Even after adjusting pitch/trim - plane still dives

[Duff_Phlaps]

So it seems that quite a few planes seem to want to nose down, even if I do 100% trim or -100% trim.  I know some planes have stabilizer trim...other's elevator trim, but no matter what, these planes will just dive toward the ground.  The joystick is perfectly calibrated as well.  I thought someone at one point mentioned that it can be impossible to trim a plane that is full of fuel.  However, it seems that when I played online and choose 40% fuel, the gauge still reads full.  I don't have this issue in DCS...what am I missing?

[Charon]

I've never seen this. Which planes? And can you confirmed that the trim is actually changing with tech-chat, or by watching the control itself?

[Duff_Phlaps]

FW-190 does it.  I can adjust the stabilizer to 100% or -100% and it still dives.  Flaps are retracted, gear is up.  I don't get it.

And yes, I can see the tech chat (stuff on the right side of the screen?) and I can see the trim switch move as well. 

[AndyJWest]

At a guess, you have two different controllers assigned to the elevator.

[Duff_Phlaps]

Thanks, I'll check that tonight and report back.

[Duff_Phlaps]

So, I had Elevator trim axis setup as (joy1_b5_b7).  I also had  assigned Elevator trim switch up (joy1_b7) and Elevator trim switch: down (joy1_b5).  This setup has never given me issues with any other planes that I can recall.  Anyway, I did try clearing out the Elevator axis setup (joy1_b5_b7) to test and it made no difference.  I can definitely see with each trim up/down that the switch on the left console of the cockpit moves along with each key press.  The tech chat shows the change, I can see the control surfaces move with the trim.  My flaps do look to be up and I think there are 3 settings for flaps?  Flaps released, flaps takeoff, and flaps retracted.  Not sure why I'm still struggling.  If I don't touch the joystick, and I don't see any movement with the in-game stick...my joystick is calibrated perfectly and has no drive. I don't get why I have this issue.  Anything else it could be?  Could it be the amount of fuel or weapons I'm carrying?  I'm sure that can matter, but I wouldn't think to this degree.  Also worth mentioning, adjusting the trim to 100% or -100% does make a different in the game, but even trimming in the opposite direction, the plane will still dive.

[Duff_Phlaps]

I think I found where the problem is...now I just need help fixing it.  It does appear that the in-game yoke is pushed slightly forward.  The joystick is calibrated, although I did calibrate it again to be safe.  Where I believe the issue is, is where I have the pitch setup for my joystick.  There's a setting to change "Input responses: plane control: pitch".  I feel this is wrong.  Is it?  If so, what do I need to do to fix?

Ahhhh...I had to change the neutral point.  That fixed it!  Thanks for the help!

[No_85_Gramps]

Set the dead zone center to 0, and the neutral point to 0. You can adjust the dead zone center later if you feel you need to.