Hittting targets with plane guns to no effect since game 5.201b?

[jollyjack]

Now since a week been FC plane testing, but lots of planes seem unable to 'kill' anything anymore.

Like a Nieport28 with vickers; shooting at a balloon for 10 minutes, no effect but small dust spots when hitting it continuously.

Same with ground targets and other planes.

That Hanriot seemed not much better. Seems that was a lot easier in the good old days. Opinions?

Edited January 22, 2024 by jollyjack

[=IRFC=Gascan]

I have had no problem shooting down planes and strafing targets on the FlugPark and Knights of the Sky. Been a week or two since I went for a balloon, but I've knocked out machine guns and flak, and bombed A7V tanks with cooper bombs (well, I missed a bunch, but my wingman nailed them pretty good). I know that trucks and such vehicles are not likely to blow up from strafing, although they will be destroyed and the crew will abandon them if you shoot them up.

[jollyjack]

Well, thanks, i must be doing something wrong. Maybe in my settings ... you have no mods regarding targeting and bullet behavior?

PS i only done SP missions and campaigns so far.

 

I have no mods. and tested this default NieuportC28 mission from the missions GTP file over and over again,

shooting at balloons, and ground targets with the vickers standard guns. To no effect .... Nieuport28_default mission.zip

Just checked, balloons are 'vulnerable' but the daimlerdr-4 winch vehicle was not.

Edited January 23, 2024 by jollyjack

[JGr2/J5_Klugermann]

22 hours ago, jollyjack said:

Now since a week been FC plane testing, but lots of planes seem unable to 'kill' anything anymore.

Like a Nieport28 with vickers; shooting at a balloon for 10 minutes, no effect but small dust spots when hitting it continuously.

Same with ground targets and other planes.

That Hanriot seemed not much better. Seems that was a lot easier in the good old days. Opinions?

 

Pilot kills seem fairly easy so just imagine they're human.

[jollyjack]

Done some additional balloon tests with a specially Arras FC3 created mission.

Se5a: No balloon kills at all:  Se5a Balloon testing.zip

Track: https://www.mediafire.com/file/hjs4yf5gyyt3sys/Se5a_Balloon_ARRAS_test.zip/file

 

Testing with a Hurricane OK: hurricane balloon testing.zip

Track: https://www.mediafire.com/file/2zg1oqlp61v6vsu/Hurricane_balloon_ARRAS_test.zip/file

 

Testing with a Spad13 with balloon gun also to no effect:

Track https://www.mediafire.com/file/jp199582ixvs6qx/Spad13_testing_balloon_gun.zip/file

 

So i now guess somethings wrong with (maybe all) Flying Circus planes and gun shooting since 5.201b ?

 

 

ADDED: With "Realistic Weapons Dispersion Mod" installed BINGO !

Track: https://www.mediafire.com/file/8xqzitw3trm4fal/Nieport28_testing_with_mod.zip/file

Edited January 24, 2024 by jollyjack

[=IRFC=Gascan]

I popped a balloon last night with a Fokker D7F on the Wingwalkers WW1 server last night with a single pass. I strafed more machine guns nearby without issue. On the Ad Astra server I strafed machine guns at the front in an FE2b and got shot down by a player in an Albatros D2. I also witnessed several other fights while doing a recon mission, and although it can be hard to judge from a distance, they seemed to do damage and cause shootdowns like normal in SPAD 7 150's, Nieuport 17's, Alb D2's and Halberstadt D2's. In a quick mission, I shot down a number of AI Albatros D2 and DVa in a Nieuport 17.

IIRC, previous testing has shown that balloon guns don't really do any extra damage to balloons in the game, and may actually require a few more hits to destroy a balloon than the regular .303's.

I don't know what to say, man. It seems to be working for me, and I don't know why it wouldn't work for you.

[jollyjack]

Yep, even tried a fresh install .... maybe i am just bad at shooting with anything 'flying' in FC. Or that my guardiuan angel won't let me play with destructive games.

[No.23_Starling]

4 hours ago, jollyjack said:

Yep, even tried a fresh install .... maybe i am just bad at shooting with anything 'flying' in FC. Or that my guardiuan angel won't let me play with destructive games.

The balloon guns are broken currently and the bug has been lodged. They do they same damage to balloons as normal 303s which mean you have to hit was pretty much every round in the N28 to kill one. Just take the standard guns but expect to fire a fair few rounds 

[jollyjack]

Ah, thanks bro, you saved at least my day ...-