have some stuttering and time dilation depending on the number of AI units. There is simply no cpu/gpu/hmd combo yet that is perfect and IL-2 performance keeps getting worse over time as they push the engine further and further.

 

I'm going to release a tutorial video on how to setup the Quest 3 in the next few days. It is the hardest headset to get dialed in that I've ever used, although I'm finding it to be spectacular with my Blade 18 i9-13950 HX/4090 laptop (equivalent to 3090 TI/4070 TI desktop). Yes I have to run 72 hz and turn down some IL-2 settings, but it's pretty fantastic to be honest.

 

3 hours ago, Aapje said:

The 12100 is very unlikely to be the issue. It has solid single core performance, but just 4 cores. But that should be fine for the current version of IL-2. People here just have an obsession with i7's and i9's

 

I would switch to OpenComposite anyway. It's better and may solve your issue.

 

It absolutely is AN issue. It will cause stuttering/time dilation in VR in single player as it is not going to be able to keep up with that gpu in terms of frame times. Is it THE issue? Probably not. Just look at these benchmarks and you will see how big of a difference the cpu can make:

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJmnz_nVxI6_dG_UYNCCpZVK2-f8NBy-y1gia77Hu_k/edit#gid=1266758920

 

The jump from 12th gen to 13th gen Intel in the IL-2 benchmark was 25% or more in most cases.

Edited March 6, 2024 by =DW=_Drewm3i-VR

[HazMatt]

34 minutes ago, =DW=_Drewm3i-VR said:

I hate to say it, but I think you should do a clean install of Windows. At very minimum, use DDU and deleter your drivers and update them, in addition to using CCleaner to clean the registry.

 

Also, when the game was made, there was no VR and the requirements haven't been updated in literally years. They are essentially meaningless at this point. To truly run IL-2 at 90 hz at full resolution and max fidelity, you need the latest i9/X3D chip and a 4090. You will still have some stuttering and time dilation depending on the number of AI units. There is simply no cpu/gpu/hmd combo yet that is perfect and IL-2 performance keeps getting worse over time as they push the engine further and further.

 

I'm going to release a tutorial video on how to setup the Quest 3 in the next few days. It is the hardest headset to get dialed in that I've ever used, although I'm finding it to be spectacular with my Blade 18 i9-13950 HX/4090 laptop (equivalent to 3090 TI/4070 TI desktop). Yes I have to run 72 hz and turn down some IL-2 settings, but it's pretty fantastic to be honest.

 

 

It absolutely is AN issue. It will cause stuttering/time dilation in VR in single player as it is not going to be able to keep up with that gpu in terms of frame times. Is it THE issue? Probably not. Just look at these benchmarks and you will see how big of a difference the cpu can make:

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJmnz_nVxI6_dG_UYNCCpZVK2-f8NBy-y1gia77Hu_k/edit#gid=1266758920

 

The jump from 12th gen to 13th gen Intel in the IL-2 benchmark was 25% or more in most cases.

I did use DDU and the Eusing reg cleaner. I'll have to get CCleaner.

 

How would an I9 help if IL2 is single threaded? My 12100 benches 10% faster then a 5800X3D single core.

 

"I don't understand how my 12100 and 4070S are not enough" when my performance was fine with my 12100 and 1080ti at default settings....

 

Upgrading from a 1080ti to a 4070S should have improved or kept my performance the same at a minimum right? OK. So there lies the problem... My performance went down... So it might be an issue with my card? My card benchmarks fine...

 

I rarely play single player and the little that I did are the quick missions of 4x4 for example and I've haven't had any problems with that.

 

The bottom line for me is that if my 4070S is going to be slower then my 1080ti then I will return it. There is no reason it should be slower in IL2 when it runs fine in the benchmark tests.

 

I don't have time to mess with reinstalling windows right now but I will check out opencomposite.

 

Speaking of reinstalling windows. Has anybody got Il2 to work on Linux without it being overly painful and time consuming?

Edited March 6, 2024 by HazMatt

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

26 minutes ago, HazMatt said:

I did use DDU and the Eusing reg cleaner. I'll have to get CCleaner.

 

How would an I9 help if IL2 is single threaded? My 12100 benches 10% faster then a 5800X3D single core.

 

"I don't understand how my 12100 and 4070S are not enough" when my performance was fine with my 12100 and 1080ti at default settings....

 

Upgrading from a 1080ti to a 4070S should have improved or kept my performance the same at a minimum right? OK. So there lies the problem... My performance went down... So it might be an issue with my card? My card benchmarks fine...

