AI does nothing in attack missions.

[Flying_Anchor]

In some mission types like frontline support, column attack, bridge bombing AI does literally nothing regardless of weapons (bombs, rockets, guns), aircraft types, enemy fighters presence. On my screenshot you could see just a typical picture of AAR: you do the job, your wing only drops a bomb or two and keep flying in circles. It was mixed P40/P39 wing, and we've been flying around the target for sufficient time. Not a single freaking strafe attack, only 2 dropped bombs and 1 truck destroyed.
If you'd like to repeat this experience, just go Stalingrad IL-2 career and look how your whole dammit wing return home with 95% full bomb and rockets load.

 

[Flying_Anchor]

Same thing: a wing of fully loaded P-47, been attacking an enemy airfield for a long time. I've spent 3400 bullets, 2 bombs and 6 rockets, destroyed 23 objects. As you can see on a screenshots, my wing did nothing. The order was "attack ground targets". After I've got empty, we flew home with bots not spent their load.

[Flying_Anchor]

I've been gazing at the enemy airfield with my wingmen ordered F1-F2-F6. And suddenly i've got torn apart by 3 FW-190, approached from my 6. What's the matter? All my men kept silence and did nothing! Didnt warn me, didnt try to protect. Just brain-dead following me. What the dammit order should I give to force wingmen DO SOMETHING USEFUL?

 

[Flying_Anchor]

Again, airfield attack, P47s did nothing, you can see only targets destroyed by me. But covering wing of Tempests worked well.

[RedeyeStorm]

Well the AI is not very flexible. You wan’t a good experience do not give orders to AI. When on ground attack they will attack and keep attacking until mission complete. If you give an order then all your AI’s will target one single target. When it get’s destroyed thee other planes abort. And you have to give the order again for the next target. Rinse and repeat.
 

when on ground attack mission they will ignore air targets. In previous iterations they ditched bombs and engaged every plane you came across. Which ment your wingman only had guns left when arriving on target. Personally this is better.

 

When you want them to engage ground targets give engage nearest air target. That has given me the best results. The command patrol for air/ground targets is not very effective in my experience.

 

The AI is what it is and you have to adept to it. It won’t adept to your style.

[Flying_Anchor]

8 часов назад, RedeyeStorm сказал:

The AI is what it is and you have to adept to it. It won’t adept to your style.

AQMG, no orders were given, no results. AI just chilling and not attacking.

[RedeyeStorm]

I only fly career missions. Never had that issue.

[Flying_Anchor]

Только что, RedeyeStorm сказал:

I only fly career missions. Never had that issue.

If it is not hard for you, could you send an AAR in case of an ground support/airfield attack mission?

[Flying_Anchor]

46 минут назад, RedeyeStorm сказал:

I only fly career missions. Never had that issue.

NVM, did it by myself. It really works if you dont give any orders. I've seen strafe runs, bomb drops and rocket launches by my wingmen. And you really cannot get that result using "attack ground targets" or "do like me" orders.

[Yogiflight]

13 hours ago, RedeyeStorm said:

when on ground attack mission they will ignore air targets. In previous iterations they ditched bombs and engaged every plane you came across. Which ment your wingman only had guns left when arriving on target. Personally this is better.

Funny thing, when flying the Bf 110 E2, AI will keep their bombs as they should, but they will immediately engage enemy fighters. This behaviour clearly beats your AIs behaviour?

Friendly AI is so bloody annoying, I am every day about to throw my PC out of the window. But then I remember, it is not my PCs bad.

[RedeyeStorm]

19 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

Funny thing, when flying the Bf 110 E2, AI will keep their bombs as they should, but they will immediately engage enemy fighters. This behaviour clearly beats your AIs behaviour?

Friendly AI is so bloody annoying, I am every day about to throw my PC out of the window. But then I remember, it is not my PCs bad.

There is no doubt that the AI could use a lot more AI. My frustration subsided by playing DCS that is even worse in my opinion ?.

 

Watch the AI and try to stay around them and the experience isn’t to bad. Do your own thing and you quickly end up 6 to 1.

 

[LukeFF]

Guys, as always, you need to add track and/or mission files to these reports, as that is what the team needs to see what may be the issue.

[Flying_Anchor]

48 минут назад, LukeFF сказал:

Guys, as always, you need to add track and/or mission files to these reports, as that is what the team needs to see what may be the issue.

You know, you can also try it by yourself, its not a rare career mission bug which could appear in very specific circumstances. Just start AQMG and try to command bots to do something, it will be even faster. Take my generic mission file, you'll see no bugs there, because its about the way AI behaviour is programmed.

 

_gen.zip

I have same experience during Stalingrad career, IL-2s flying around and being getting shot like turkeys, not responding to my orders to attack.

[LukeFF]

20 hours ago, Flying_Anchor said:

You know, you can also try it by yourself, its not a rare career mission bug which could appear in very specific circumstances. Just start AQMG and try to command bots to do something, it will be even faster. Take my generic mission file, you'll see no bugs there, because its about the way AI behaviour is programmed.

 

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I have same experience during Stalingrad career, IL-2s flying around and being getting shot like turkeys, not responding to my orders to attack.

 

Yes, I could, but I am also very busy most days with other things. That's why I always ask people to provide files showing what the problem is. That, and saying "the AI does nothing" is frankly not very helpful and the team isn't going spend time chasing down perceived issues with the AI if they aren't given a method to reproduce the issue.

[Flying_Anchor]

3 часа назад, LukeFF сказал:

Yes, I could, but I am also very busy most days with other things.

Didnt know you're also a tester. 
I made 3 flights, IL-2 Stalingrad career. That's my report: 
1 flight: didnt touch command buttons, my buds destroyed 2 Pz IV and did a good job.
2 and 3 flights: ordered "attack nearest ground target". As you could see  in tracks, they didnt spend even one rocket to make a hit and I cannot see at least 1 target destroyed by them in AAR.

3 track files with missions _gen files: https://disk.yandex.ru/d/IWyL9TLgM23eqA

My AARs:

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[LukeFF]

Thank you, I will pass this along. ?