EAF19_Marsh Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 17 hours ago, Duckman said: Yes, Reschke's victim did crash but after a conventional dogfight where he gained the upper hand and sat on the Tempest's tail. Is his story. And that is statistically irrelevant. It was also seconds after a Tempest shot down a different -152. Conclusions drawn on the above don’t even begin to approach ‘limited’. Pilot experience > tactical position / surprise > relative performance (usually to within c.15%). Otherwise no 262s would have been lost to opposing fighters.
Sobilak Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 There is one important thing that gave the Allied pilots an advantage at the end of the war. AntiG pants. According to the data, the Ta152 was great, but the pilot of a P-51 or P-47 could hold a higher G for longer, which gave a huge advantage in combat. It was the same in Korea War, where MiG15 pilots did not have them and could not use the full maneuvering capabilities of their aircraft's.
MiGCap Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 16 hours ago, Sobilak said: There is one important thing that gave the Allied pilots an advantage at the end of the war. AntiG pants. According to the data, the Ta152 was great, but the pilot of a P-51 or P-47 could hold a higher G for longer, which gave a huge advantage in combat. It was the same in Korea War, where MiG15 pilots did not have them and could not use the full maneuvering capabilities of their aircraft's. Don't overestimate the anti-G pants. They just can enhance the natural tolerance only for one G. Another G You can win with the M1 maneuvre by straining the muscles at the stomach and the legs to keep Your blood from going to the lower extremities. Much depends on Your personal G tolerance. I am lucky to have a short upper body and long legs so that the way from my heart to my head is short. For an magazine article about the former centrifuge used by the German Air Force, they put me to 10 G without the anti-G pants connected. I didn't passed out, but my feet were blue from the blood afterwards. Now with the Eurofighter AEA (Aircrew Equipment Assembly, which consists not only of anti-G pants but also included a vest and pressure breathing), I found it more easy to withstand the NATO standard of 9 G for 15 seconds than the 7 G for 15 seconds with only the old anti-G pants. Refreshed it just in December. And I am 64 years old – the average combat pilot in WWII was a little bit younger ... The Russians early in the Cold War 1.0 started to choose their pilots accordingly to their G tolerance. They were guys who looked a little bit square in appearance which is the (theoretical) ideal body form for high-G environment. Not too tall, muscles and a short way from heart to head. 6 4 4
FliegerAD Posted March 15, 2024 Posted March 15, 2024 I'd argue that G tolerance in ww2 fighter combat is a bit overrated anyway. Most a2a combat was basically bouncing an unsuspecting target from behind. On 3/8/2024 at 9:46 AM, Heinzbaby said: The VVS need more love, it only has the 1943 La5FN Totally agree with you, even if I want the Pe-3 most. Btw., La-5FN in 1943 just rocks. Fly it against its historical opposition, i.e. something like the G-6... that is power fantasy fulfilled. 1 3
Rei_Ayanami Posted March 15, 2024 Posted March 15, 2024 I hope this plane will get some representation in career mode.
EAF19_Marsh Posted March 17, 2024 Posted March 17, 2024 On 3/15/2024 at 6:35 PM, Rei_Ayanami said: I hope this plane will get some representation in career mode. Am sure it will be a cracker: you won't get to fly it and instead sent to the Eastern Front to drive a Stug. If you're lucky. (Yes, I made that joke a few pages back but if it ain't broke don't fix it). 1
EAF19_Marsh Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 8 hours ago, 335th_GRAlbatros74 said: Hi, what is the g limit for ta152? When the wings break.
Crious Posted March 19, 2024 Posted March 19, 2024 4 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said: When the wings break. And the g tolerance is? 5,6,7,8,9? What was the number associated with the flight's envelope of the aircraft?
MAJ_stug41 Posted March 19, 2024 Posted March 19, 2024 Like all wwii fighters, it is higher than what would break the pilot, so there isnt any reason to worry about it. I believe it is mentioned in here - https://youtu.be/hSdYtF2uR3U?si=I1vF77Sb-gSJ0Xp1
1CGS LukeFF Posted March 21, 2024 Author 1CGS Posted March 21, 2024 Guys, enough of the off-topic comments already.
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