 

I rarely play single player and the little that I did are the quick missions of 4x4 for example and I've haven't had any problems with that.

 

The bottom line for me is that if my 4070S is going to be slower then my 1080ti then I will return it. There is no reason it should be slower in IL2 when it runs fine in the benchmark tests.

 

I don't have time to mess with reinstalling windows right now but I will check out opencomposite.

 

Speaking of reinstalling windows. Has anybody got Il2 to work on Linux without it being overly painful and time consuming?

Okay, so thanks for providing more info it helps us help you. The 4070 S is in no way worse than the 1080 TI, VR or otherwise. You should be seeing a massive improvement actually. If you're playing multiplayer, then the cpu is likely not the issue. 

 

Hang tight and I'll see if I can get the guide up today or tomorrow. The Quest 3 is a nightmare to setup properly, but I assure you, it's very good once dialed in.

[HazMatt]

3 minutes ago, =DW=_Drewm3i-VR said:

Okay, so thanks for providing more info it helps us help you. The 4070 S is in no way worse than the 1080 TI, VR or otherwise. You should be seeing a massive improvement actually. If you're playing multiplayer, then the cpu is likely not the issue. 

 

Hang tight and I'll see if I can get the guide up today or tomorrow. The Quest 3 is a nightmare to setup properly, but I assure you, it's very good once dialed in.

Thanks. What video card are you using for the quest 3? One of the reasons I got the 4070S was because I was thinking about getting a quest3 but seeing how it's running in vr with my quest 2 it doesn't look like I'm going to.

 

In cause you missed it previously. I ran the Userbenchmark tests and here were my results:

CPU Intel Core i3-12100F: Outstanding

GPU Nvidia RTX 4070-S (Super): Outstanding

Memory G Skill Intl F4-3600C18-16GVK: Outstanding

SSD Samsung 860 Evo: Incomplete (dunno why it didn't complete but it shouldn't be affecting my overall FPS)

HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12: Average

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

2 minutes ago, HazMatt said:

Thanks. What video card are you using for the quest 3? One of the reasons I got the 4070S was because I was thinking about getting a quest3 but seeing how it's running in vr with my quest 2 it doesn't look like I'm going to.

 

In cause you missed it previously. I ran the Userbenchmark tests and here were my results:

CPU Intel Core i3-12100F: Outstanding

GPU Nvidia RTX 4070-S (Super): Outstanding

Memory G Skill Intl F4-3600C18-16GVK: Outstanding

SSD Samsung 860 Evo: Incomplete (dunno why it didn't complete but it shouldn't be affecting my overall FPS)

HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12: Average

I'm running an Razer Blade 18 laptop with an i9-13950HX and RTX 4090 laptop gpu, which is roughly equivalent to a 4070 TI/3090 TI desktop GPU.

 

You should run the 3D Mark Orange Room VR benchmark with both cards and test in the meantime: https://www.3dmark.com/search?_ga=2.235983880.827202682.1709687553-1745403920.1709687553#advanced?test=vrpor DE&cpuId=&gpuId=1127&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

[HazMatt]

Here's my results for 3D Mark Orange Room VR benchmark.

 

13 732 IN VRMark Orange Room (V1.0) Better than 92% of all results

Average frame rate

299.36 FPS

Target frame rate

109.00 FPS

 

Tried open composite but it crashed when I tried to use it. Still trying to figure out what's up with it.

Edited March 6, 2024 by HazMatt

[jollyjack]

Just read this:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/536622/driver-bug-4070-super-and-any-gpu-post-53758/

 

Edited March 6, 2024 by jollyjack

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

51 minutes ago, HazMatt said:

Here's my results for 3D Mark Orange Room VR benchmark.

 

13 732 IN VRMark Orange Room (V1.0) Better than 92% of all results

Average frame rate

299.36 FPS

Target frame rate

109.00 FPS

 

Tried open composite but it crashed when I tried to use it. Still trying to figure out what's up with it.

You need to set XR as default in oculus app. (You should also see notification to do it in top bar in oculus app).

I assume that you replaced dll in il2 directory (per game installation)

Edited March 6, 2024 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[chiliwili69]

7 hours ago, =DW=_Drewm3i-VR said:

3D Mark Orange Room VR benchmark

I think the Blue Room should be more suitable to the current resolution used today (including the supersampling).

Both (orange and Blue) uses DX11, the same than IL-2.

 

 

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

40 minutes ago, chiliwili69 said:

I think the Blue Room should be more suitable to the current resolution used today (including the supersampling).

Both (orange and Blue) uses DX11, the same than IL-2.

 

 

Orange is free, that's why I suggested it.

1 hour ago, HazMatt said:

Here's my results for 3D Mark Orange Room VR benchmark.

 

13 732 IN VRMark Orange Room (V1.0) Better than 92% of all results

Average frame rate

299.36 FPS

Target frame rate

109.00 FPS

 

Tried open composite but it crashed when I tried to use it. Still trying to figure out what's up with it.

That's a solid result. I think your system is working fine. It's most likely setting and/or driver related. My best result was this:

 

 

 

My old 3080/5800X3D pc got about what you posted in this benchmark. So I would say just sit tight and see if it can be ironed out.

Edited March 6, 2024 by =DW=_Drewm3i-VR

[HazMatt]

I just tested my other system which is the same other then a cheaper motherboard with my 1080ti and got this as a result.

13847 Better than 92% of all result

Average frame rate 301.87 FPS

 

This seems odd that my 1080ti is benching higher...

2 hours ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

You need to set XR as default in oculus app. (You should also see notification to do it in top bar in oculus app).

I assume that you replaced dll in il2 directory (per game installation)

 

I didn't change anything in the oculus or have it open. I thought this was a replacement.

I saw something about a dll download but I didn't pay attention to where it ended up.

[DD_Crash]

10 hours ago, =DW=_Drewm3i-VR said:

 

Hang tight and I'll see if I can get the guide up today or tomorrow. The Quest 3 is a nightmare to setup properly, but I assure you, it's very good once dialed in.

Thanks, I am going to need this.

[chiliwili69]

9 hours ago, HazMatt said:

Average frame rate 301.87 FPS

 

You obtain almost same results with the Orange test for both cards, this would suggest that the real bottleneck is the CPU or RAM or BUS...

So, I don´t think they are telling you too much.

Have you tried the IL-2 benchs for monitor and VR?

[HazMatt]

Can you give me a link for those? I'm not familiar with them.

[Voxman]

Item #3 in this post:

 

 

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

3 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

You obtain almost same results with the Orange test for both cards, this would suggest that the real bottleneck is the CPU or RAM or BUS...

So, I don´t think they are telling you too much.

Have you tried the IL-2 benchs for monitor and VR?

Ah, I missed that he got the same result with the same two cards. The result itself wasn't too bad.

[HazMatt]

And now for another wrinkle. I did the straight up 3d mark test, non vr. Here are the results for both systems. These are not at all the same as the VR test.

 

This test shows the 4070S to be twice as fast. That's where it should be. I think the issue has something to do with the VR setting on the 4070 computer as the cpus are the same and I'm using the same quest 2 and cable on both.

 

overall score: 9247

1080ti: 10077

12100: 6307

 

overall score:: 15649

4070S: 20968

12100: 6310

10 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

You obtain almost same results with the Orange test for both cards, this would suggest that the real bottleneck is the CPU or RAM or BUS...

So, I don´t think they are telling you too much.

Have you tried the IL-2 benchs for monitor and VR?

I'm not sure it's the CPU RAM or BUS. (see non VR test results above)

 

I think there's something else going on.

Edited March 7, 2024 by HazMatt

[DBCOOPER011]

1 hour ago, HazMatt said:

And now for another wrinkle. I did the straight up 3d mark test, non vr. Here are the results for both systems. These are not at all the same as the VR test.

 

This test shows the 4070S to be twice as fast. That's where it should be. I think the issue has something to do with the VR setting on the 4070 computer as the cpus are the same and I'm using the same quest 2 and cable on both.

 

overall score: 9247

1080ti: 10077

12100: 6307

 

overall score:: 15649

4070S: 20968

12100: 6310

I'm not sure it's the CPU RAM or BUS. (see non VR test results above)

 

I think there's something else going on.

 

Is vsync off in the nvidia control panel for IL2? cant think of anything else why your being limited with the 4070S..

Edited March 7, 2024 by DBCOOPER011

[jollyjack]

with my 4080 super i had it off, but now it's 3d application, seems running OK, by i dont have VR, only Track sensor v2 ..

[giftgruen]

I own no Quest 2 - instead using a Quest pro, but maybe my experiences might help nevertheless.

 

First: Do you use cable solution or WLAN ?

 

If WLAN connected: Use Virtual Desktop App ( Quest Store ) and not the native Quest Tools.

Way easier to configure imho - and therefore better to find the "sweet spot" for your configuration.

Also use a dedicated router. 

 

In general, your hardware config should be at least good enough to drive a Quest2 to have an acceptable game eperience.